America does not want change
Submitted by ykw54 on Tue, 02/05/2008 - 19:41
It is extremely distressing to be witnessing super tuesday. the very thought that McCain could win is cause enough to for me to feel ill.
Ron Paul has only four delegates .
Hope ? can anybody make a comment on how we can win?
I can`t contemplate having anybody else but RON for president.
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I think we are living in a time when a majority of citizens are becoming consciously and irredeemably detached from either party. I pray for a time to come when the "independent" voters are able to "declare their independence" and concentrate their political power instead of dissipating it away.
That day is not today, but can Ron Paul help give it birth...yes.
Perhaps, in the long run, that is why so many hearts are so profoundly on fire for a seemingly hopeless candidacy. The future is calling and the youth clearly see that a 72 year old conservative "Dr. No" is years ahead of his time. The death of the 2 party system may ultimately be Dr. Paul's legacy...this is new wine, to paraphrase another man in another time who appeared to lose everything miserably.
This is the beginning.
Human Nature Says
It will take a financial collapse to effect change. Witness the French Revolution, Germany in the 1920's, U.S. in the 1930's and the USSR in the 1990's. Human nature rarely changes. The financial collapse is closer than we think, especially if Saudi Arabia goes off the dollar peg.
Hitler won 98% of the popular vote.
I would much rather be RIGHT and in the minority. Trudge on. No one said it would be easy!
Become a delegate
http://ron-paul-campaign.blogspot.com/2008/02/super-tuesday-...
Does my burka make my butt look fatwa?
Godwin, party of one
Mr. Godwin, your thread is now ready.
America land of the sheep!
I just talked on the phone to a friend. He is an army vet. 14 years in the military. I have talked myself blue in the face with him. I have tried to get him to internet sites and to read books, but he says I am full of sh^%. That if all this is happening it would be on the news. Even tells me the wars that weren't declared were legal because congress approved funding for them. Unfortunately that is the mindset of most Americans. They just refuse to even think about researching the truth. But I believe we can win this. We have to.
America wants what it deserves
Socialism. A breakdown of US sovereignty. Surveillance state.
The US gets what it deserves.
A message to COLD FUSION
This is not a troll post , i have been a supporter of Ron longer that you have probably been alive , and when you feel like comparing donations sums let me know.
The only button that is left on is the one that makes your cold fusion brain remain in pernanent atrophy.
The intent of this forum is not negativity it is about the reality of all of our efforts to bring RON to the forefront while left to witness how disconnected the average voter is voting. Yes, it is still early to count numbers . Mine don`t come from watching the tube , I have been at my precinct all day not one supporter of Paul showed up with a sign or any thing else within the 75 foot zone reserved for supporters save me.
It looks like...
... 15-20% of us in America DO want change. Historians say it only takes 5% of the people to demand and to effect change. If each of us converts just one other voter then we're at 30-40%. Let's fill local and national political office's with Ron Paul Republicans (RPR's).
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Wake up voters??? Are you kidding???
That time has passed! It's time for a real revolution, Jefferson style! Look it up? He predicted this and said we'd need to shed some blood from time to time to keep Freedom alive in this Republic!
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"You take the blue pill and the story ends. You wake in your bed and believe whatever you want to believe. You take the red pill and you stay in Wonderland and I show you how deep the rabbit-hole goes. -- all I am offering is the truth, nothing more."
The next revolution will be with bullets
I agree 100%! This was our last chance at a peaceful revolution, the next one is with bullets! All this peaceful revolution crap is a waste of time imho, i mean look at vietnam war protests, there were more than a million people who marched on washington dc but yet the war still continued. When the iraq war started there were millions upon millions of people who protestede and marched worldwide but yet the war continued. Imagine if each of those million was shouldering a rifle during those protests! The outcome of those marches would have been much different i bet!
Unfortunately a real revolution will ONLY occur when we first have a financial collapse because people are WAY too comfortable in their mortgaged mcmansions and their financed $40,000 SUV's and their financed 40" big screen tv's. Only when you take away all that they think they own and when they have no job, food or a place to live will a REAL revolution even be possible.
That day is sooner than most people think and i for one welcome it!
Amen!
I had to check your name to make sure I didn't write this myself.
Ask Not What Your Country Can Do For You, But What Your Country Is Doing To You.
The Only Thing We Have To Fear, Is Government Itself.
WAKE UP AMERICA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I have been commenting on this sight for a couple of days warning that Dr Paul cannot win in the republican party. Some folks have taken offense to my WAKE UP AMERICA call, but we the people need to wake up.
I have been and still am advocating that Dr Paul should run an independent campaign for the white house.
I believe it is our country's last hope.
WAKE UP AMERICA BEFORE IT IS TOO LATE !!!!!!!!!!
We will starve and bleed before it is all over with.
KT
KT
shut up kt
shut up kt
We just need 5 wins and primaries/caucases go to May.
Bump
gigione
America is in denial and is self-destructing...
Could it be Karma???
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"You take the blue pill and the story ends. You wake in your bed and believe whatever you want to believe. You take the red pill and you stay in Wonderland and I show you how deep the rabbit-hole goes. -- all I am offering is the truth, nothing more."
4?
before super tuesday even started it was my impression that paul had 6 we can't go down from there.....
"and the truth shall make you free"
John 8:32
What all these sheep and
What all these sheep and dumbf&#ks need to be made aware of, is that they are going to get change WHETHER THEY WANT IT OR NOT! I keep hammering away at people about this! The only questions are, just what KIND of change are they going to get, and are they going to help decide which kind., or just keep being passive sheep and MSM robots?
you cant win - you cant lose
(Assuming Diebold doesnt hack the vote again)
This isnt a competition. It's not a contest.
