The real scoop about Maine
I just called Maine's GOP. They have told me the media is incorrectly reporting the results. They said they are missing some results from Saturday and Sunday and are trying to track that down. I said 30? They said yes. I do not believe it.
Not only are they hiding his finish, they are reporting inaccurate delegates to discourage us in the media, based on a survey. Even worse they are reporting a 3rd place finish based on a incomplete survey.
Ron Paul has come in 2nd in Nevada, Maine, LA, and Iowa's delegates are up for grabs. He is closer than most of us think.
Florida was not as important this year because it was only worth half the delegates.
RP is doing well in Washington, Alaska, Colorado, Minnesota, Tennessee, Utah, Montana, and North Dakota right now.
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Ron Paul came in 2nd
Ron Paul Beats McCain in Maine Caucus, Primed to Win Over 1/3 of State Delegates
In the race for delegates, Ron Paul appears to closely trail Romney for first place
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
February 4, 2008
ARLINGTON, VIRGINIA – While most reports about this past weekend’s Maine Caucus focused on the purely symbolic presidential preference poll, in the meaningful race to secure delegates to the state convention Ron Paul is primed to finish second with likely 35 percent of the total delegates.
Delegates to the Republican National Convention in Minneapolis are elected by the state delegates. Internal results from 10 of 16 counties, including the largest cities of Portland, South Portland, Lewiston, Auburn, Augusta, Waterville, Bangor, and Brewer, show Ron Paul picking up 215 of 608 State Convention delegates so far reported, or 35%.
“Ron Paul’s strong second place finish in Maine, in which he beat John McCain, is proof that this race is far from over,” said Ron Paul campaign manager Lew Moore. “We’ll continue to battle for every delegate in this wide-open race for the Republican nomination.”
In the presidential preference poll, with 70 percent reporting, Ron Paul is in third place just two percentage points behind John McCain. However, the Maine preference poll is purely a beauty contest, and in the actual election of state delegates the so-called “frontrunner” McCain is far behind Ron Paul
I'm Maintaining A Positive Attitude
Vote RON PAUL 2008
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The good people in MAINE won't stand for wrongdoings in this election -- they are bound to enforce the rules and regulations and disclose the facts when they are releaseable. How do I know this? I don't. I'm just hoping like hell that we have some good honest people up there in that part of our United States of America, honest enough to see this election fiasco and media black out for what it otherwise is.
Hey, didn't I see an MSNBC news article last Friday that indicated that RON PAUL would likely take first place in Maine? I go about my daily activities convinced that MSM is trying its best to confuse and redirect my attention BUT in this particular case I hope it bit them where the sun don't shine and RON PAUL did in fact win the State. Just up to you good and honest folks to report that back to us now; thanking you in advance forr your time and understanding in this regard.
PS -- Visited your fine State last year, had a wonderful time sight-seeing. Loved the lobster rolls. Not that telling you this has anything to do with trying to influence your decision process ;-)
Vote RON PAUL 2008.
Vote RON PAUL 2008
i think all the rumors about
i think all the rumors about a strong RP showing really scared the other candidates. all sort of creatures came out of the woodwork wearing Romney buttons...people I had never seen before in my life. they must have really been pushing hard behind the scenes for a good turnout.
our city has a population between 30k-35k. we get 43 delegates to the state convention. usually 25 people show up to the whole caucus and maybe 10-15 become delegates. this year the turnout was in the hundreds and all the delegate slots got filled. in fact we ran out of ballots!
if turnout had been "typical" then RP would have won in a landslide. the heavy turnout means that the numbers were more even. on a good note it is a really big deal for the republican party here to have such a turnout. we have three parties (D), (R), and (G)...and the gop has been weak here recently. we have a low median income yet are VERY highly taxed and i think people are starting to push back.
i would not be surprised if the romney camp paid people to vote and provided them transportation. i would like to point out that in the northern most county of the state (very rural area, no big business, nothing there for special interest people to have any interest in) RP won it all. these are ordinary small town people who like to make up their own mind. the message made it to them and they responded favorably.
I'm in Maine
and I am now a delegate to the state convention. Maine caucuses last for a week or more (but most happened this weekend). This is one reason that all the results are not yet available. The other thing you need to know is that two things happen at a Maine caucus.
1) there is a non-binding straw poll. this is what gets released to the media and lets them print the headline "romney wins".
2) delegates are elected to the state convention. these people will pick the delegates to go to the national convention to choose a candidate. the delegates are NOT BOUND by the straw poll results. nor do they have to identify who they support at this time.
you see the Maine republican party and the MSM have no way of knowing who really will win Maine until the May 2nd-3rd convention in Augusta...technically nobody will really know anything until the actual convention in St.Paul.
a conservative estimate by the grassroots here is that we have secured at least 35% of the delegate slots. but there are surely some RP supporters that have been elected as delegates that we do not know of so the actual % is probably higher. plus there are some undecided delegates and some who support huckster, keyes, etc. who we may be able to convince to support RP candidates at the state convention.
to sum it up: the straw poll is just a survey that means nothing, and nobody knows officially how many delegates support any of the candidates.
THE EASIEST ANSWER TO YOUR QUESTION WOULD BE THIS...
don't trust the MSM! and don't expect that they will tell you the truth. don't even expect that when RP gets a win someplace that they will mention it.
I think people are asking
I think people are asking for an account from Maine people regarding the precincts that are not accounted for yet. We want to understand where the number really stands for both the vote and the delegates. Wasn't there any Paul people in the missing precincts? If so, what numbers did they witness?
we have a MEETUP tonight. I
we have a MEETUP tonight. I will ask the Maine RP Coordinator and let you guys know.
