ANOTHER Cable Cut. ALL phone and internet from middle east is now routed through United States.
Submitted by treber on Sun, 02/03/2008 - 10:22
UPDATE--- I HAVE FOUND MENTION OF 4 CABLES, BUT ONLY CAN NAME THREE, 2 IN THE MED 1 IN THE GULF
4 cables cut in 3 days in three separate "accidents"
http://malaysia.news.yahoo.com/afp/20080202/tbs-india-mideas...
This can not possibly be accidental.
Is this to prevent news from Going to the middle east, Coming from the middle east, or for surveillance of the middle east.
This is a major operation that takes specialized skills to operate in the deep water, ie: military.
WHAT DOES THIS MEAN?
the first thing that comes to mind is Iran, second Israel/Palestine.
Anyone have any thoughts on this?
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war will be coming in the next couple of weeks
Iran's Oil Bourse: A Threat to the U.S. Economy?
http://www.worldpress.org/Mideast/2314.cfm
"All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent" Thomas Jefferson
"All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent" Thomas Jefferson
Four cables cut-> 4th &5th pargraph
"Two cables were damaged earlier this week in the Mediterranean sea and another off the coast of Dubai, causing widespread disruption to Internet and international telephone services in Egypt, Gulf Arab states and South Asia.
A fourth cable linking Qatar to the United Arab Emirates was damaged on Sunday causing yet more disruptions, telecommunication provider Qtel said."
http://www.khaleejtimes.com/DisplayArticleNew.asp?xfile=data...
IRAN is only country dark, others re routed or slow.
It's called McPain & Disable!
With all lines running through U.S. then a supreme monitoring ability has been enabled, wouldn't you say?
Like Madeline Albright on the Laura Ingraham show, all kinds of tectonic movement these days.
They know what they're doing so let's stay focused.
Bump & Stump for your precinct!
This is an "IRAN only" network attack
Check this out:
http://www.internettrafficreport.com/history/267.htm
No one believes this is an "Accident"
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I may be a vegetarian, but I'll defend to the death my right to eat meat!
This reminds me...
This reminds me of the video game Metal Gear Solid 2. The shadow government of the United States is able to edit and censor all information on the internet. Very scary. Something they don't want us to know about has happened in the middle east.
I guess it must have been submarines dragging their anchors.
Ships did not cause Internet cable damage
(AFP)
3 February 2008
http://www.khaleejtimes.com/DisplayArticleNew.asp?xfile=data...
‘The ministry’s maritime transport committee reviewed footage covering the period of 12 hours before and 12 hours after the cables were cut and no ships sailed the area,’ a statement said.
‘The area is also marked on maps as a no-go zone and it is therefore ruled out that the damage to the cables was caused by ships,’ the statement added.
And, according to this, only Iran is cut off
http://www.internettrafficreport.com/asia.htm
Network Warfare - Iran Dark, Iraq and Israel unaffected
From Mathaba News:
“The only 2 countries that were unaffected were Israel and Iraq, the only two close Anglo-American allies in the region, both remaining completely unaffected by the cable cuts, leading to theories for the causes of the cuts, which have so far been given as having been caused by ships dragging their anchors across the cables. The fact that two rare incidents have happened in the same week, and both with cables owned by the same company, on either sides of Israel and the importance of the Internet to telecommunications and business, lends suspicion to the events.” (Mathaba.net http://mathaba.net/news/?x=580589)
"Information, always important in warfare, is now critical to military success and will only become more so in the foreseeable future....."
>Information Operation Roadmap was declassified by the Pentagon because of a Freedom of Information Act request by the National Security Archive at George Washington University.<
thanks.
thanks.
One of the common techniques used in disinformation is
to time events when the public's attention is pre-occupied and focused elsewhere. Isn't the superbowl on later today?
Wanna see a scary article?
February 3, 2008
US Crashes Internet In Middle East After Saudi Threat, Russia Responds With Air Forces
By: Sorcha Faal, and as reported to her Western Subscribers
Reports circulating in the Kremlin today are painting a grim picture of just how desperate US War Leaders have become as their economy continues its freefall towards total bankruptcy by their crashing of Global Internet access for the Middle Easts banking centers in Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Abu Dhabi, Iran, UAR, Turkey and Kuwait.
These reports state that the Americans became enraged this past week when the Organization of the Petroleum Exporting Countries (OPEC) rejected US demands for an immediate increase in oil production.
Further angering the Americans this past week was Turkeys rejection of US demands for them to sever banking ties with Iran's Bank Mellat, and which allows Iranian continued access to Global banking resources.
