A Democrat should win, if Ron Paul cannot....
Of course write - Ron Paul's name in when the time comes.... but Here is why I think we in the REVOLUTION should hope for a democrat to win, if Ron Paul cannot.
1st) First, the economic collapse is going to fall on someone, might as well be a democrat. The voting public will associate the democrats policy ideas with the economic collapse.
2nd ) Second, Republicans act like Conservatives when Democrats are in the white house...So I hope a Democrat wins.
3rd) I do not know about you, but I would REALLY like to get this WHITE Racism thing off our collective backs!!! I am so sick of it. You and I know it matters little, zero, but it will count for one thing, ending collective guilt for societal racism. Once Obama is in the white house, we can all say, Racism is effectively dead in America. Once Obama FAILS to be anti-war like his supporters THINK, then they will listen to the REVOLUTION next time in 2012.
When Obama FAILS to CHANGE things, then his supporters will listen to the REVOLUTION next time in 2012.
So, if Obama wins now = the Revolution wins later
Treg / Tempe, AZ
Voting for skin color
Voting for skin color IS rascism.
DEMOS GETTING 4 TIMES THE REPUBLICAN VOTES...
Even CNN and Fox HAVE noted that in the primaries the democrats are getting three to four times as many votes as the republicans... there is *no* way the republicans will win this time around....
LET GO THIRD PARTY AND PICK UP ALL THE DISSATISFIED VOTERS WHO WILL PICK RON PAUL AS THEIR ALTERNATIVE...
Stop Hating Democrats
You people that sit around and act like democrats are the "bad guys" are no more intelligent then those who won't hear out Ron's reasoning because it isn't the norm.
Democrats have run this country better than republicans in modern times and those of you that think it's still ok to try and sabotage or place blame on them are no better then the neocons.
I'm all for a dem winning, in fact if Ron doesn't run third party Obama will get my vote over any republican out there. He is simply a better choice. Corrupt? Maybe. Hard core liberal? Yes, but who cares?
The simple fact is the republican, democrat gap has closed, they are the same. Aside from the few meaningless arguments (outside of the wars of course) they are one central machine working against American people.
Wake up and stop playing their game.
Yer a nutcase
"Democrats have run this country better than republicans in modern times and those of you that think it's still ok to try and sabotage or place blame on them are no better then the neocons."
Oh Jesus....please smite this tribal goofy fool about the ears and ass. Please remind him which party governed well only in the early times and which party gave us the Federal Reserve and it's brilliant fractional reserve system, the depression, social security, Medicare, Vietnam, the instruction manual for the proper care and feeding of the military industrial complex, the department of education, the FDA and all of our other "successful" monetary and social programs that have lifted us to this position of power and grace that shall last for 1,000 years.
Wake the hell up. Democrats...my God. The reality is that they both suck but Jesus dude! Democrats run the country better? You need to get the stuff with seeds in it it's less powerful so it won't wack you out as much!
Nice
Nice showing of maturity, either way you bring up somewhat decent, yet meaningless points.
Do you even want me to name the things that the Bush administration ALONE has given us. It tops any of the socialized programs you mentioned.
Let me educate you in very simple terms. Democrats create large government to HELP THE PEOPLE. We know that those ideas don't work, but their intentions are almost always, as a whole, good. Not on an individual basis but as a whole.
The republican party creates large government to HURT THE PEOPLE. Regulations, destroying civil liberty, absolutely no religious tolerance, and most of all murderous wars.
A republican vote at this time is a vote for murder. A democratic vote is a vote for large governmental efforts that won't work. Only one of those can be fixed.
That is debatable ..
Your assumption that the democrats grow government "to help the people" is highly debatable.
Granted that is the rhetoric they use to sell the goods .. my parents told me that story over and over as a child .... but the actual motivation might be quite a bit different .. I personaly subscribe to the view that the core reasoning behind most EGALATARIAN actions is in fact self serving ..
Look up a guy named Norman Dodd or watch this for a teaser
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7373201783240489827
You Think The Dems Will Allow That?
They wont let you vote for Obama.
Its Hillary or the Highway .. Look at their "superdelegates".
The dems have been pre-selecting your choices since someone took aim at RFK and likely before ...
Just get used to saying "Yessah mastah" and you will be fine.
If I can't vote for Ron Paul
I WILL NOT VOTE !!!
If Ron Paul Can Not
Just remember that there are literally millions of people who think just like Ron Paul...they are called Libertarians...vote for the Libertarian Party candidate to send a strong message and allow more Libertarians to gain ballot access in future elections...consider joining the Libertartian Party!!!..
