Bound Or Else: What?

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With Mitt "suspending" his campaign, there are questions swirling as to who will control his delegates (Mitt or GOP or ?).

As we try to find an answer to that question, I am curious about something. I'm not suggesting that anyone do this, but, I do want to know...

...delegates who are bound to vote for their "designated candidate" have to vote for that candidate, at least in the first round...

...or else: what?

Seriously; what happens if someone who is, in fact, bound for a particular candidate on the1st (or 2nd or subsequent) round(s) just goes ahead and casts their vote for someone else? Is there some sort of reprimand or punishment or other consequence? What is it? A hand slap, or jail, or nothing at all?

Google hasn't yet been my friend in finding an answer to this, so -- anyone know?

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I been asking too...and encouraging others to find out.

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It is state specific...

In NJ, there is no penalty other than a toungue-lashing from the party and getting barred from being a delegate in the future.

I'm real excited about Michigan because the MI GOP will revert all of Mitt's delegates back to unpledged (that's how MI treats "suspended" campaigns). Depending on how many of those delegates are Paul supporters (hopefully more than a few), RP may have just picked up some more delegates with no work at all.

One Down; 49 to Go

So, it seems we have the answer for NJ. Jibbity, do you have something to point us to that references your findings?

Now for the other 49 states. Let's find out all their actual rules. It is good and important to know and understand the GOP rules. Because we know RP would want us to abide by the rule of law and not the rule of man.

So. Let's consider the specifics of...abiding by their rules.

Hmmm

So the choice at the convention is:

Vote for Ron, and never be a delegate again, with the bonus of pissing off the local neocons

or

Vote for McCain and have the dubious delights of 4 years of McWar, but at least you get to attend the next GOP convention

I don't know about you guys, but I'm not seeing this as a difficult decision

Interesting

http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2008/02/08/what-happens-if-r...

Just found this when googling. Methinks I detect a whiff of fear at this full-of-crap-RP-hating blog :)

It is state-specific, I think.

but since he suspended his campaign, he still have those delegates.

"He who exercises government by means of his virtue may be compared to the north polar star, which keeps its place and all the stars turn towards it." Confucius

"He who exercises government by means of his virtue may be compared to the north polar star, which keeps its place and all the stars turn towards it." Confucius

Try Looking at the RNC Website Bylaws

I'm at work, and don't have time, but there must be some rules posted somewhere. It may actually vary from state to state organization.

These political parties all have these loose associations and they may appear to be a single group, but in fact have completely different rules, as we've seen.

The key thing to remember is that these are NOT government bodies or agencies, they're political parties, so you're not looking for laws.

IMissLiberty

IMissLiberty

Yep, You'd Think There'd Be Rules Posted Somewhere...

...and if they are, they sure aren't making those rules easy to find.

Yes, IMissLiberty, you are correct; it is not "legislation" I seek, but precisely the RNC rules on this. That's exactly what I've been searching for, but as yet to no avail.

And no, I cannot imagine a single RP delegate voting for McCain or Huck!

This issue is, as stated in my post, a question of...curiosity. :)

Can you imagine our RP

Can you imagine our RP hidden delegates casting a ballot for McCain or Huckabee? I can't.

Mathew 5:9 Blessed are the peacemakers: for they shall be called the children of God.

Still waiting for an answer.....

"...delegates who are bound to vote for their "designated candidate" have to vote for that candidate, at least in the first round...

...or else: what?"

Anyone know??

This is an excellent

This is an excellent question, and one I would also like answered. I mean, what if we just got everybody to become delegates and all voted for RP? I mean, in the final analysis, the nominee is decided by just 1100 people. Jeez, we ought to be able to get that many people to become delegates. Then what would happen?
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Precedent?

Is there any known precedent of this happening before, where a delegate simply disregarded his/her bound vote? And, has anyone come across a "rule book" that would address this issue?

I think it would be good to know the answer to this question, but I'm coming up dry in my searches on this. The info must exist somewhere!

If It Can, It Has

IMissLiberty

IMissLiberty

Anybody??

I've wondered about this

Clarification

...uh...I was asking about what happens if delegates don't vote in the matter they were "bound" to vote...not discussing 3rd party run here...

You are missing the point

Ron Paul doesn’t need to run 3rd party. He needs to run 2nd party (Libertarian or Constitution). Why? Simply because there is little to no difference in our CFR controlled ‘two’ party system. Dr. Paul has rode the crest of this republican wave for all its worth. Its got him name recognition, in the gop debates, msm interviews, etc. However, now that wave is nearing shore and is about to crash. We must take the blinders off and face this fact knowing it’s not the end but merely the beginning of a second phase. The grassroots diehards are seeing the overthrow of the gop as the only viable route to travel. Let us look at the facts. First, in spite of all the humongous grassroots efforts, we have not won a single state and have only harnessed around 42 delegates. Why? The majority of gop voters, like it or not, are mainstream controlled. We have been spending too much energy into trying to convert the unconvertible. Secondly, why do we continue to believe that we pro-constitution voters can ultimately take over the establishment controlled gop by convention time? I know you are going to say: “but we do have a game plan of delegate vote control on the second vote call.” With Romney dropping out and Huckabee soon to follow, let’s get real. It is likely that the nomination will be decided on the first round. So much for all that hard work and flawed game strategy. Besides, the gop has changed the rules locally throughout the state caucuses and primaries, so not to think they would do so at the convention behind closed doors is nieve. They will do anything and everything to block Ron Paul from getting the nomination. We must divorce ourselves from this Custer mentality. I am not at all talking about giving up or quitting. I am talking about intelligently rethinking our strategy, folks. It is far from over. For the ‘eternal vigilance’ long term I agree with Gary North’s Phase 2 strategy. For the near term, this November, we need to accept the welcoming open arms of either the Libertarian or Constitutional parties or both (assuming you can simultaneously be on the ballot under more than one party). They are national parties with recognized ballots in nearly all 50 states. The majority of their voters have endorsed Dr. Paul for president. Now we can start swimming with the current and make use of their established bases to further our collective cause of restoring the Constitution. Ron Paul can immediately announce his running mate, and together with his growing advisory board, start truthfully attacking his dem and rep opponents. Just think of this for a moment. It gives our campaign six, yes, six extra months (half a year) to show the voting public the day and night differences between us and them. That’s a huge advantage v. spending half a year busting just to possibly get a nomination. Check your odds of getting the nomination. Same as little big horn? No? Then why are the donations down to a trickle? Many internet and grassroots supporters are looking for a mid-course maneuver which will reignite this campaign. Now is the time to act.

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I think you're on the wrong thread...

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