But, these reports state, the greatest fears of the United States were raised this past week when Saudi Arabia warned the United States to back off of its threats against Iran or face the Saudis decoupling the US Dollar from its enormous World oil trade transactions.
Though the American President [pictured top left with Saudi King] personally went to the Saudi Kingdom to lobby the USs Middle East allies in agreeing for attacks against Iran for the Iranians decoupling of the US Dollar from its oil trade, Bush was quickly rebuffed.
It should be noted that those Nations who have dared to decoupled the US Dollar from their oil trade, Iraq, Iran, Russia and Venezuela, have come under withering attacks from the Americans, and their Western Allies; none worse than the Iraqis who are reported to have suffered over 1 million deaths since being invaded by the US in 2003.
But, as these reports state, the worst nightmare of the Americans appeared to be coming true this past week when their Saudi Arabian allies were reported to have begun the decoupling of the US Dollar from their oil trade with the intention of replacing the rapidly declining American currency with the European Euro.
American War Leaders, though, have had previous warnings of the Saudis growing fears of being the holders of trillions of declining US Dollars with Saudi Arabia, for the first time, refusing to drop their interest rates in lock-step with the US Federal Reserve, and leading to fears of a stampede by other Middle Eastern Nations out of US Dollar backed assets.
Under such a threat, and with the Saudi King growing closer to Irans President Ahmadinejad [both pictured top left 2nd photo], Russian Military Analysts state in these reports that the United States invoked one of their so called nuclear options by severing the three major undersea cables connecting the Middle Easts major banking centers to their Western, and Global, counterparts.
The significance to the severing of these cables is the Middle East Banking Centers being denied access to the Society for Worldwide Interbank Financial Telecommunication (SWIFT), based in Brussels and which carries up to 12.7 million messages a day containing instructions on many of the International transfers of money between banks, lies in Saudi Arabia, or any other Middle East Nation, being unable to change their previously, before loss of communication, encoded currency instructions from being changed.
Moscows actions against the West, in the severing by the United States of these cables, was swift as President Putin ordered Russian Air Force Fighters and Bombers to take immediate action to protect the Russian Nations vital undersea cables in the Arctic and Atlantic Oceans.
To some of the Russian Air Force assets used we can read as reported by the Reuters News Service article titled "Russia sends bombers, fighters to Atlantic, Arctic", and which says:
"Air force pilots will carry out practice in the areas involving reconnaissance, missile-bombing attacks on a navy attack force of a hypothetical enemy, air-to-air combat and refuelling and patrolling," an air force spokesman said. The bomber group included two Tupolev Tu-160 strategic bombers, codenamed "Blackjack" by NATO, two turbo-prop Tu-95 "Bear" strategic bombers, and eight Tu-22 "Blinder" bombers. MiG-31 and Su-27 fighters were also sent to the region."
To the final outcome of these events it is not in our knowing, other than one Russian Banking Official, wishing to remain anonymous, stating that, Should the Saudis effectively decouple their oil from the US Dollar, the United States, for all practical purposes will cease to be a World power as it economy will collapse completely as the US Dollar has no value in and of itself due to the staggering debt of the Americans. Without oil they are nothing.]
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Sorcha who?
With respect, pls. attribute this article. Like most folks who support RP, I like to know where info comes from so I can judge for myself whether or not I think it's reliable.
Thanks!
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In another thread
All the info you need on the Sorcha article here
http://www.dailypaul.com/node/33212
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Ships did not cut internet cable, Another damaged Sunday
No ships were present when two marine cables carrying much of the Middle East's Internet traffic were severed, Egypt's Ministry of Communications has said, contrary to earlier speculation about the causes of the cut.
The ministry added that the location, 5 miles from the port of Alexandria, was in a restricted area so ships would not have been allowed there to begin with.
DOHA (AFP) — An undersea telecoms cable linking Qatar to the United Arab Emirates was damaged, disrupting services, telecommunications provider Qtel said on Sunday, the latest such incident in less than a week.
http://ukpress.google.com/article/ALeqM5hTi5wNwTD66nvWdTAQw2...
http://afp.google.com/article/ALeqM5i03tUdyj8wf2Xa9P4trWEjqA...
An article says it was to
An article says it was to stop the Saudi's from electonically dumping their dollars in favor of Euro based securities and thus saving collapse of the dollar. I cannot speak to the correctness of the information though.
Not likely...
the Saudis probably have most of their dollars in English and Swiss exchanges and banks already. The Saudis can move their assets quite easily, thank you.
Yeah, it's like
one plane flying into a building could be an accident, but two planes...
So just what are Bush/Cheney and the Military Industrial Complex up to, anyway?
A communications disruption can only mean one thing.
CAPT. PANAKA
Check the transmission generators...
BIBBLE
A malfunction?
