I say we Fight
Submitted by bigdaddyGA on Tue, 02/05/2008 - 21:14
I don't give a damn what most people say, I think we need to migrate to a specific area, and in concentration, we fight. Passive aggression is bullsh!t. From my count (very unscientific and arbitrary), we have almost 2,000,000 people. Scattered across 50 states, that seems like a little, but together and concentrated, this is a very large number. Shit this country sh!ts itselfe over 30 or 40,000 islamists. Sack up, entrench and fight back.
That or I will move to Alaska and live in the wilderness and live an intellectually enlightened life.
PEACH OUT :)
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New Hampshire is the place
New Hampshire is the place to go. A few thousand have moved in the Free State Project already. freestateproject.org
I want to figure out how to
I want to figure out how to use the paul campaign to impeach corrupt judges. I think the greatest changes fast would be impeaching judges, make them follow the constitution. If you have time attend court cases and if your a witness to a judge breaking a law sue him. Lets beat them at thier own game. I want to sue child support too!! How about we each sponsor a judge to impeach!!!
It is not over yet
And even if we do not get the presidency, if we stay united, like the grassfire website devotes themselves to the anti-amnesty cause, we can still make a difference.
The economy is getting worse. We can take one of Dr. Paul's messages, like ending the empire building, and make it an issue.
Make it a "take care of America first" issue. People will have to see we are right, especially when they are going broke with this empire building and foreign aid.
Just feed the sheep one issue at a time. We can bombard the congress, just like grassfire does.
sounds like a plan
run from your problems.
Not running
My view is more long-term, in the short-term I am trying to run in my state, I am trying to raise money so I can join Dr. Paul in Congress. I don't know if I will be successful, but I will work my ass off and try.
Long term, I say fight; how is that cowardice, I see it as the opposite.
Do we realize how difficult
Do we realize how difficult it would be to assemble? With all their wire taps & spying on emails/computers that would guarantee a nearly impossible possibility.
Add on to that their cutbacks on ammo production...it won't matter how many guns you have, they're just expensive hammers without the ammo.
If we're going to do something ever, then the gameplan should be in the works, no?
Bunch of anti-government people grouping together...
Homeland Security would definitely step in if we try to do this.
Yes
and for all we know the F B I and C I A have all of our email addresses in thier database. With the stuff they have, they may have even tracked down our individual residences. I'm thinking I would like to have my posts deleted and my name removed just in case. Am I being paranoid?
What can be said of a people who would sell their own children into slavery, using the rational that it is to protect their freedom?
Draft Ron paul And Pat Buchanan to run third party
http://www.digg.com/politics/Draft_Ron_paul_And_Pat_Buchanan...
Listen to Pat go off on the NWO and a great RP Promo vid
"All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent" Thomas Jefferson
"All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent" Thomas Jefferson
Here's a wonderful video with Al Pacino connecting to Ron Paul
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wQNIS3WfLUo
The writing is on every wall! If you don't see it you're blind in your soul! Even the blind can see this!
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"You take the blue pill and the story ends. You wake in your bed and believe whatever you want to believe. You take the red pill and you stay in Wonderland and I show you how deep the rabbit-hole goes. -- all I am offering is the truth, nothing more."
Carlyle group and Haliburton are in the process of....
...stealing our army and its weapons. They are trying to move every tank and bomber to the gulf and take over every oil country and use the armory that we built with our hands and taxes to defend their new property. Are you starting to get it yet? Wake up. This is ALL about the queen. If you dont know why i would say that then you better see this: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1866496783791986992&...
Then start here and work your way down the list for the most accurate and detailed explanation of every thing you need to know to undertsan the reality of the human condition.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gAcxGD6-c-E
Watch the whole series or live in denial and ignorance. No offense.
Okay I'm pissed too, but...
Our forefathers couldn't vote. They fought and died so we could. I don't think that any of them would have fought a revolution if they could have run for office, and changed things themselves peacefully. Have we really done all we can peacefully? Maybe you have been at this longer, but I just heard about Dr Paul a few months ago. Many of us just started this, and I for one have a lot more voting and canvassing to do before I start shooting people.
I still have hope
But it is fading. I believe, make no mistake, I just refuse to give up!
NH FREESTATE - YEAH RIGHT, RON PAUL 5TH PLACE BS!
WTF!
R3VOLUTION - Secret Crowds
this is retarded
I come to this site to learn about ron paul in the news, about the efforts to get his name out, and about his campaign. Not about people whining and going off about how a violent revolt is needed. We're trying to attract voters, not scare them away with stupid crap about how we are going to form our own country or become mountain men and seclude ourselves from the world. This pretty much wasn't even worth replying to because now I want the 2 minutes of my life back that I just spent replying to this post.
