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White people have no home and now your Christianity

We have been hearing this for a while. The Christian religion is now attacked on the land and now you have no home.

This might take me a few posts to address and I have in the past in a harsh way, a sattirical way in that I long for the day, oh white Christians that one day,

one day your religion might not be persecuted in the way mine has, that one day your prayers might be heard in schools and answered and you would no longer face persectution so you could build churches on this land with tall steeples that reach up into the sky and that bibles be placed in every hotel room and in every jail and that you might even have Christian television networks and radio stations, keep your faith and one day this might even become true.

And that was sattire and I meant it to hurt. And more.

Yes and I have heard that you might soon become a minority on this land, THIS VERY LAND and you are afraid of this and wonder "where will white people have a home?"

Well in the midst of this I have some good news. You have a home, oh White people and it's called Europe. An allow me to explain what you might have forgotten.

See your people are white and you come from a place called Europe and it's the only place white people were made. And it's a WHOLE CONTINENT and it's YOURS.

Asian people come from Asia. That's why they look Asian. They got their own WHOLE CONTINENT.

A lot of brown people come from the mid-east. That's where they come from and they got their own subcontinent.

Black people come from Africa. That's where they were made and they got their own WHOLE CONTINENT to dwell upon.

Similarly Americans are red and they come from America. And America is two continents: North and South. There is North America and South America. See, everybody had a place and yours is called EUROPE.

See how that works? We all came from a place and coming from a place is called HOME and that's where yours is. All the way across the Atlantic Ocean. And it seems you are futher confused but I will attempt to explain:

You started out in Europe and then you came here and that is why you are not the only color here. You tried to kill everybody else who was here first (red) but you kinda tired out along the way and didn't kill all of us and that might have been a mistake. But to further complicate things, you stole a bunch of black people and imported them here and that is why there are black people here. See, black people don't come from here any more than you do. You are not INDIGENOUS to here and neither are black people and neither are asians. Everybody but red people did not originally come from here and that is why you all feel lost here. Or why your position is FUNDAMENTALLY INSECURE. And the reason why is to be here you had to beat people to be here or bring them here from someplace else.

Bear with me, I know this is a very different concept to you but it will make sense in a bit. The thing is this: for whatever your reaons, you snuck up on the people here here and started taking stuff because you could. And then because this was such hard work you stole people from Africa and make them do the work. And to do that you had to destroy the identity of these peoples and deprive them of independence and joy because that is how you make a slave of a people: you destroy them and deprive them of the medicines that kept them alive for all time time that existed between when Creator made us until you decided that your plans were more important than Creator's will for the various peoples.

And you are a very singular race for while this process of conquor/enslave is in no way unique to you, you just happened to be better at it and you are to this day.

If this seems improbable or impossible consider this: since you have been here in the Americas, no African nation has come here to make war on you and take it from you. Neither has any asian nation. Neither has no brown people from the mideast done so. Neither did any red people come here to persecute upon you. Never even once. We were already here as red people, we were spared the trouble of padding our canoes across either ocean. What you have done instead is make war and invade EVERY SINGLE OTHER PEOPLE ON EVERY CONTINENT ON THIS PLANET.

But each and every single one of you of white faces came from Europe. And you were very good at it. Better than anybody else.

So allow me to make a few suggestions: when you say "nigger go home" what you ought to do is buy them airplane tickets because you invented airplanes.


Similarly for other peoples you kidnapped. And also if you want to stop the brown people of the mideast from coming here, all you needed to do was stop going to their part of town and stop making war on them. You didn't need to do that but you did. And you do not relent even unto this day.

In a very similar way, you do not need to continue to try to dominate the yellow people of Asia. You could but you do not.

And you could just go home to your ancestral homeland where you truly belong but this seems unthinkable to you and perhaps it is.

See you aren't as good at this as you think you are. You started a genocide here in the Americas but you didn't finish the job. And now I think you wish you would have because we did not give up this land lightly, we tried to fight you with what we had and you didn't kill us all until WE ARE ABLE TO CURSE YOU.

