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HERE IS THE DELEGATE PROCESS...from an official campaign coordinator

I am an official coordinator for the campaign here is the delegate process with a brief explanation of what a delegate is at the begining.

Everyone - when a candidate wins delegates by winning a primary that does not mean there are actual people won acting as delegates- these are virtual delegates.

What do I mean by virtual delegates: A virtual delegate is just a number - there are no actual people YET that will go and vote for the candidate who won the particular state at the national convention. We call these people convention delegates

The actual delegates are voted on (in most states) at a statewide delegate caucus after the Primary (which is just a giant preference poll) Who can be delegates? Anyone. In closed Primary states they must be registered Republicans, in Open Primary states they can be Republicans, Democrats, Independents.

In our Missouri county we had about 25,000 vote on the Republican side last night in the Primary but in the last delegate caucus 4 years ago there were less than 150 people that showed up to become delegates. DO YOU GET IT

Normally Convention Delegates do not matter because the convention is not brokered and we have a clear winner. BUT THIS YEAR IS DIFFERENT. Do you see how the ronpaul campaign strategy will work.

Most people have no idea how this works, not even the media.

It is not advertised much, maybe just a single newspaper ad.

to learn how to become a convention delegate contact your local Ron Paul coordinator. (NOT YOUR MEETUP ORGANIZOR)

STEP1. Contact your OFFICIAL Ron Paul Coordinator for your state. go to www.ronpaul2008.com

STEP2 Your State Coordinator will tell you when and where your
county caucus is to become a delegate or where to vote for a Ron Paul Delegate and who to contact prior to the county caucus.

STEP3 At the caucus you will vote for or run for a delegate position
to your STATE Republican Convention. Some state have District Caucuses between the county caucus and the State Convention.
The object is to get more Ron Paul supporters from every county to the district Caucus or State Convention.

STEP5 Attend the state convention as a delegate to choose
NATIONAL delegates to the Republican National Convention in Minnesota. These will be the delegates that are bound to vote for whoever won your state ON THE FIRST VOTE.

STEP6 The NATIONAL delegates elected at your state convention will vote in Minnesota for the Republican Nominee. If after the first vote no candidate gets 51% of the vote, then the National Delegates from your state are free to vote for whoever they want.
These will be Ron Paul supporters because you showed up to vote for them to become delegates or you are a delegate.

I hope this helps




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If you have a caucus coming

If you have a caucus coming up, learn this, know this, breath this. Watch the videos and join up with the Ron Paul precinct leader site on ronpaul2008.com

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The Retrocon
Hope for America, Ron Paul for President in 2008!

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Hope for America, Ron Paul for President in 2008!

Huckabee

Huckabee is probably our best bet for a brokered convention. I saw him on super tuesday night and he said that he wasn't going to give up because it is about the size of the fight in the dog and not the size of the dog in the fight. He might have more size than us but we have more fight than him. He is going to try to get the convention to a second vote and I think he stands a good chance of getting that accomplished for us. We have to be prepared so when that happens Ron's support is stronger than his. This is the right thing to do and we can be savvy enough to do it. Lets let the Christian rite part the republican seas and allow us to march to victory and freedom!!

How to get past first vote?

Here's the part that's not connecting with me, and I invite someone to weigh in. Let's set aside the "five state" rule and assume we get by it some how. Here's what I'm seeing:

1. Let's say we send a giant number of delegates to the national convention,- 80% of all delegates (exagerrated for the sake of this question).

2. They are obliged to vote on the 1st vote for whoever won their state's primary, then they can vote for Ron Paul on the 2nd and subsequent votes.

3. John McCain presently has about 60% of, what appears to me to be, the OBLIGATED ("virtual") delegates that these people must vote for on the first round.

4. Since GOP primaries are mostly "winner takes all", I see McCain's lead staying the same or growing through the remaining primaries, but acknowledge that this could change, however unlikely. The GOP and MSM will work non-stop to guarantee this.

