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Fox News Exposes DIEBOLD Vote Machine Fraud

Yep. I know- why couldn't it have been ANY other news organization to make this story? Oh well. Let's see if Youtube can make this go viral.



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Telling us, showing us these things -- Do ya think maaayybe there just might be something to this hacking thing? Huh?

http://www.brasschecktv.com/page/271.html

And we continue to be amazed at how well MCCAIN and ROMNEY and HUCKABEE and OBAMA and HILLARY are doing compared with our hero RON PAUL. Why be amazed, why not instead just be informed // If it's possible (and apparently it is) and we continue to be amazed at how high or how low the numbers go -- then what does that say about us? Are we stupid or are we being tricked [again]. I don't know about you but I've decided that this election is going down a road we've all been down before.

It's where a candidate can get MINUS votes (speaking of GORE in a previous election). It's where a candidate like GWB can win an election. It's appears we live in a land where even a guy like MCCAIN and a gal like HILLARY can grow up to be president of the United States someday -- with the right backing and right support behind them, anything's possible.

Try and have a nice day.

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Stolen votes vs. brokered convention

If every candidate got exactly the votes that people submitted and we end up with a brokered convention, if there is no clear winner, isn't the "brokering" the same "cigar-filled backroom" politics, as usual?

We just saw a minor example of it in WV. A lot like "Survivor", huh?

And here we've all thought that our primary votes were for President, when Ron Paul's campaign has taught us (and the other candidates!) that the "beauty votes" being reported by the MSM are irrelevant in most states vs. the election of delegates to the state/national conventions. Even then, after one vote, most of those delegates can vote for whomever they please, regardless of the will of their voters.

Given the national GOP/Dem arbitrary decisions to even eliminate delegates from states as "punishment", the national parties may be even worse than the CFR et al! How do we vote *them* out?

But I thought Rupert Murdoch...

who owns Fox news, was in a conspiracy with Diebold and all the mainstream media to keep Ron Paul from getting votes. It doens't make sense that Murdoch would allow this to be exposed, unless it's something to throw us off and there is something more sinister going on.

cmon guys this is so old not a new story fox ran last year?

do you think this story is going to change anything

Dr. Paul touched the topic in Minneapolis

In the course of his remarks to a crowd of 4,200 in Minneapolis on Monday night, Dr. Paul did make reference to the questions that people have about whether their votes are being counted honestly. He did not allege specific "steals," but it is clear he is aware of the problem!

The Minneapolis speech was a tremendous hit with the audience, many of whom shed their Midwestern reserve and reticence to give Dr. Paul a rousing response; though I think the loudest cheers of all were for the military veterans in the audience, when Dr. Paul thanked them for having defended our country.

Dr. Paul is not an orator---but he has the gift of explaining things clearly and stating the truth in a "self-evident" way. His conclusion was simple: Under the Constitution, " . . . the government shouldn't try to run your life, the government shouldn't try to run the economy, and the government shouldn't try to police the world."

HOPE FOR AMERICA! No matter what we're "told" is the outcome tomorrow, there's no reason to back down or give up!

Technoklutz

5000 clicks from this site, and yet

the video has only 377 ratings, one measly honor: 42nd top rated for the week in News & Politics, meaning no one really is viewing it anymore. Please rate videos.

Only obstacle to winning

I believe that the only remaining obstacle to winning the votes, is electronic voting machines. Ample prove available to show how unreliable and easy to hack these machines are available. The high court had a hearing from the programmer himself, and now the N.H. vote fraud, and most probably wherever they can include these undemocratic machines, the chances of voter fraud will be the most important tool the elites have to stop Dr.Paul from ending their empire. There is a beginning to change back to paper ballots, and let pray, all the nation will remove all remaining voting machines. With a hand count, in view of the voting public, citizens to make sure the chain of custody is fully respected, then I think Dr. Paul has already won.
God Bless Dr. Paul.

Taomaster

But how is it hacked?

The professor said it could be hacked in 10 seconds, why didn't they show how one would do that? If it involves removing the panel on a machine or getting past a key system that would be pretty hard to do on a massive scale. Say I wanted to change *all* voting machines, I would need to go to every single machine in the country and do this. The chances are I would be caught at some point if it involves doing something visible to other people in the area. I'm not saying there aren't problems, but I want a clear idea of how vulnerable they truly are in a realistic sense.