AND now you live on this land under a curse.

What a bummer dudes. Because you gave us an opportunity to see who you really are. And what you are is "pugnacious" in other words you are a militant and war-like people unlike anything this continents, the Americas has ever known. Your power-projection capability is unlike anything the world has ever seen and that has enabled you to make war on ALL THE CONTINENTS ON THIS PLANET AND YOU WON. YOU GOT IT ALL.

For a while but what you have done is engendered hate for you among all people on all continents and not only that, now that you have conquored all for a while it seemed fine but now your warlike attitude needs more people to conquor SO NOW YOU MAKE WAR ON YOURSELVES and we see this in every day life. Your cops now beat up on you because we are no more and a killer needs to kill and a thug needs victims and since us red people aren't really anymore, well, all you got is you now.

THIS WAS ALL PROPHECIED. When you have cut down the last tree and dammed the last salmon, only then will you discover that MONEY CANNOT BE EATEN.

And here you are so many generations later realizing this very thing. But it's taking a very long time as many of you say GOLD IS MONEY, GOLD IS REAL MONEY.

I can tell you it's not but not many of you will believe us. Gold is just yellow metal. You can't eat it either. You cannot drink it unless it's molten and if you do it will kill you because gold melts and becomes liquid at a very higher temperature than your body can withstand: you burn to death quickly at anything over 140 degrees because that's what's required to slow cook a chicken. It doesn't even take that. 120 degrees will kill you if you stay in it longer than just a few hours.

And I can tell you to stop as we have. STOP! YOU CAN'T DO THAT AND LIVE! YOU CAN'T POLLUTE THE LAND AND THE WATERS AND THE AIR AND LIVE but you won't stop. You never have, you are not now and you never will. You are a warrior race unlike any other and when you run out of others to kill you will simply kill yourselves and THAT IS WHAT YOU ARE DOING RIGHT NOW and that is why you have trained your protectors (you call them police) to simply kill with ever increasing ferocity. And that is why one of our latest medicine men, Russel Means said "you are the new indians" because now we watch you kill each other. And you can't stop as much as you try. And almost all of you will die and you will now watch your children go naked and poor and starving before your very eyes.

And now you have destroyed the land's capability to hearl you and you will never ever know how good it was and your children will suffer and you have nobody but yourself to blame but even now you will blame and seek to defeat and you will die. We have seen this in "ribbons on the land" (highways) we saw this in Glass House (united nations which you abhor) and (hosues in the sky) space stations and we have seen what you did to the trees and the sacred animals which you mistreat on such a scale that we cannot even now comprehend. But we have seen that you will go "into the sky" (space travel) and some of you will "survive" but make no mistake:


Just as all people in all colors came from specific parts of this Earth and it defines who we are, as soon as you leave this planet you will no longer be people of this planet. You only come from one place and it was here.

And soon. You will not be from here no matter how much you assert rights to that which you didn't create but you how the power to destroy.

And that is who you are or will be. And soon you will put the finishing touches on what you started and then this will no longer be your home. And maybe you shall find another but you will no longer be human by virtue of the fact that humans came from planet Earth.

See how that works? Well actually it doesn't matter.

It's already done and I personally don't shive a git if you make it.

We are native. We come from here and here we shall die.

Sorry if it sounds harsh but not really. Not even a little. Not even a bit. Not even at all.

Mitakuye Oyasin. This if your fist of my 4 teachings.

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That's some stunning racism there, smudge. Awful.

Now, because I have white skin, I'm 'warlike'. OK. Guess all of the liberty stuff I believe in will have to be tossed aside so I can go make war on 'all the peoples of the world'. Yeah.

Thanks for the heads up.

Oh, and you failed to mention you have a fair portion of 'white' blood yourself, no? So by your argument, you should be pillaging everything right by my side.