"It is seldom that liberty of any kind is lost all at once"...
David Hume
"It is seldom that liberty of any kind is lost all at once"...
David Hume
But do libertarians believe
But do libertarians believe that the war in Iraq war a mistake? do libertarians believe that we have too many overseas military bases? Do libertarians want to bring our troops home?
Please check out
www.antiwar.com It is a Libertarian site.
WE ARE GOING TO WIN!
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Umm,, yeah
Ever meet one that didnt?
Yep
That's my plan, too.
In talking with so many people during the course of this campaign, I truly believe we could start getting traction in local elections because so very many people are just fed up with the Republicans and Democrats. They just want to vote against our corrupt 2-party system.
Did They Let Jim Trafficant Out Of Prison?
He is the only Democrat I could ever listen to ... suppose thats why they locked him up .. Doing like 50 years for supposedly bilking taxpayers into roofing his barn .. umm, yeah right.
He probably has a cell right next to Noriega waiting for the plane ride to Guantanamo Bay ....
I'll fix them
I agree. If they screw Ron Paul, my plan is to get the sign of the Democrats nomination, attach it to my Ron Paul sign and go campaigning for Ron Paul and the Democrats at the same time. This will show the GOP that mistreatment has serious consequences(Blowback)
i got news for you a
i got news for you
a democrat WILL win if ron paul doesn't win
either way we're screwed if he doesn't win
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Just because
If Ron Paul doesn't get the nomination doesn't mean we should go support the side of socialism. We will have universal healthcare, subsidized college tuition, amnesty, and tax increases shoved down our throats. Our country will be sold out to the interests of class & minority warfare. Does no one here know of the Libertarian Party? The party paul ran with in 1988...I think this is the only alternative if Paul drops out. Vote on principle, not popularity or "the lesser of two evils".
Great and all...
That's great and all if you want to vote on principle with Ron Paul, I respect that.
However, when there are hundreds of thousands of people being murdered in an ethnic cleansing that we are leading, I'm going to vote for the person that gets us out and has the chance to win. Granted a vote for Ron is a vote away from Republicans, but a vote for a Democrat from a past Republican is much more substantial.
Very True
And that is being done by the UN, which the Iraq conflict is a UN Resolution, not a US declared war. YouTube: Agenda 21
UN says the planet can only sustain 50 million people, and it's the UN jobs to eliminate the rest...I call the UN the United Nazis.
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UN, Sure
I'm down with placing some blame on the U.N. but without the modern day U.S. Republican party we wouldn't be in this mess.
There were some that had insight, and only one was a Republican and that's why we supported him.
Haha
I guess its starting early. I was telling my friend the other day, that Obama being president would be White America's ace up the sleeve. It would be the answer to any claim of racism:
- "Hey that guy said he wouldn't give me a loan because I'm black!"
- "That's impossible, America voted for a black president, that proves that racism doesn't exist in the country anymore"
- "You're right, I must be mistaken."
-"Someone painted a huge swastika on my house!"
-"Well I'm sure the Ku Klux Klan was celebrating the election of president Obama by putting an Indian good luck symbol on your vehicle"
Seriously though. What if there isn't a later? People would want a crisis solved now. Which means they would embrace whatever band-aid solutions came along. Kind of like after 4 time president FDR showed us then, and Bush is showing us now. People might even think that electing a new party would be too risky, kind of like in the 2004 election.
IF SHE WAS THE LAST PERSON ON EARTH
I WOULD NOT VOTE FOR HILLARY
Write in Ron Paul...
But --for the Revolution's sake-- hope Obama wins the Presidency.
Come 2012, when there was NO CHANGE, we can then court all the Obama supporters over to the Revolution.... get it?
Treg / Tempe, AZ
Obama
I could vote for..Hillary, NEVER
Um
A vote for Obama IS a vote for Hillary.. do the research.
~Live life to its fullest, with an open heart, open arms and most important... an open mind~
A vote...
A vote for a republican is murder...do the research.
One thing is sure
Rest of the middle class will be wiped out in the following years.
And you thought this might just be a dog and pony show
this election...wait until 2012 when we are then the North American Union...LOL
No Internet (except for shopping and probably medical assistance since we won't be able to get into a Government run Doctors office), an increased police state...smile...youre on candid camera... etc. etc.
I will fill in RP's name
I will fill in RP's name and my guns loaded period
Good for you...
The revolution needs you...