5. At the convention, due to the OBLIGATION, McCain wins the first vote, nomination process over.

This is how it looks to me. I have no intention of giving up in my efforts to change the world, be it in politics, economics or in my work in the natural health movement. What I'm seeing is a John McCain victory on the 1st vote, not a brokered convention. I welcome contrarian views. I do not speak as a pessimist or skeptic nor do I think it wise to quit or launch out on a 3rd party ticket. I see making some real noise leading up to and at the convention the best course to take and want to know how this might happen if, after the primary season, over 50% of "obliged" votes go to McCain.

McCain Does Not Have Even As Many Obligated Delegates as It Seem

The delegate count that the media reports is an *estimate* based on primary results. They list Ron Paul as having 16 obligated delegates, when he really has at least 42, for instance. So, McCain still does not have enough delegates to win in the first round.

This is also why we need to keep fighting. There are 19 more states that need to vote.

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I'm an organizer too.

Lancaster County, NE.
If you're official please contact me thru the local meetup group. I'm an asst. organizer. The "official" campaign hasn't really responded to me when I reached out.
We're still here anyway and I do need to talk to someone in the campaign so we can coordinate.
Looking forward to the convention in the Twin Cities and the rebirth of the GOP.

Don't wait for someone to contact you!

Call ASAP

Nebraska Republican Party
1610 N Street
Lincoln, NE 68508
Phone: 402-475-2122
Toll Free: 800-829-3459
Fax: 402-475-3541
Email: info@negop.org
Roster: http://www.negop.org/leadership.asp

RonPaul2008 - 703-248-9115 (They ALWAYS answer)

Obama = O.ne B.ig A.ss M.istake A.merica

MAJOR problem with this...

Is that in many states (including Wisconsin -- you know Green Bay Packers! With a primary upcoming on Feb 19th and caucuses happening like... well, NOW!)

In many of the states, the "OFFICIAL Ron Paul Coordinator" is as mythical as a proverbial "Libertarian Billionaire" -- in short, they just do NOT exist.

And when someone like me (who runs 2 meetups and the statewide "Meta-Meetup" for the other organizers) calls the campaign Headquarters... I get stuck on hold for anywhere from 5 to 10 minutes while they rummage around (again) and try to figure who to dump me off on (checking back occasionally and hopefully to see if -- they wish -- I have hung up in frustration).

Eventually they realize unless they just hang up on me (in which case I will just call back again) their only option is to tell me some BS answer and transfer me to leave (yet another) message in yet another voice mailbox.

So this type of posting or suggestion really doesn't help.

Are you a delegate?

What is it you need? Your post didn't really say. Do you want someone to call you back? Are you wanting to become a delegate or are you already one?

Wisconsin State Elections Board
17 West Main Street, Suite 310
PO Box 2973
Madison, Wisconsin 53701-2973
Phone: 608-266-8005 FAX: 608-267-0500
seb@seb.state.wi.us

Obama = O.ne B.ig A.ss M.istake A.merica

bedr1 = Official Coordinator????

You, bedr1, are an "official coordinator" for Ron Paul 2008 PCC?

A straight yes or no, please.

no response???

I've gotten no response here. This guy is claiming to officially represent the campaign and I'd like clarification on that, please.

For what its worth............

his member number is 833 and he has been a daily paul member for 32.5 weeks - thats pretty credible.

Liberty is not free, It must be earned!

Liberty is not free, It must be earned!

Thanks for posting this!

I'm in SoDak and have been trying to figure this out!!

www.rprradio.com

When freedom is at stake, silence is not golden – it is yellow- Tom Anderson writer patriot. 1910-2001

"Any people that would give up liberty for a little temporary safety deserves neither liberty nor safety." Benjamin Franklin

When freedom is at stake, silence is not golden – it is yellow- Tom Anderson writer patriot. 1910-2001

"Any people that would give up liberty for a little temporary safety deserves neither liberty nor safety." Benjamin Franklin

The system is broken: www.ronpaulrising.com

WE MUST GO 3rd party.