"Is life so dear, or peace so sweet, as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it, Almighty God! I know not what course others may take; but as for me, give me liberty or give me death!" - Patrick Henry

It's a mirror and it's prophecy

you know i don't hate you.

So the first part was a mirror and the second part is the curse and this was not my curse. It was issued long ago by a man called Seattle and we see this curse coming upon you and effing up your lives. It's destroying you.

Now here's the question. If the bridge is out and there's abusload of kids headed towards it and nobody sees it but you, what would be the appropriate response? Or let's say I'm on acid and I just THINK the bridge is out, what should I do?

I opt to yell and scream and wave my arms. I'm not even gonna take a chance with a busload of children.

And I said it before and I'll say it again: when I am wrong it's generally very very good news for the rest of you.

Most of those who think so actually don't and most of those who think sew actually rip.

Belated reply

No, I never said you hate 'me'. But your post seems to assert the idea that 'we' (white people) should somehow feel guilty or responsible for wrongs done by people most of us have never even met.

I reject that it is a mirror.

You may think you see a curse coming upon 'us', but I don't even believe there is an 'us', as I simply don't think in the collectivist sense.

Yell and scream all you want. I think you're wrong and wrong-headed on these issues. And it unnecessarily causes division and tension where previously there was none. At least for most of 'us'.

So, here's my question.
Given that you are showing 'us' this 'mirror', does the (I believe you mentioned in a past thread) 9/10 of you that is 'white' feel responsibility? Are you sorry for what 'we' did? Should you apologise? Is mass murder in your blood?

And have you ever pondered why it is that 1/10 of your blood/genes defines what seems to be your identity? I'm 1/3 Irish. Should I be ashamed of my English blood? Or proud of my Irish blood? Angry that 1/2 of me murdered/invaded 1/3 of me? Where does it end? Who cares? It's over. Carpe diem. And don't try to pigeon-hole me. Please.

"Is life so dear, or peace so sweet, as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it, Almighty God! I know not what course others may take; but as for me, give me liberty or give me death!" - Patrick Henry

I usually enjoy your posts...

Not today though. Pretty disappointed actually but I'm glad though I know you're true feelings on race, specifically how it relates to us white devils. Genotyping also shows that we all originated from the same woman. So who did your people steal their land from before us whiteys stole it from your people? You see it is one big smudge pot of DNA we all have which is why seeinh people for skin color makes no sense. We are all the same man, I hope your next vision reveals that truth to you.

Thank you for wishing this on me and in return

I will share with you my last one.

yeah, as much emphasis as we put of visions I don't have all that many of them....the 7 Ceremonies are increasingly brutile and I'm like eh, I don't need to rush visions or put myself through spastic levels of self deprivation....

Anyways, Daytona Beach Florida 1986. I had just emmerged from sweatlodge more intense than anything I was prepared for and then I was administered the pipe by none other than Clyde Bellecourt and by then it was this full moon night and we went to the ocean and man,

it happened. I had all these questions in my heart but the big one was WHAT IS THE FUTURE OF HUMMANITY?


I saw eagles. Dozens and hundreds of eagles, these huge white eagles and the more I looked they went stretching out into a line, past he moon, way way out there, all these huge white eagles and each one of them had a Planet Earth in their talons.

I ahared this vision at the appropriate time with the elders and it has been accepted. We think we know what this means.

Your race will destroy this planet and for all life but your future is literally in the stars. You will transcend this planet and our great concern is for your spiritual health but the significance of all thoser planet Earths we saw, well, that means you are to take the ESSENCE of humanity with you.

And we know a few things besides this:

1. You will cease to be human beings on a fundamental levellas WE knew you.

2. You will take some things with you and you will always long for your trees and blue sky and pure water.

3. The farther you go you will long to come back but from here that is going to take a very, very long time as you count it.

Most of those who think so actually don't and most of those who think sew actually rip.

