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Can I leave the Daily Paul in your hands?

If I had to go away and do some other things. Can I trust you to be a grownup now? Can I trust the passengers of the ark not to attack one another?

I think of the Daily Paul as the watering hole in an arid desert. All the animals come around to drink - the lions and other animals of prey, as well as the zebras, and deer or whatever. They don't attack each other - not at the watering hole. It is one thing that they all have in common. They all have thirst.

At the Daily Paul, we all have thirst. The thirst is good natured, and well intentioned. Those are the kinds of people that I like to see, and that is why it hurts so much when that is taken advantage of. But that seems to be the way of our hypercompetitive world. Aim for the weak spot, and then plunge.

But it doesn't have to be that way.

If anyone is going to change it, it has to be me. I am the captain of this ark, and the ark is as real as can be.

This is a real feeling, expressed as best as possible in a Hollywood movie. It is a real feeling. I've felt it. But in this day and age of snark, how does one express it without getting snickered at?


We're all thirsty. We're thirsty for something that we barely even know exists. It has been so far submerged by popular culture that it is nearly dead, so fully twisted and distorted by consumerism that we barely know its true meaning, if at all.

It is love. That is why I put a flashing banner at the top of the website, repeating it. There is joy in repetition.




A heart of peace. A heart of gold. A heart of love. Strive for that.

Even if you simply strive for it, I know that I can leave the site in your hands, while I go do what I need to do.

Can you remember the Message? Can you be it before you preach it?

Can I leave the Daily Paul in your hands?

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There are gaters at watering holes. So, it's not us who come to drink who maybe the problem its more likely with those who troll or hide under the water's surface, i.e. SP.

The night is far spent, the day is at hand.
And those who have not heard shall understand.

A little off topic but related..

Have you read Daemon and Freedom by Daniel Surez? I don't want to give too much away but there is a social media type ranking system used to develop policy. The story is pretty good aside from that. Be sure to read them in order.



"If Tyranny and Oppression come to this land, it will be in the guise of fighting a foreign enemy." -- James Madison



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Hi Michael, I don't know what's going to happen to the DP - I

hope it stays the same, but I do think the move back out West will be wonderful for you and Samantha personally. I hope you check in often and let us know how it's going!


Private property works; communism, not so much.

This site has grown and prospered as the private property of one owner, Michael Nystrom. As property owner, he has made the rules by which visitors to his property must abide. He has delegated some of his authority to moderators of his own choosing, but retained ultimate control and responsibility himself.

This is as it should be. This is why the site has become a sanctuary and a gathering place for people who love liberty. Personal responsibility and private property are the core values of liberty, and are the principles on which this site was built.

There is no "we" who can be trusted to run the site in Michael's absence. Some of us will behave well, and some of us may not -- and that is a problem, because without the property owner's ultimate power to ban malicious and abusive users (and abusive moderators), there will be no more personal responsibility, no more bad consequences to bad conduct. That's not anarchy -- that's communism.

If Michael doesn't want to run the site any more, he should sell it: it needs an owner who loves it enough to care for it. There ARE enough people who love the site that this should be a profitable business, for the right owner.

Recommended reading: The Most Dangerous Superstition by Larken Rose

Question should be:

Question should be: In whose hands can I leave the Daily Paul?

Of course, all our actions do contribute to the outcome, regardless of ownership, and the more responsibility each of us takes in liberty, the more we can direct ourselves with love.

Final thought (for now) on

Final thought (for now) on the matter... This site's URL could simply be redirected to a Sub-Reddit thread called Daily Paul (UPDATE: ...which I now see someone has already done) so all costs, administrative duties and site maintenance issues could be offloaded to Reddit. No more headaches for Mike and the site is effectively maintained.


only if

You hit me up if your anywhere near Portland OR in your travels :)
I hope you keep us updated, I know I will miss your thought provoking posts!

Michael, what we learn from each other here..

...we take it to the streets, the towns, the cities, the counties, where we live. The Truth, The Love, The Peace, and yes, The Gold, innumerable, impenetrable, undeniable, and forever speakable, will ripple throughout the universe like the sound of trumpets. Let not the first word be troubled, for it reverberates, nay, resounds beyond the stars! FAITH, FREEDOM, and LOVE are Eternal! (So are commas and exclamation points, by the way :)!

I understand your worry, but do not the pyramids of Egypt still stand? If you were to let go, would Truth defer? I think not!

The bones, the flesh are temporary, but Spirit lives forever! Would I, at my last dying day, have not tried, and lay bare before my family with nothing to say but "I told you so" and left this earthly plane with nothing more than that, shame.

You have done well, Good and Faithful Servant.

I read this other post, a parent's dilemma w/vaccine laws

...noting the different responses. My first thought was, where else but the Daily Paul would these parents feel comfortable posting their dilemma?

But there have been many such posts here at the DP - whether involving a personal crisis or "just" some question or thought someone has thrown out there hoping to get some community input.

Anyway, I thought to say something about it on this thread, but really, you already did. Thank you, Michael. And long live the Daily Paul!

When we try to pick out anything by itself, we find it hitched to everything else in the Universe.
~ John Muir

Steve Jobs quote from mid 90s, perhaps it relates:

I'm an optimist in the sense that I believe humans are noble and honorable, and some of them are really smart. I have a very optimistic view of individuals. As individuals, people are inherently good. I have a somewhat more pessimistic view of people in groups. And I remain extremely concerned when I see what's happening in our country, which is in many ways the luckiest place in the world. We don't seem to be excited about making our country a better place for our kids. [...] I love things that level hierarchy, that bring the individual up to the same level as an organization, or a small group up to the same level as a large group with much greater resources. And the Web and the Internet do that. It's a very profound thing, and a very good thing.