Sign up with Ron Paul Rising to begin the ballot access effort this weekend.

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Sign the petition! Spread the word!

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Last night at our precinct

Last night at our precinct caucus in colorado I was elected as a county delegate, 1st alternate congressional delegate and a state delegate.
I hope with these delegate positions I can help Ron Paul win the nomination! from what I am hearing, Ron Paul won a huge amount of delegates last night in Colorado.. many Ron Paul supporters were elected as delegates in their precincts.. To the States who have not yet had there caucus.. you must canvass your precinct and volunteer to be a delegate! RON PAUL IN 08!

Brokered Convention

The party clearly doesn’t want Ron Paul. Don’t blame Fox News entirely – except for the NH GOP, the party has never protested in his behalf or demanded any sort of fair play. They wish he would just go away so there WON’T be a brokered convention to make the GOP candidate look weak in the general election. To show party strength and unity, brokered conventions are usually avoided by losing candidates compelling their delegates to vote for the front-runner. So who would support RP? Romney? McCain? Not on your life. A “brokered convention” is a PC way of saying, ‘deal-cutting.’ The idea is to get a candidate as left of center as possible to attract some Dems to the GOP in November and, if successful, will be able to work with Congress. And how does Congress react to RP? They ignore him more than the media does. As I see it, we either win on the vote or we don’t win at all and that doesn’t seem possible. Will someone please explain how a brokered convention could possibly work in our favor?

DONT GIVE UP

We can do it. The sheeple that believe in hiliary and mcinsane and mr change obama have no real reason to do so. We just need to keep getting Ron Pauls message out. The economy is crashing Ron Paul has the answers. Ron Pauls book is coming out this april. its 20 bucks. im buying 5 and handing them out to friends and family. Do the same. Its the 3 rd round of a 12 round fight.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! keep fighting!!!!!!!

It's not over - not by a long shot

I get the distinct impression that this is where we've been cleaning up. You won't hear about it, it won't be reported, it's not reflected in the GOP delegate counts, because those counts are for the Virtual Delegates mentioned above.

This is the genius of the precinct captain system. We don't need major exposure for this, we just need a relatively small number of dedicated people on the ground, active in their community, bringing along enough people to vote for them. This has been happening all over the country.

Once we get past that first vote in St Paul there's going to be a lot of very suprised people when they see how many dedicated Ron Paul supporters are present. I may be wrong - I don't pretend to be all-knowing on this - but this is the underlying message that's being delivered between the lines by the Paul campaign, as far as I'm concerned. They're playing the system right down to the wire and if this all proves to be correct, what an unbelievable coup this will have been!

Please go out and get involved in the precinct captains scheme. This race is not over, and whatever happens in St Paul - if we have the precinct captains slots filled then we will have a massive network of dedicated, organised individuals on the ground who can either be mobilized to take the presidency for the republican party or who can stage a bid to take it from both of the big two when Dr Paul announces his third party bid. Either way, we're still very much in this thing. Keep the faith, my friends.

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Live Free or Die - Amen to that

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Live Free or Die - Amen to that

Rule 40

Rule 40 ONLY makes a difference on the first round of voting. After that, that rule goes out the door - its a free for all.

It is over

I have given $750 to Ron Paul over the past couple months, and I am going to my state convention because I believed in this plan, but no longer.

His name will not even be placed into nomination at the GOP National Convention in Minneapolis. Without a majority of delegates in at least five states, he won't even get the few minutes allowed for a token nomination speech. Delegates can vote for Paul, but those votes will simply be recorded as abstentions.