What bothers me is that

What bothers me is that Western society in the American continent is based on principles coming from the Greeks, Romans, Bible, etc. Greeks and Romans were pretty decadent people and we still glorify them in fraternity names, culture, philosophy.

There is a whole native culture in the Americas that has myriads of positive things to put forward and it is ignored.

Every tribe ...

...and nation, every individual struggles with decadence of many forms, both inwardly and outwardly, varying in intensity with time and locality. That is common to all humanity. In the midst of that struggle within the Greco-Roman and Hebrew cultures, there is still much praiseworthy development of virtues and principles and arts and philosophies and a hunger for truth and living honorably that shouldn't be ignored. As much as I loathe the ways in which non-Love and its consequences have wreaked havoc throughout history, there are still many nuggets of wisdom and truth and shades of goodness to be found in these cultures, as well as our own.

For all its faults, I'm very proud of many aspects of our heritage of Western civilization, just as I am proud of the sage wisdom and respect for the Creation of many indigenous cultures throughout the world. All people have shown recognition of the higher principles, higher laws of Love in various ways, whether or not they have failed to live up to them -- we all have failed to some degree or other in this regard.

But there is hope of moral progress -- just consider how unthinkable the idea was for thousands of years that slavery could or should be done away with. And yet here we are...

Even white girls have visions

I don't generally share them, but for you, dear Smudge, I shall confide in public...
My spirit guide told me the next hurdle to humanity's elevation of consciousness would be for people to learn not to hate white people. Are there hate filled white people? You bet. Are there religious zealot white people? Sure thing. Is it OK to hate white people because of them? Of course not.
The vision was much deeper, maybe some day we can sit around the campfire and I will tell you the rest.
Peace and love, my friend.

Love or fear? Choose again with every breath.

Why can't we unite on principles?

All I know is that we are all humans with a conscience that is constantly in conflict with our pride in ourselves,nationalities,races,religious denominations,politcal parties and other categories we identify with.I think the most destructive force to the human race is something that most people don't even realize exists.It is called pride.Here is the definition I am referring to from dictionary.com


1.a high or inordinate opinion of one's own dignity, importance, merit, or superiority, whether as cherished in the mind or as displayed in bearing, conduct, etc.

Here is an excerpt from a video titled"Conscience vs Pride" linked at the bottom of this post:
"Pride is what makes us reluctant to admit it when we are are wrong as well as cause hatred,jealousy,lust for revenge,lust for money and lust for power.Pride is what makes us unwilling to forgive or show mercy to others.Pride is what makes us think of excuses to try to justify something we know is wrong.Pride might even cause you to dislike this message.LOL

Pride can cause us to dislike people we don't even know who live thousands of miles away.This is because we might feel proud of a certain "group" we think we belong to.This "group "may be one that is based on race,religious denomination,a political party or some other chosen belief system that prevents one from questioning things and seeking truth.Pride has enabled people in positions of power to convince others to willingly commit horrible acts of violence throughout history.

Some people have committed horrible acts of violence because they felt "shamed","dissed" or "disrespected".In other words,someone or something has offended their sense or feeling of pride.Maybe pride is the most destructive force to the human race and many people are not even aware that it exists.

But there is hope for us.Just simply being aware of pride can help us.We all have pride and every soul is a battlefield.One simple victory over pride can help us.Why not apologize to someone you have done wrong?.Why not forgive someone who has done you wrong?What do you have to lose?Your pride."

Regarding Christianity,Christianity and my conscience lead me to the same conclusion which is this:
Treat others as you would like to be treated.Treat others with goodwill,kindness,compassion,forgiveness and mercy.Admit and repent of your mistakes and the wrong things you have done ,said, and thought.Swallow your pride and let your conscience be your guide to truth and to what is right or wrong.That is what being a Christian and following Christ means to me.I would define a Christian as simply someone who makes a conscious effort to follow the teachings and example of Christ because it rings true to their conscience.