- Steve Jobs

If I had to guess, I would think the Daily Paul mostly likely would continue as it has, perhaps some dormant accounts would suddenly become active again and intentionally try to cause problems? But otherwise, business as usual. It would seem the way your question will only be answered is to test it out.

'open source' the site?

Delete the database and logos and package it up for download. Let anyone who wants a similar site to do their own thing.

You really have done an amazing job and I appreciate all you have done. Enjoy your life!

The Bitcoin blockchain model?

The Bitcoin blockchain model? That is an interesting idea.

Here's an extension of that concept... Every poster here could have their DP account connected to a series of credits. Every post made could incur a cost. Posts that receive up votes would receive credits, whereas downvoted posts would add up negatively and their initial block of "free" credits would diminish and they would be required to pay to continue to post.

Call it the "freemium" model, which takes inspiration from in-app purchases found in smartphone apps for extra features. This would allow the site to self-regulate and fund at the same time.


I like the concept

This is a great concept because it illustrates the problems with open forums in that 'free speech' really isn't free when people can troll or be paid to troll and waste the time and energy of others. (This is an energy war we are in as everything is energy) There needs to be a way to filter obviously. One problem I see with a blockchain credit system is that the opponents to a free society have deep pockets so money isn't the best way to combat this. I do think work needs to be done along these lines and would be interested in brainstorming. Some modified version of a reputation system needs to be conceived. Perhaps reputation per topic as many people have good ideas when confronted with one topic and foolish ideas with another. A topical and general enlightenment model perhaps vs strict reputation. The battle between creative & truthful ideas vs destructive fallacies. Designing the system could be based on the state one reaches in peaceful, balanced spiritual awakening and enlightenment. The diminution of ego and fear based responses, thoughts and contributions are much more pleasant to evaluate.

Sell the unbranded package?


Free includes debt-free!

Yoda!!..Don't worry the young Luke skywalker can fly the X-Wing!

I really haven't had time to follow all of the finer points of what's going on with this site, but I really think that the crew on the ark are cable of of self government!!


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Do what you need to do...

Everything else will take care of itself.

One of the gigs I worked, I learned a valuable lesson. There is no problem that, if you wait long enough, doesn't resolve itself. Made life a lot easier when I realized that.

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Yes, Michael you can leave the DP

But for how long? We're family!!! It would be very difficult to live without you.

Many here at the Daily Paul

Many here at the Daily Paul are in their, "anarchy," stage and that does not bode well for following rules.

Anarchists don't like rules, and have no respect for the, "law."

Without a Captain, there will be mutiny on the Ark of the Daily Paul.

As always, this is how I feel...


Never be afraid to ask simple questions.

Funny you should call it an

Funny you should call it an "anarchist stage", because I was in a minarchist stage before I became a christian anarchist. I realize now that I liked the idea of freedom, but too much freedom scared me before, which is the mindset of a minarchist.

I disagree

I am never afraid of minarchism or anarchism. I do not fear, that's what being a Christian is about.

I view world anarchy as unattainable until Christs return, and so I work for minarchism. The best part, we all have FAR more power than we think, the system works how it is supposed to, we are just not using it. REAL minarchism IS anarchy. Learn common law, and you will understand what I mean. All of these things we desire, to be outside of the system but still walks among it, THATS minarchy, and at the same time, you exist in yourself, no one making the rules BUT yourself, that's anarchy.

Every founding father was a lawyer, a knower of law. Why do none of us know it? I mean better than attorneys know it(they think they do anyway...) Before the revolutionary war, the kings men were never able to make charges stick on men of the colonies. Everyone was a lawyer!

If we want to win, we must beat them at their own game, a game that is 800 years old. All we have to do is study....

I really do think this is important: Nationallibertyalliance.org

We are getting really close to hitting them hard, the knowledge we are missing is compiled here, I recommend all DP'rs to study it.

I see where you are going

I see where you are going with the anarchism w/common law is minarchism thing. I can appreciate your view on that.

The thing with lawyers, doctors, and a lot of other professions is that it would not be complicated at all without the jargon they use. When you look at any legal document it is written in a foreign language basically. A law degree is a foreign language degree.

I don't expect utopia with humans alone, it will take Christ showing back up.

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Anarchists have rules

but no rulers,I can't believe you are so confused by that term,after all this time of learning.

If we deny truth before your very eyes,then the rest of what we have to say,is of little consequence

Higher Love


Never be afraid to ask simple questions.

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Let me ask

Do you possess a higher amount of love because you claim to not be an anarchist?
Do anarchists have a lesser amount of love,because they believe in no rulers?

If we deny truth before your very eyes,then the rest of what we have to say,is of little consequence

I'm not the One to ask.

I'm not the One to ask.

Never be afraid to ask simple questions.

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You made that claim,so yes you are,you stated a false claim about anarchists,then gave me a video to watch about higher love
sooo,you have something to say,and something is on your mind
I believe in very little man made deals including their repressive laws,I believe in NO rulers
but if you showed up at my home,I'd feed you,protect you as my own,and the kicker,I'd let you sit in my chair :)

If we deny truth before your very eyes,then the rest of what we have to say,is of little consequence