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If You're Truly Serious And Wanting To Know More -- Watch This

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Here's an excellent documentary on DIEBOLD machines.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7907810896542492471...

It's a presentation that last nearly 1 1/2 hours but well worth the time and effort to watch and learn. Allow me to summarize for you -- These machines are worthless, proven as such, and yet the wheels are in motion to ignore this TRUTH and push them into position for our use in this continuing fiasco of us 'thinking' our vote counts. It doesn't, not when DIEBOLD is doing the math.

DIEBOLD is more than the touch screen that we get our fingers on -- there is the 'key card' to consider that collects and stores the individual votes. It has been proven (the documentary) that these 'key cards' are capable of receiving manipulated data, something that can purposefully affect the output (the tally) before they even come close to a DIEBOLD machine. These 'key cards' are collected from each location and dumped into a central calculator (a data base) which crunches out numbers in a pre-determined fashion where 2 + 2 doesn't always equal 4 -- And obviously it should. All we the voter know is that we selected our choice in a private environment and 'that choice' was collected and tallied in with all others. Fraud has been proven with these machines (let me make that capital letters -- PROVEN) and yet the machines continue to be put into use.

I know this because I've watched the documentary and now must go to the voting booth where we (in this county) use those damn machines. It's all very neat, very efficient, and very likely my vote for RON PAUL will be added and given to another -- a candidate that those doing the voter fraud have predetermined to be the winner.

Damn it anyway, this isn't how things ought to be here in our country. I'm frustrated and yet must fall in line with everyone else because business continues as usual and nothing is done to fix (correct) known wrongdoings. And this is a super important one. What has our once wonderful country become?

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Can you answer?

I'm downloading that documentary now so I can watch it on the big screen. The first part looks like it's talking about outdated technology but I assume the rest deals with the more modern machines we saw in the FOX News video. In the meantime, since you saw it, can you answer the questions I posed?

I would like to see a simulated test where we have regular mock-county voting room set up with people milling around and see how a hacker would go in and change things. Including having the people do the checks on the machines before and after the hack to see if it is detectable.

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I'll try and answer your question -- however I would hope by now you managed to complete the download and have seen the documentary and have answered your own questions in this regard.

The documentary does address earlier Presidential election fraud (GWB - GORE time period) // there is considerable mention of discovery efforts proving questionable things did in fact occur and directly laid at the foot of DIEBOLD. As far as this technology being outdated, I believe we will find there has been little to no change in the machines being bought and used this time around as well. Perhaps a few bells and whistles but I am under the impression that little has been changed to ensure the security and accuracy of DIEBOLD. And also as I understand it (another source), DIELBOLD is working to change their name for all the obvious reasons that would make good sense for them to do that and continue business as usual under a new face plate --

I'm not sure how realiable this machine technology is today. I suppose it could be made reliable but certain powers may very well wish it otherwise or at least capable of leaning data in their direction. Perhaps that is, in fact, a validation of it being reliable -- if it can in fact do that -- it just depends upon which end of the barrell (the smoking gun) you find yourself facing.

Perhaps it has deemed itself more than realiable to produce data in a predetermined and desireable manner, and it's not just careless machine error we're dealing with here, but a tool fully capable of providing actual manipulated data to produce a desired result. That's the real danger here, I believe more than anything else -- it's the hand of man that remains the real problem. Machines basically do what they are told to do, and they routinely do that extremely well. Adding numbers should be pre-kindergarten for these sophisticated electronic machines, wouldn't you think so.

What I was seeing in the documentary left me with a sinking feeling that all security problems were not fixed even though DIEBOLD claimed they were; an independent effort proved DIEBOLD made no fix to numerous things that had been identified previously; they claimed it had fixed it when it had not been. DIELBOLD claimed that the 'key card' was not something that could be manipulated; however, an independent expert proved it could be. Again a security problem, not machine problem as such.

Of course it appears that the real evil here is the hand of man using these machines to do their bidding, not so much faulty machinery. Think I said that already, sorry if I did, just trying to make a point.