CAPT. PANAKA
It could be the Federation jamming
us. Your Highness.
BIBBLE
A communications disruption can only
mean one thing. Invasion.
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Here is a good article
http://www.whatdoesitmean.com/index1067.htm
Here comes the big one!
Does my burka make my butt look fatwa?
IRAN IS NOT DOWN
Iran does have internet people. It's the router that is down. So traffic is re-routed. People in Iran DO have telecom on hardlines. It's slower because of the re-routing but it is working.
A good analogy would be that they've been removed from Broadband and put back on 56k modems. They do have telecom though. All of the articles and understanding I'm seeing that Iran is somehow blacked out couldn't be farther from the truth.
Look at it this way. If you
Look at it this way. If you pour sand through a funnel only a little of the sand is making it out and most doesn't right away. Iran is not totally blacked out but many of the people are, it just there's not enough bandwidth to support all the peoples internet so, in a way they are blacked out. If everyone who was a member of dailypaul and all its viewers were to visit dailypaul at once some of you would get through and most wouldn't right away, because its flooded with traffic and the server couldn't handle it. So when you take all the traffic of 4 major cables and route it through one, then two, three, and then the 4th as they start fixing it. It will regain momentum. However, right now In theory they are blacked out.
As far as these occurrences being a accident. Thats far from the truth... Im usually pretty unbiased but I am very convinced that these are early stages of a serious operation. Read this article that was written in 2006 about the Oil Bourse and it clearly states as you read on that things like this will start happening as a war starts to be birthed. Now I don't know how fair this article is but it seems pretty factual to me, and its predictions are indeed coming true.
http://www.energybulletin.net/12125.html
Then look at the Wikipedia on the Oil Bourse and this crisis and notice the timeline of what's occurring. This is some serious stuff, and what I believe to be the gestation of a MAJOR war, but I could be wrong.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iranian_Oil_Bourse
And now finally Russia is responding....
http://in.reuters.com/article/worldNews/idINIndia-3172022008...
Interestin'
I wouldn't join the military about now or any time in the near future!
Hello... WWIII
When we attack Iran we will be attacked by Russia. They have a treaty.
3 or 4 cables don't just get CUT in different areas for different reasons on the same day. THIS IS BLACK OPS!!!
Ever see the Matrix when they CUT THE HARD LINE. Also, Iran had posted their version of the speedboat incursion on youtube. Thwarting our attempts at another Gulf of Tonkin.
See for yourself
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X_eVLfioCCM
It is funny how we also have HIGH TECH satelites falling out of the sky and people are still not noticing.. shame.
Does my burka make my butt look fatwa?
And don't forget China, Iran
And don't forget China, Iran is one of their oil suppliers. China can bring us down without firing a shot. All they need to do is start dumping our dollars. Something they have already threatened.
The Worse Part
is that Russia has already stated that they have no problem with a pre-emptive nuclear strike. Looks like they will play by US rules on that one. We're in trouble if that happens!
Blessings )o(
Since this was brought
Since this was brought up..
As I stood in the cold this morning, pondering the day to come, the thought of the cut cables crossed my mind.
The only 'mainstream' media source that it had remained on for any great length of time (if at all) was drudge... but it vanished from there some time on Friday and has yet to be revisited.
I wondered if the problem was still there. All other areas that were hit by the blackout due to the cables being cut had had their communications restored by rerouting traffic. The last time I checked Iran was the only place on the list that was still dark.
Another day and a half has gone by, so I thought maybe the rerouting had been completed for Iran too, perhaps.. maybe? I admit I hadn't paid attention to it all day yesterday, so maybe it was done.
I just checked. Nope. Iran is till 'down'. And it's not just a glitch in the internet traffic report site, or a delay in annoucing that traffic had been restored. It really is still down. This is easily confirmed by pinging the Iranian router, which anyone who is reading this post can do.
If you want to know how, here's the easy version (for windows users):
Click Start > Run
Type CMD
In the box that pops up (called a DOS prompt or DOS window) type the following:
ping router1.iust.ac.ir (then hit the enter key)
You'll see a couple lines of jibberish and then a pause. Then 'request timeout' will show up four times. (pings send four requests, thus four replies).
To show that it's not just a goof, or misleading result, type this:
ping core-mgl.cbn.net.id (then hit the enter key)
That will send the ping request to the Indonesian router. You'll see a response. It'll probably reject the last three, but the first one will show up, and none of them should say 'Request Timed Out'.
Ok.. computer geeky lesson for the day completed :)
CF
Logic states pattern
1 accident
2 coincidence
3 pattern
Wake up people. Something is definitely going on here and most information points to the Iranian Oil Bourse.