To me,it has nothing to do with religious denominations.With all due respect,if you consider yourself a follower of Christ(Christian)I cannot see any good in putting yourself in religious categories such as catholic,protestant,mormon,Jehovah's witness etc.

If you are atheist or follow another religion and reading this,please hear me out.While I can see many wrongs in myself,others,organized religions and political power structures,I honestly cannot see any wrong in Christ and making the effort to follow His example which rings true to my conscience.Even if you don't believe in God,does it not make sense to live by these principles anyway?(See above)Can we at least agree to unite behind and promote those principles,including liberty and non-aggression,whether we believe in God or not?We know our conscience is real,whether we believe in God or not.Conscience being defined as our inner sense of right and wrong,good and evil,better or worse,fair or unfair and just or unjust.The video linked at the bottom of this post addresses this topic.

Here is a suggestion on how to unite behind and promote said principles and maybe make the world a better place:

If we had a large enough amount of people in America and the world united behind our shared principles, and demanded strict adherence to said principles over politics or parties,then the politicians would truly have to represent us or find themselves out of a job and irrelevant.The word "we" is being used to refer to the people here who support the principles of truth,liberty,peace,the golden rule,the non-aggression principle,sound money,ending the drug war and a non-interventionist foreign policy.

We can make progress every single day if we focus on winning hearts and minds. Here is a suggestion on how to do it:

We get one or two great short ads/videos that promote our shared values of truth, freedom, and peace. Just picture a short video explaining why we should bring our troops home, have sound money, cut taxes and spending, balance the budget, end the drug war and give power to the individual while promoting the golden rule,the non-aggression principle and voluntary humanitarian help to our fellow man.

Then we have a money bomb only to DIRECTLY purchase airtime for said ad/video. We vote with our dollars on which video is best.Then we have a "time bomb"(lol) where we all donate our time and focus our efforts spreading the video on facebook, twitter, youtube etc. Keeping it front page on the DP would surely help. Imagine if for a period of time, let's say a month, the front page of Daily Paul was dedicated to an effort to spread a video that promoted all the principles we share. The video could also include a link or mention of DP and/or a dedicated website sending new people there to join in the effort. Then we fine tune our efforts to make sure we are winning people over. And as long as we see it is working, we NEVER stop.

While commercials for politicians become obsolete,the principles of truth,freedom,peace,non-aggression and goodwill will NOT become obsolete.I do not think a reasonable person would argue against the statement that the more people we have united behind these principles,the better.Therefore,does this idea not make sense?

With the "time bomb" method, we could make our message go viral on the internet, nationwide and worldwide, without asking people for money. With the right videos and a united effort by us, I am convinced this would work. In my opinion, this is how we win.

Anyone got a better idea? I'm all ears.

(Here is the link to a former post suggesting this idea.If anyone has any good short videos/ideas please post them to this previous thread.Thank You) ) http://www.dailypaul.com/275394/michaelplease-consider-this-...


This is what happens

...when you don't start with true history of man. When you start with the Bible, and you realize we all came from one man and one woman, and that we are all the same race, the same blood, with minor variations that result from the genetic variability our first parents had, environmental influences, etc., and don't use what is essentially collectivist thinking, it's much harder to be fooled by the us vs. them tactic - whether that's young vs old, male vs. female, black vs. white, rich vs. poor, labor vs. management, etc. That's a divisive tactic - divide and conquer - that is used by both our physical and spiritual enemies.

If you want a very brief article on "race," read this https://answersingenesis.org/racism/one-race/

It also has several links at the end to more information.

No King but Jesus, no President but Ron Paul

Smudge Pot can't see that his

Smudge Pot can't see that his version of history is nothing more than a man made fairy tale.

Who can't see what?

What history is not a man made fairy tale?

bathwater and throwing babies...