I certainly wasn't left with a warm and comfortable feeling seeing any of this. I'm not an expert in this area, just a concerned voter/user myself. I would like to think all has been fixed yet I seriously believe it has not -- again for all the obvious reasons that would make good sense to those wanting to manipulate data in their favor.

Greed and corruption will always be an obstacle, most likely. But these DIEBOLD machines are still at the heart of questions for many of us. It would be fine if all is being handled fair and square and above the table, if you understand my meaning. I believe the technology is such that it has become even more difficult to determine if what we get is what we expected to get.

I'm sure that didn't answer much -- but again -- the documentary is your reference source. After watching it you will be as concerned as I remain. Good luck to all of us is about all I can add here.

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hack

Of course they aren't going to show you what they did or the process thereof even in theory. There are many youtube videos that do cover it though.

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Glass Half Full...

...or at least a quarter full. I agree with several comments here. Faux News is obviously not the "Fair and Balanced" network they claim to be. However, I consider the fact that they have done a story like this at all a small victory for those who are fighting for fair elections. They could have had a story swaying things the other way, trying to convince people that these machines aren't easily hacked. Is it the big story it should be? No. But it is a start. Keep in mind that the vote fraud issue has been largely portrayed as a Democrat/liberal fantasy. Al Gore and John Kerry really won the elections, George Bush cheated, etc. Perhaps they will even raise the question of lies about 9/11 and the road to war in Iraq. Dreaming? Maybe, but then I figured Ron Paul had 0% chance of winning the nomination a year ago. Sometimes dreams do come true. Heck, maybe they'll even endorse RP for the general election. LOL ;)

"All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing."

"All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing."

We Know Those DIEBOLD Machines Are Worthless

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Here again, TRUTH is given (to those watching and learning using FOX News as their guru and teacher) // but notice that the general attitude was DIEBOLD will be back in a moment to challenge you on this fact. The last word as if there truly is cause for a challenge -- when we know there is not // We know this, but they (those watching FOX News) most likely don't.

And then there is that quick flash to the two smiling YOUNG MEN from Princeton who discovered this for the world. YOUNG being the key word there. They looked like grade schoolers, all smiles and dressed up nice and shiney -- YOUNG.

I'm always one to question anything and everything -- this included. The PsyOps of showing us truth but doing so in such a light as we question the validity of the same. Even the two FOX representatives allowing this demostration seemed less than supportive of real truth -- body language or something they said -- may be more in how they said it.

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5% yeah right!

5% may use that maching but 1/2 the country uses those ballot readers. Why?
What we need is a few countys to have 100 people show up with axes and just destroy all of them. I'd go to jail for a day for that.

What's the hurry?

Amazing how they can rush this story through when it has such huge ramifications. That's the trouble with US news. They want to keep things stupid and light and not get into anything too heavy or controversial.

Can you imagine how much better we'd be off if we spent all the time and energy that is spent on the Superbowl and gave America a really good discussion on what each presidential candidate is offering this country for the next 4 or 8 years?

I've read an article about congress pushing for paper ballots

in all 50 states before the presidential elections due to errors and voters losing trust in the system.
Basically there's a good majority of states where you cant recount if you wanted to.

so thus they're following colorado''s path

Ron Paul Must Speak Out Against Election Fraud

Watch http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=REfVcc-4Zrk and widely forward it. Call RP HQ and demand that RP speak out re Election Fraud. We're not witnessing an election, we're witnessing a CIA installation made possible via widespread election fraud which is exposed in this video.

Some have said RP "can't" speak out on this issue because he'd be "crucified in the press". My response: "So what?" Since we're not watching an ACTUAL election, only the ILLUSION of an election, WHAT DIFFERENCE DOES IT MAKE?

Nothing will EVER change unless SOMEONE takes this on. RP was wrong to say "no fraud" occurred in NH. He was wrong to participate in the SC Primary- the whole thing went totally against the SC constitution which forbids counting ballots in secret. SC used the ivotronic touch screen machine thats been banned in CA, OH, and CO where it was deemed "unfit to be used in any election" to to its hackability and tendency to break down.