Louisiana
Ron Paul stated that he won Louisiana and the press was not reporting it.
Can someone in Maine speak about this? Is this true?
Let us know. Thanks.
"Many of us agree that you and I have no right to use coercion against people who don't owe us anything. The same prohibition applies to groups of people who constitute the government. The reason is simple: unjust acts do not become just when legalized."
"Many of us agree that you and I have no right to use coercion against people who don't owe us anything. The same prohibition applies to groups of people who constitute the government. The reason is simple: unjust acts do not become just when legalized. "
I don't know why people
I don't know why people here are still paying attention to the MSM... Don't they understand that they are about Discouraging Ron Paul supporters?!!
NONE BUT PAUL!
The reason why I am paying attention to MSM
Is so that way I know what our opponent is doing. It helps me overcome objections. It does not discourage me, but let's me know where our oppositon is currently.
Also, many people on the fringe of converting pay attention to this. The challenge is for new people to become supporters and they are effective with their strategies and we need to know how to counter.
There is about 10% of the base Republican base that will vote for RP no matter what. It is about converting the rest in the battleground states.
We need to keep donating. This gives RP more options. More options to get a bigger arena to speak. More options to open up more offices.
We are closer than most people think.
We need to stand together.
Doesn't the campaign have legal staff available
I just can't believe the campaign allows these injustices to go without accountability. We might could get some press attention if we challenged some of these practices with lawsuits. But to let them sweep Ron Paul under the rug is crazy.
alan laney
Yes, its my understanding
Yes, its my understanding that they are actually in the process of filing litigation against the LAGOP and they are gathering more evidence as well. I think the LAGOP is in deep doo doo. So don't be surprised if there is either a reversal of the results or they are penalized all delegates for the state. I just hope they are able to get results soon enough to help our cause.
So in the case of Maine, anyone who has any info that shows any fraud or wrong doing in the caucus or the GOP needs to report it to the campaign in case they decide to do something in that state as well.
The MSM is manipulating the hearts and minds of the people...
"In circuit motorsport, a driver has..."Paul position" when he or she starts a race at the front of the grid."
This definitely
doesn't pass the smell test!
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"The essence of freedom is the proper limitation of government". ~ Founding Fathers
Question to "GiveMeLiberty"s post below'''
Be patient...let the state report the results here...
On February 4th, 2008 GiveMeLiberty says:
http://www.mainegop.com/F...
or here
http://mainecaucus.wordpr...
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I clicked that first link what's up with the more than 100 "undecided" votes did they actually have 'undecided" on the ballot Undecided got 2% of the vote with 70.5% reporting
I don't understand ???
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"We, the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution, but to overthrow men who pervert the Constitution." Abraham Lincoln
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"We, the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution, but to overthrow men who pervert the Constitution." Abraham Lincoln
Interesting...this makes me very suspicious
If 30% is missing which is OUTRAGIOUS, makes me wonder if those 30% missing actually belong to Ron Paul would put him in 1st place for Maine and they intentionally and willfully are withholding the fact to purposefully place Ron Paul behind McCain also made me wonder why give Ron Paul 3rd place and then my common sense answered that question for me by making me think they didn't want to make it too obvious so they strategically placed Ron Paul ahead of Huckabee. Grrrrrrrr Are we ever going to know the truth. This is becoming very consistent between all theses states so far What has happened to our "Fair Election" process?
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"We, the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution, but to overthrow men who pervert the Constitution." Abraham Lincoln
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"We, the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution, but to overthrow men who pervert the Constitution." Abraham Lincoln
Great summary!
I think you are spot on. Strange how every election can't report the last numbers. How hard is it to compile a spreadsheet and have people either call or email preliminary numbers??
I would like to hear from some Maine RP people or meetup groups in the missing precincts. Can Maine people please post some info?
I think we are doing awesome and need to keep our eye on the prize.
Remember the tortoise and the hare? That's Ron Paul. He knows how to win and so do we. Keep doing what works and be stealth!
Looking more and more bias
It just seems there is a real effort by the other campaigns and the media to make sure his good people are not heard. Also I think it comes from elected local officials who strongly support other candidates who are messing around in Maine and LA. I did swear to defend this constitution for it to be thrown into the trash.
WORD!
True dat.
Does my burka make my butt look fatwa?
Politico still shows only
68% of precincts reporting. How do you lose 30% of the vote?
Lets hold our course
Now more than ever.
Be patient...let the state report the results here...
http://www.mainegop.com/FlexPage.aspx?area=caucus2008results
or here
http://mainecaucus.wordpress.com/maine-caucus-results/
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A perfect God is not made imperfect by imperfect people.
Hell Yeah!
Positive news. Gotta love it. Come on people get fired up its Ron Paul Revolution
2nd wind lets get a final push into Super Tuesday and beyond!
Puppets come and puppets go but the world's stage is getting cluttered.
I Agree.
Besides a last minute effort by Romney, Ron Paul is still strong in Alaska.
And a presence of somebody from RP's family here would virtually guarantee a first place here.
PS: We need to call Maine and put some pressure.
What do you mean?
"I said 30?" What does that mean?
30
meaning percent missing! How could they be missing 30% of the votes!
they aren't missing anything
they're just hiding them until after tomorrow... that or they have someone changing them as we speak.
doesn't matter anyway. Even if they had released the total vote count and ron paul was 2nd or even 1st, the media still wouldn't report it. Plus, the delegates aren't committed to the 'presidential preference survey' which is all this was anyway, just a glorified straw poll. As far as I've heard we're winning with the amount of delagates that are representing ron paul at the state convention and thats all that matters in the long run.