Get it? Even if this 'brokered convention" thing happens Ron Paul hasn't got enough delegates to even be on the ballot at the National Convention in Minneapolis. Think he may still get them? Yesterday Ron Paul got less than 6% in most states. I don't think the surge is coming. Everyone keeps telling me it is coming, it was suppose to happen two weeks ago, then Super Tuesday... but it isn't going to happen.

It is over for Ron Paul. You are welcome for the $750 my friend.

How on earth...

do you know this??? Are you psychic? No one knows this. All the delegates McCain got may well be Ron Paul supporters & vote for him at the convention. Or Romney's.
NO. ONE. KNOWS.
Ron Paul has enough to qualify & stay in.

BTW - thanks for the $750.00!!!

Obama = O.ne B.ig A.ss M.istake A.merica

Are you serious?

After everything we discuss in here you didn't actually believe they would let Dr. Paul win any state did you? I didn't have any expectations or delusions of grandeur, I fully expected this to take place, but I know the revolution is growing daily. You didn't expect 100 years of tyranny to just lay down and let us take our country back did you? And at the first sign of difficulty you're done? Wow! I am going to apologize for what I'm about to say in advance, but go cry in the corner on your own time. I don't have time to cheer you pussies up every time Ron Paul is crapped on and I'm sick of all the whiners! WAKE UP THIS IS A FUCKIN BATTLE!!! And these scums of the earth that we are up against are dead serious! There is a ton of money to be lost by these bastards if someone like Dr. Paul experiences any kind of success so know this ahead of time, prepare for them to put you down and to put down the revolution but persevere. They aren't amused by the damage we have already done, the seeds have been planted and these neocon pricks are scrambling to salvage their control. They are moving to fast and are now being exposed at an alarming rate so how do we react?? We quit and let them off the hook, for god sake people this isn't some quaint little hobby, this is our children's future and the very future of our country that is at stake you still don't realize this? Just because Dr. Paul doesn't present his message with a screaming fervor don't let this mislead you when he says were headed for a total breakdown of the dollar, he isn't chicken little saying the sky is falling. IT IS FALLING!! The evidence is plain to see, we are in deep shit right now and Ron Paul is the only solution. We don't have next time, we are going to be plunged into all out freaking war judging by the policies that all the other candidates are currently offering up. Why? because the whole lot of them are owned by the people who stand to profit the most when we are plunged into this perpetual fighting. The economy for you and me will die but the profits from war materials will be at all time highs for them. Our jobs will dry up because our manufacturing base has been shipped overseas, this is it folks. There are only 2 ways to create wealth, speculation ( as in the stock market) or production (as in actually making things to sell). How long do you think it will take for grocery stores to start dry up? then how will you feed your family? we don't know how to farm anymore we are totally dependent on the current system. They have us by the short and curly's and they know it cause a little depression and we will all be begging our government to help us. Then the average wage will drop to nothing because unemployment will be rampant and the fierce competition for jobs will ensue and the war profiteers win again with cheap labor here in the United States!! I WILL NEVER QUIT, I WILL NEVER SUBMIT TO THESE SCUM SUCKING BASTARDS, BECAUSE I REALIZE WHAT'S AT STAKE HERE, EVERYTHING!!!
Now you Nancy boys can pull up your skirts and join the revolution in earnest or crouch down and lick the feet of your new master who ever they may be just so long as you get your daily rations. The decision is yours to make!
The only reason someone comes here and cries because we didn't have a favorable turnout as determined by the mainstream media who hate what we stand for in the first place, do so because they want sympathy or to be consoled that they are doing the right thing blah blah blah. Well if you haven't decided for yourself where your loyalty lies how are you supposed to project anything positive to the masses of people who have not had the great fortune of hearing Dr. Paul's message and actually understanding what it means?
Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. We didn't pass it to our children in the bloodstream. It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them to do the same, or one day we will spend our sunset years telling our children and our children's children what it was once like in the United States where men were free.

Ronald Reagan (1911 - 2004)

If this is the caliber of individual you are that at every turn you need reassurances and coddling then step aside, “Is life so dear, or peace so sweet, as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? . . .I know not what course others may take; but as for me, give me liberty or give me death.”