Why doesn't RP file an injunction to throw out the "results" from NH and SC? All primaries since NH are totally black box, totally riggable. The script for this sham "election" was written at the Bilderberg meeting in Ottawa last June. Our votes are meaningless. The "nominees" were selected before the "election" ever started and so was the "winner".

Prediction: McCain will be put in place by the computer programmers with the intent that he'll be the next "Dole" (unelectable).

Then they'll move to insert either Hillary or Obama, or hell, maybe Hillary will name Obama as her running mate then they'd insert both of them.

Whatever happens, WE won't have had ANYTHING to do with it. Remember, via Operation Mockingbird the CIA totally controls the media. They are putting this circus on to make us THINK our votes "matter". Thats so we won't rebel come November when our next dictator is INSERTED on us. Please join me in DEMANDING that RP speak out on this. We're being SCREWED.

John Hammell

Ballots in California getting crunched in non-working machines

I received this link today: http://silverstockreport.com/2008/california_fraud.html

in which this serious investment advisor claims:

The California Election results are totally fraudulent, no question about it. They did not count one vote! And it's easy for anyone to see, look at the election results by district, in all 53 districts:

I don't believe the election results, because the results are essentially the same in every district in the entire State of California.

Example: http://www.bbvforums.org/forums/messages/73/71751.jpg

It is impossible that every district voted the same, and that the candidates ranked the same in every district!

Just as the nation has red and blue States, with blue, Democratic, States in the cities on the coast, and red States in the Heartland who lean more Republican, similarly, California has red leaning and blue leaning districts.

I mean, come on, how could McCain win California, in every district, so similarly? McCain got only 13% in Iowa, and only 12% in Nevada, the freedom-loving neighboring State next door!

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/nv/ne...

We, in California, should have at least one district that went like Nevada, or Iowa. At least one!

Source: http://silverstockreport.com/2008/california_fraud.html

He also has a link to extensive photo evidence of crumbled ballots in Sequoia 400C scanners
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Is he on to something? Or are we beginning to see fraud and conspiracy, everywhere?

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We can get all 50 states to use paper ballots but

if the ballots are counted by optical scan equipment, as will be done in Florida, then we are back to Dieboldland again. Paper ballots need primary/caucus/election day hand counting with complete video coverage.

"Be wary of those who know the truth. Align yourself with those who are questing for the truth." L. Gardner

Easy to Hack

Diebold conveniently added a user-accessible USB port, designed for firmware upgrades.

Thats just insane. Anybody with a USB thumbdrive can hack a Diebold machine.

How?

Ok, so lets say I bring my USB stick to a voting machine. First, do I need a key to remove a panel to get access? Second, once I plug it in, what happens? Does a window pop up showing the files and allowing me to run code from the USB stick or what? You need to provide some details.

I would prefer a paper trail at all of these votes for sure and think it should be mandatory, but I'm looking for some details.

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Upstate New York just voted to use these machines!

No conspiracy? Upstate is Republican - NYC is dem.

There goes New York! :(

I may be a vegetarian, but I'll defend to the death my right to eat pork!

I may be a vegetarian, but I'll defend to the death my right to eat meat!

Didn't California outlaw Diebold

machines in all elections after a stinging state investigation? If so, can we come up with a state-by-state game plan to end them in the other 49? Let's roll.

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Disinfo

The most important part of this presentation is the lie that 95% of the vote in not counted by Diebold. 5% might use this particular touch screen set up, but how many votes are ULTIMATELY counted by machines? In secret? Certainly more than 5%.

This was a disinfo piece, people. Your first hint is that it was on fox. The goal of this piece is to acknowledge the vote fraud that most people at least sense is taking place, and to quickly put a benign spin on it, and thereby diffuse the outrage that is brewing over the stolen votes. Five percent my ass.

He Mentioned the 5% Number at LEAST Twice!

Only caucuses and now only about 25% of the New Hampshire primary are still counted by hand. The rest of the ENTIRE COUNTRY involves machines of one type or another! And it really doesn't matter if they are paper ballots counted by Optical Scanners wit a paper trail; the machines can still be programmed to manipulate the results because the ballots stay LOCKED inside the black box and can be easily switched out behind closed locked doors!
There are 4 major companies that own the voting machines and they are ALL part of the global elite. Until we COMPLETELY rid the country of ALL machines, we will NEVER have an Honest election!
We've had Bushs' and Clintons in the White House since 1988, Isn't it time for a change?