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I am not of the earth

I am spirit first,I came from above
I came to teach,but found no students
I came to learn,but find no teachers
I came from above,when this body dies,I shall return
to the above

Leave an indelible mark on all of those that you meet.
OH... have fun day :)

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We are not human beings

'We are not human beings having a spiritual experience. We are spiritual beings having a human experience'~Pierre Teilhard de Chardin


If Wars Can Be Started by Lies, They Can Be Stopped By Truth.

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Does explain

Why I never felt I fit in here,nor even understood it,huh?

Leave an indelible mark on all of those that you meet.
OH... have fun day :)

i did NO such things

i really hope this was just a rant smudge. i did no such things that you speak of and can not take blame for what others have done before me. i do not tie myself to any such doings except for my own. i am an individual. i also think of myself as a good person; how i used to think of you. we are all HERE together.

proverbs 20:15
There is gold, and an abundance of jewels;
But the lips of knowledge are a more precious thing.

This is retarded. It sounds

This is retarded. It sounds like you think that people were created for each continent instead of coming from one area and migrating throughout the world. Another moron that thinks "native Americans" were such peaceful hippie people, and not savages. They were trading with Europe long before Columbus came here.

Please come join my forum if you're not a trendy and agree with my points of view.

And China. History is slowly

And China.

History is slowly getting sorted out, kicking and screaming.

It's about dam time the ignorant masses of today pay attention to the ancient civilizations before it's all too late and permanently erased from the record.

This is based on your religion?

Because I thought we all descended from a single man and woman. This would make sense even to those who believe in evolution.

Are you asserting that each race has evolved independently out of the soil?
What would the definition of a race be?
How would intermarriage affect that race?

I am sad that the loving Smudge who has so often called us "brothers" seems to attack those who have lived in this land all of our lives simply because our great-ancestors may have lived apart or had quarrels. Will you truly hold me accountable for the offenses of an ancestor I do not even know? Is evil a gene that we receive or a choice that we make?

Isn't cursing someone just as evil as actually causing harm to them? Jesus said it was. If so, then those you call your grandfathers were not much better than those you call my grandfathers.

I am a native too. I was born in this land. This is my home. Just as much as it is yours.

Read the whole rant...

You realize the people you keep referring to died right? They're all gone. Forgive and forget man.

Not real sure who is 'you' now...but I didn't do any of that stuff so don't curse me. I got a hard enough time. And the TSA is so bad now I don't even fly in an airplane, could you imagine how bad the agency to 'protect' outer space would be? Forget space travel.

If ignorance is bliss, Washington DC must be heaven.

are you hurting, brother?

I am getting a lot of pain in those words. I feel for you and am sending you some love.

"All our words are but crumbs that fall down from the feast of the mind." - Khalil Gibran

Pain? yes but no more and no less

last of my line and physical?

yes brother. Very much so.

I am told my words can make people laugh or cry. And some say cry for me.

I ask you to laugh. Let joy infuse your heart. And may you be mirror bright. All light.

Most of those who think so actually don't and most of those who think sew actually rip.

I understand where you're coming from, but...

...lumping people into groups is still a collectivist way of thinking. We're all humans, just trying to do the best we can to make it through the day, regardless of who was on this land or that land first, second, third...whether we're white, brown, black, etc.

True followers of Christ know that this world is not their home, and they live and let live. There aren't that many left.

“The only way to deal with an unfree world is to become so absolutely free that your very existence is an act of rebellion.”
― Albert Camus

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A lively discussion.

A little from column A, a little from column B....

Well it's not all bad news is it?

It is? Oh well, either the very best or the very worst is yet to come.

Just hang in there baby. " A Great Wave is coming and it will wash away all that you know." Depending on who you are or how you are feeling this could be good news or this could be bad news. More to follow. More good, more bad or just more of the same?

Most of those who think so actually don't and most of those who think sew actually rip.

From what area did the flood prophecy come?

There are also Catholic or European prophecies that talk about many cities disappearing under tidal waves. Sometimes these prophecies indicate a comet.

I'm wondering if your prophecy is for a particular region. Maybe moving to higher ground is part of the message?