It's a calculation, to determine who the majority of Americans want.
And if the majority want a fascist (or socialist) dictator instead of responsible liberty-loving leader.. well.. that's democracy for ya. That's democracy in action. That's democracy.. I hate to say it, but.. working.
Democracy isnt designed to give you the best candidate. Only the most popular one. So long as that happens, democracy has done its job. If you want change in opposition to that, you have to change public opinion.
And that's not an election-year process. It's an unending process, every day, every month, every year. Not just during an election season. We need to be promoting and selling liberty ALL THE TIME. Because liberty requires self-sufficiency and self-restraint - two values all but extinguished in our culture now.
Promote self-sufficiency and self-restraint, in all your affairs. Be an example of them. Encourage them in others. Do this regardless of whether RP wins or not. We have elections every 2 years, y'know.
Elections, ultimately, arent about the candidates. They're about the people. If the people choose RP, that's who they chose. If they choose McCain or Obama or Hillary, that's who they chose. The democracy is anything more than a means to an end, if it's a principle unto itself, then we have to respect its result.
And if their chosen then violates the Constitution, or their oath of office, or otherwise makes unforgivable mistakes - the public should hold their chosen responsible. Because ultimately it is the public who are responsible.
That is what representative government means - WE are responsible for what is done in our name by our representatives. We're responsible for the good, and for the evil.
Some of us dont just get involved in politics for a few months every 4 years, you know. We're in this all year round, every year. We used to call that "civic responsibility".
-Van
The ONLY thing that will
The ONLY thing that will bring sense to people is despair.
Ask Not What Your Country Can Do For You, But What Your Country Is Doing To You.
The Only Thing We Have To Fear, Is Government Itself.
Well said. That's how
Well said. That's how democracy works. Except, strangely - the founders had not kind words for democracy. In fact, they called what they created a Constitutional Republic, and clearly distinguished it from a democracy. Here's an interesting video that has been posted to this site before and deserves to be posted again:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RTQQJOEn9yI
Or watch the whole thing on google video.
We Want It !!!!
We don't need them.
We are smarter and much more powerfull than the majority.
We are Liberty loving Individuals than won't take no for an answer.
We Will Win .........
jakofharts
Yes, we do need the majority
What part of "democracy" dont you understand?
People like you scare me, because you love your own liberty but rarely do I see any love for the liberty of others who are significantly different from yourselves.
"We are smarter and much more powerfull than the majority."
You are delusional. Where is this power? I dont see it. Without the majority, I rather doubt Ron Paul would want to win. That would be a stolen election, or a military coup. If you want that, join the Bush camp and whomever they're endorsing. That's their style, not Dr. Paul's.
-Van
News Flash
Most Americans aren't interested in libertarianism, that is, in freedom for all. They're more interested in a nanny state. Paul isn't a mainstream candidate. He's trying to bring libertarianism into the mainstream, more than winning the election. So don't expect much or you'll be really disappointed..
That is it
sadly, most Americans are not informed and will not take the time to do so... they are already used to being told what to think and do,,,the fact that we have such a huge amount of people that are informed and trying to get the message out is the purpose and the WIN of this whole election... I pray that we stay strong and realize this is a very long struggle and have made huge steps to awakening personal responsibility to continue our efforts! This is a turning point..be involved be informed...work on your local and state levels to gain power!
"I think we are living in a world of lies: lies that don't even know they are lies, because they are the children and grandchildren of lies." ~ Chris Floyd
3 Requirements for Ron Paul to Win as 3rd Party
1. Democrat Candidate = Hitlery
2. Republican Candidate = McAnus
3. Economy Goes to Hell and people start to feel the pain.
Ask Not What Your Country Can Do For You, But What Your Country Is Doing To You.
The Only Thing We Have To Fear, Is Government Itself.
3. wont help you
If the economy collapses, everyone will blame Bush and rush to the Dems in a panic for salvation.
-Van
Wrong
Ron Paul has exactly the same chances of winning a third party ticket as you do if you start right now. A third party run is an unworkable fantasy.. I don't see why you people just don't do the research.
~Live life to its fullest, with an open heart, open arms and most important... an open mind~
I didn't say he would win, I
I didn't say he would win, I said these were requirements - His only chance. Even many of the morons in this country realize that McAnus and Hitlery are the same person. They will be looking for someone else to vote for. As far as the economy, I'm not talking about a little recession, I am talking about Great Depression #2 (Also known as Fantastic Depression). It may not occur in time for RP to win, but if it does (which could be started very shortly by Mideast bailing out from the dollar) then all bets are off on your unworkable fantasy. Research more and open your mind before basing this election on elections in the past. The future may look nothing like you have seen in the past.
And before you respond back, I do realize that there will not be much that RP will be able to do if sh*t does hit the fan. But, he will still be the best man for the job.
Ask Not What Your Country Can Do For You, But What Your Country Is Doing To You.
The Only Thing We Have To Fear, Is Government Itself.
Of course they do... and that is what they will end up with...
Change.... pocket change that is.
And... Trailer for sale or rent, rooms to let fifty cents No phone, no pool, no pets, I ain't got no cigarettes.
Good old uncle Roger summed it up pretty well... just people thought he was being historical when really he was being prophetic!
Guys please stop with this negative shit, this is a long fight
Have some faith damn it. Stop fluttering. People are expecting McCain and Romney to run aay with all of these, if they don't it will seriously weaken their support.
"Endless money forms the sinews of war." - Cicero, www.freedomshift.blogspot.com