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Why Ron Paul did *best* in NH

Here, thanks to some number crunchers from the FSP who live in NH, is another way to see that NH actually did have a higher percent that one might think:

First, NO other state with a Primary shows Ron Paul Paul over 7%

New Hampshire - 8%
New York - 7%
Michigan & Tennessee - 6%

Before any results were in, Jason Sorens, FSP founder, stated:

You have to distinguish between caucuses and primaries. In caucuses turnout is vastly lower, so Ron Paul does better there since his supporters are more likely to turn out than other candidates'. NH will in the end have the highest Ron Paul votes as a percentage of eligible voting population of all states, and the highest percentage of actual votes for all primary states, I predict. [Feb 5 at 12:32:10 pm]


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There's No Need to Take This as a Slight

First let me say that I live in New Hampshire, and while I hoped Dr. Paul would do better, I am proud that so far we had the best results of any primary.
This article isn't a put down to any other state. NY did well, and folks in the caucus states knew how to play the game. Dr. Paul was a lot closer to winning in North Dakota, Alaska, Minnesota, and even Iowa.
Everyone who worked so hard for Dr. Paul deserves a lot of praise.

This article is a plug for the Free State Project, and if you don't know what that is go to and check it out. The idea is to concentrate 20,000 pro-liberty activists in New Hampshire, and by concentrating our efforts, maximize effect. I think a lot of Paul supporters are looking for "Liberty in our Lifetime" and should consider the FSP.

All that being said. Our chances of winning the GOP nomination are small this time around. For future contests it is important to know where the peope support Dr. Paul's message. The fact is that in Iowa it was something like fewer than 10,000 votes for RP in a state of 3 million. In New Hampshire it was more like 20,000 votes in a state with 1.5 Million population. So factually we actually had 4 times the per capita turnout for Ron Paul.

So for future refference, caucus states are easier to win. There is a high concentration of pro-liberty voters in NH. And NY has a surprising number of pro-liberty voters. We need to crunch numbers and find out where the best places to focus in the future may be.

are you serious?

"I am proud that so far we had the best results of any primary.
This article isn't a put down to any other state. "

Following an insult by the phrase "don't take this as an insult"....

It reminds me of the phrase "I'm not racist, but..." 9 times out of ten, the one saying that then goes on to say some of the most racist stuff imaginable.

calm down. i don't think

calm down. i don't think this is an attempt to say that some people did more for the revolution than others...i think it is just a commentary on the fact that RP has more like minded individuals supporting him in NH and probably a recruiting plug for the Free State Project. keep focusing on the future...these conversations are purely academic.

um... no.


was meant not to promote NH in an abstract sense. the word to use would be "well" as in "Ron Paul did "well" in NH"

Or perhaps, "Ron Paul did better than reported in NH"

The use of the word "best" implies that there is a group and NH did better than all others in the group. Later in the article she goes on to at least place NY in the group.

Do not take potshots at others, then expect them to not defend themselves. The only thing more dishonorable would be to then try to deny even having taken a pot-shot to begin with. late for that.

Jane doesn't need you apologizing for her. She realizes her wording was openly hostile towards others and hasn't really defended it or addressed any of the flack she has been receiving due to it.

sorry, double post.

sorry, double post.


You're putting a lot on this "primary" state as if the caucus system ought to be disregarded because it's not a straight up vote.

But I ought to remind you that the Iowa GOP caucus IS a straight up vote (the Democratic caucus is not). The 11% RP received in Iowa was not the percent of precincts or delegates or the result of some skewed system. It was his percent of the vote from a voting process nearly identical to a primary.

I find this especially impressive because for the 2 weeks leading up to the caucus, the Ron Paul campaign's strategy in Iowa could have been summed by this: "Where IS Ron Paul?!"

% of voting population is a good point though.

the point is that it is a

the point is that it is a LOT easier to show up and vote in a primary. just takes 5 minutes of your time and off you go. a caucus will take hours and that is too much for the avg. joe to invest if they do not particularly "like" a candidate. so in a primary you get people who show up and vote b/c they think it is their duty and they just vote for whoever even if they do not particularly feel strongly about that candidate (describes most McCain and Romney supporters). in a caucus you only get people who are hard core supporters (describes most of RP supporters).

NH had an important advantage

It voted shortly after the media blackout began. The voters in NH knew that Ron Paul was in the race.

Before Super Tuesday, the Old Media left Ron Paul out of the voters guides and TV shows when they showed the candidates still in the race. The Super Tuesday states had the disadvantage of most voters thinking Ron Paul was one of the ones who had dropped out of the race.

If the folks in NH would have just had one person at each polling place with a sign, handing out literature, Ron Paul would have done much better there.

ninjahero, you shouldn't

ninjahero, you shouldn't blame the folks in NH. they were well organized and very supportive. they even shouted down that witch clinton at my old elementary school (a polling place).

The part that was a comment..

The person who sent me this actually said he liked caucusing better, and we did have people with signs at each place, there were 7 at mine... all adults, five from NH. It was more than any other candidate had.

I guess they meant the percent compared to the population -- we only have a little over 1M people.

Jane Aitken, 35-Year Veteran Teacher
Ron Paul 2008 Consultant
GOP Woman of the Year 2009
Founder NH Tea Party Coalition (NOT AFFILIATED WITH ANY FAKE 2009 GROUP)
Founder USPEINetwork @ Yahoo (Nat'l Edu Activism Group)
Board Coalition of NH Taxpayers

We had the most self-confidence in NH

After NH we lost the euphoria

1% differential is something to brag about?

since we apparently are gonna start ranking whose state did "more" for Ron... shouldn't we, in the interest of full disclosure, mention how much more time and money and effort went into NH for the 1% differential it had over, say, NY?

* The candidate showed up in NH way more than the 0 times he was in NY

* NH had a benefit from being earlier on in that people from out of state traveled to NH to help canvass/campaign, etc

* Other states with later primaries were arguably at a detriment due to his poor early showing - people simply weren't as motivated as they once were


In addition: *NY had

In addition:

*NY had virtually no national campaign aid with materials, lit, or advertising.

*The population is over 10 times larger.

*NH is supposed to be more independent minded than NY

*NH had hundreds of out of state supporters help out, while NY did it all on its own grassroots efforts.

*NY exceeded National and State Polls, NH did worse than expected.

I agree. Also, I believe one could say that,

given a strategy and appropriate tactics, Dr. Paul could have WON New Hampshire. I don't think that was ever possible in NY.


The Meet-Up groups were out in force in NY

Don't underestimate the effort of the people who took the revolution into their own hands no amount of ad's can equal the effort I saw around my area in NY pushing hard for Ron Paul.

"Rather to seek new kingdoms by their own work, than to slumber in peaceful subjection to the rule of others."

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I'm a New Yorker, and I've seen plenty of RP people here fighting the good fight. I've also met RP here twice in person. I'd like to see a breakdown of how RP did in NYC vs NY state. NYC is big (obviously), but it's the only major city in a vary large, mostly rural state. Many elections are won and lost upstate in the rural, farm areas. I'm sure no one's even heard of RP up there. Let's face it. America is HUGE. There are so many places to be that NO amount of money or planning can cover them all. You need television. You either have to buy it (Romney) or get it for free from a biased MSM (McCain). No other way, unfortunately, with only less than a year or so to accomplish the task. Spreading RP's message is going to take a lot longer now that it's clear the MSM will black him out completely. I think we all spent a long time waiting for the MSM to finally give in, and give RP some coveratge. BUt... it never happened. In fact, the blackout just got worse. So, at least now we know. This is going to have to be taken to the streets for a long time to come. If not 2008, then 2012.

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