Warmest Regards
Stephen Dupont
New Bedford, Massachusetts

Very well said. One line

Very well said. One line hit home for me, "How long do you think it will take for grocery stores to start dry up? The last two weeks I have see this starting to happen already. I shop on the East Coast at a store called Price Chooper. It's a fairly large chain here and the shelves are getting a little sparce. The meat department as well. I haven't seen a slow down in produce but can goods, dry goods, things like that. Now it could be one of two things. The people are stocking or the product isn't getting to the store. I don't know what it is but it concerns me.

THEY CAN NEVER TAKE OUR FREEDOM

Amen to that Eyes Wide Open!

We (As in the Entire Western World) are in Big trouble, The economy is the basis for everything within society, No running economy, No Money, No Food!

DO YOU GET IT YET!!!

Freedom isn't something that can be taken easily! This is something we have to fight for! This IS the fight of Humanity, For thousands of years now, man has been fighting for his rights to freedom! But only in the last few hundred years has man had any true freedom, and now it is all about to disappear again! AND YOU ARE GOING TO LET IT BY GIVING UP!

You people who feel you are weak and can not go on, need to watch Rocky Balboa it is a great movie, with an even better message!

NEVER GIVE UP! The day you give up is the day you begin to Die!

"Life is hard and it will knock you down, but it is not about how hard you get knocked down, its about how far you keep going forward after you get knocked down that matters." - Rocky Balboa

Hey EyesWideOpen thank you for that.

*** God bless Ron Paul ***
* Ron Paul For President *

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*** God bless Ron Paul ***
* Ron Paul For President *

Nowhere else to go.

I am, like many, disheartened, knocked down, and disappointed. I have even gone so far as to use the word exanimate! But I will eventually pick myself up from the ground and march on, keeping to the plan as far as i am able and understand it. If for no other reason then there is no place else to go. ALL of the other candidates represent the death and downfall of this country. Either by loss of sovereignty, or by collapse of the economy, or both! If we loose we don't loose an election we loose AMERICA. I have to admit I would like to walk away go and hide under my pillow until I have no pillow anymore but how can I can dessert when I know what is at stake. In this way we are far worse off then those at valley forge since they know not what country they would receive when the fighting was done and yet we who do know let it slip away by inches until nothing but the name remains of our country.

We are not defined by our name but by our principles and our actions. When these do not align we are hypocritical. I grew up learning about my awesome country and the principles it stood for but today I just don't see it by our actions and am embarrassed to be an American because of it. I will not be embarrassed for another 4 years I need to fight to know that I am not a part of THAT america but of the true AMERICA and to its pledge that we ARE one nation under God, indivisible, with LIBERTY and JUSTICE for ALL. That we ARE FREE and we are FAIR here and abroad and you cant be fair if you take sides! We cant promote FREEDOM by funding and installing dictators with the use of the CIA in other countries. Just like we cant be Free by passing laws that empower the government at home to spy and detain people without the right to be charged or released. (habius corpus) And we cant be fair if we take by force from one person to benefit another.

So as Reagan once said "If we loose freedom here there is no place left."

Ok, I am done ranting...

No NO No

That rule only applies to the first round of voting, after that it is a free for all. It will be a brokered convention and they can nominate anyone who has filed to run for President on the Republican Party ticket.
Now it would be important to be on the ballot in all 50 states, otherwise you couldn't get delegates from the states you were not the ballot at - but that doesn't matter because Ron Paul is on in all 50 states.

As far as the nomination speech, thats up to the GOP. When Pat Buchanan ran in 1996 and won a whole lot of states with over 5 million votes, they did not let him speak. It has nothing to do with the delegates.

In Ron Paul's case they will definately let him speak, because they want his delegates. The other candidates will demand it. He will have a role because we will have the delegates.