Revolution
The revolution needs 2 fronts. One to play with paper and pen and the other to take it to the ground.
By your handle, I take it you know just as much if not more than me, but my basic premise was to state that faith in the system is lost. To hope and pray that we all get together and vote and we make a change is one thing, I for one think we need to consider our alternatives.
I do not speak for everyone here, I am but a lone voice of discontent that would rather take it to a different level. I understand that most will not accept this, but I take liberty in my right to speak my malcontent.
Sorry for your 2 minutes of sacrifice.
Here: it's all an illusion! You have your 2 minutes back!
Make better use of them!
"You take the blue pill and the story ends. You wake in your bed and believe whatever you want to believe. You take the red pill and you stay in Wonderland and I show you how deep the rabbit-hole goes. -- all I am offering is the truth, nothing more."
"You take the blue pill and the story ends. You wake in your bed and believe whatever you want to believe. You take the red pill and you stay in Wonderland and I show you how deep the rabbit-hole goes. -- all I am offering is the truth, nothing more."
i totally agree...this kind
i totally agree...this kind of bullshit will just ruin the real revolution for Ron Paul
Revolution isn't made of flowers and candy
I support Dr. Paul and am not a radical, racial or fanatical supporter. I am simply feed up with what I perceive as an uphill battle that we can not win in a fair battle.
I hope like hell I am wrong, and I will be the first to admit as much, but I am tired of the BS. I don't want to encumber the revolution, I want to empower it to a lasting state that exceeds November.
I honestly want a change and feel it can not be peacefully achieved. If you all prove me wrong, I will be the first to say I was wrong. Otherwise, I will not let go and if you all ever feel the same way, you know where to come to unite.
That is all
well
atleast i have found one replier to my comment who has logic.
I believe I have logic
You agreement with my logic does not make my logic irrelevant. I was being nice and was attempting to have a civil debate. Sorry if you saw it differently.
Free State Project
It's called the Free State Project. Been in the planning for years.
http://www.freestateproject.org/
20,000 people to move to New Hampshire and through force of numbers create an overnight electoral majority dedicated to Libertarian reform.
They have 8,205 people so far. 12,000 more and it's a go. So if you're serious, join them. And if you're not serious, you won't.
-Van
Free State Project? You couldn't even deliver the state for RP
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This is silly. If we
This is silly. If we concentrate ourselves geographically then nothing will stop the powers that be from attacking the new "terrorist nation". We have made major strides with the campaign in waking up new people. We need to shift over into education, simplify the message and continue to break the "mind control" among the majority of the population. We have shown ourselves to be about 10% of the populous. If we can get to 20% in the next year, then 40% the year after we can really make a difference.
This campaign was only the beginning of the fight.
"Freedom suppressed and again regained bites with keener fangs than freedom never endangered." -- Cicero
I agre 100%
But 2 million people is nothing in a country of 350 million. I understand your stance, but I don't want this to take 100 years. My children won't even be here by then
BRING IT ON!
R3VOLUTION - Secret Crowds
I just want to make this
I just want to make this clear people. A revolt is NEVER pretty. It is not easy, and a LOT of people always get hurt. You really need to consider what you're advocating. I'm all about a revolt if it becomes absolutely necessary, but... is it?
Ron Paul is my hero :)
With all due respect
Is it not? We have killed 1 1/2 million civilians in Iraq, we are taxing the middle class at almost 1/2 of there salary and no relief is in sight.
Like I said, "I'm for it if
Like I said, "I'm for it if it's absolutely necessary," but people need to understand! You can't say these kind of things without thinking there's not going to be some reaction! People are calling for C4!!! Don't say stuff like this unless you've weighed the consequences and understand that this is what the "establishment" will call "terrorism!" I ask again, is this the time to call for a real, physical revolution!?
If it is, why are you typing at a computer? Why aren't you on the street revolting? I don't believe you guys know what this really entails. I would suggest reading up on the revolutionary war. It was HELL! Look overseas at the people who revolt. They end up being suppressed and cut down. The government is an extremely powerful enemy and unless there are enough people who feel it is necessary, all that will happen is that you'll be arrested for terrorism! Take a look at our government's efforts to supress things of this nature in H.R. 1955. Don't think they won't use these sudo "laws" to convict you and throw you right in jail.
Ron Paul is my hero :)
I agree
Never called for C4, that was someone else. I was simply trying to hedge my bets and get a group organized, so I wouldn't go to jail. I would say there has been plenty of examples to strike the chord, we simply need to look for them.
I'm almost to the point of saying eff it, let just sit back and whine because we didn't get our way. that is the most peaceful and easiest course. We don't wont to piss off anyone who would want to call us crazies .