"If virtue and knowledge are diffused among the People, they will never be enslaved. This will be their great security."
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Absolutely agree it's a disinfo spin

I trust Fox as much as I trust voting machines.

Let's kill the company!

Diebold doesn't just make voting machines. They also make ATMs. STOP USING ALL ATMs. Go into the bank and talk to a person. Maybe give them a RP slim jim with your transaction. Make sure you look at the card reader wherever you shop. If it says Diebold, use cash or go somewhere else.

Vote Fraud

I have no doubt that there has been vote fraud ever since New Hampshire.

This very machine is capable of making our whole presidential election a fraud and it gets a hurried up 3 minutes of Faux?

Where is the public outrage? Where is the other "news" outlets?

The whole Diebold dovumentary should be put on primetime TV. Bill Moyers might run with this one! He's one of the last truth tellers left on ms TV.

Bill Moyers really respects Ron Paul

Did you see the PBS piece back in October?

I'm going to try to find out how to contact him about this. Thanks for the suggestion. We've only got a few months until the real thing...

Yes

We watch Bill Moyer's show every week on PBS. It's a great show and more folks should watch it. PBS is one of our 4 channels we get on our rabbit ears TV antenna.

They had Senator Waxman on last week showing how Condaleesa Rice is nothing more than a bald faced liar and this whole administration breaks the law on a daily basis. Many many people are getting rich by stealing the taxpayers of this country blind.

I love Bill, he hates Rupert Murdoch as much as I do.

Just enough coverage

Pretty short clip!
Just enough coverage to say that they informed the public. The reality is, this is one of those things that should be front page news until it is fixed. Yet, I really don't expect FOX to "stay on top of this" story until justice is done. They are just trying to appear "fair and balanced", with a short blip about voting fraud..

Votes are counted in secret. Wait till MONEY is counted this way

OH! it already is. Some day soon all paper and coin money will be done away with and your money will be accounted for with the use of these same hackable computer systems. Malicious transferring of funds from one account to another will give new meaning to the term "money changers". You remember the guys that Jesus threw out of the temple in Jerusalem? They are still with us. Most of them work for or own part of the Federal Reserve.
So, you know the machines can steal votes, but do you realize the code can be written to guarantee a certain cadidate a victory by keeping up with the relative totals of all candidates? In the example, George Washington had 3 votes. The machine didn't take them all but only enough to guarantee a win of 2-1 for B. Arnold. In a big election the difference would not raise too much suspicion.

If they say 5%, my guess is 15%, probably more.

Of course, it's just my guess.

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Well who would have thought?

And we keep these freakin' things around? Wow! It's about time somebody gets these machines exposed. No wonder McBrain dead is doing so well.

Ron Paul has my vote!

Only 5% Percent?

Perhaps with this particular model. What about the other versions that could be programmed in the same way. That's my question. Then, what would the percentage be?

Fed-Up

And no one will do anything

And no one will do anything about it. Sigh.

wha?

fox is hurting that bad, so they decided to report real news for once.

thanks faux. we'll see how far you'll take this.

let's digg this. why did someone say digg is evil?

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5% of the country votes with

5% of the country votes with machines like this. That means Ron Paul needs to win by at least a real 5%+ margin in order to guarantee that any voter fraud with these machines will not make a difference.

Let's get back to work and convert more voters to the RP revolution!!! :-)

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Maybe that Particular type of machine, but almost the ENTIRE

Country uses some sort of HACKABLE vote stealing machines! The only exception, as noted above are at the Caucuses and about 25% of NH hand counts their ballots, but even then they didn't report the votes correctly, HOW ODD!

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And here is how Hilary and

And here is how Hilary and McCain have and will steal the election.

NEEDS TO GO VIRAL

May this make youtube most watched video with MILLIONS of people watching it.

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Viral

Let's see 5% x thousands of voters = BIG FRAUD