Former Romney Blogger Here
I posted this below a different thread, but several people have asked about mending fences with former Romney supporters and I thought this might be useful.
First of all, I need to introduce myself. I've been a fan of Ron Paul for many years, but this election cycle I have chosen to support Mitt Romney. Some of you might not understand why, but I see them as two outsider politicians, both incredibly intelligent, but Romney with the leadership skills to make a difference--even though that difference might be limited because he advocates small steps while RP advocates huge steps.
Principally, I'm probably more in line with Paul than Romney, but I think we have strayed so far from the Founding Fathers that a principled approach won't be effective. In other words, I believe the country has terminal cancer and it inopperable and Romney's chemo will buy it time while RP's surgery would risk premature death. I've supported Romney over Paul because, 1) RP won't get elected, 2) The nation would literally collapse in a fit of rioting and chaos if we were to implement all of RP's platforms, and 3) Many of RP followers give his ideals a very bad name. I have however defended RP in many of my posts as a Romney Blogger.
I won't waste your time arguing for Romney in this forum, but suffice it to say, he's hated by the MSM as much as Paul and an enemy of my enemy should be my friend. I also felt a little embarrassed for Romney when he attacked RP in the recent debate about reading Amedinajad's press-releases. Please don't judge him for trying to score some points with the conservative base--no one is perfect.
With Romney suspending his candidacy today, my natural transition is to Ron Paul. In joining with you, I would hope you might consider the following approach when you continue the fight for RP.
1) Don't bash Romney. He has a group of very loyal and sincere supporters who would be much more likely to support Paul than Huckabee or McCain. They are very conservative and refuse to vote for McHuck this November.
2) Don't brag about pulling a back-room deal with Huckabee for 3 measley delegates in West Virginia. It's below what I would expect from either a Romney, or a Paul candidacy. I would rather give you all of Romney's 270 delegates than to see that kind of a stunt. Romney didn't play by Washington's rules, and that's why he got beat. Paul or his followers shouldn't abandon their principles to play these kind of games either. I can support a losing cause as long as integrity is maintained.
3) Don't expect that your support for Dr. Paul will ever be a winning cause. That's not what his candidacy is about. It's about educating a young block of voters about constitutional principles that weren't taught in school. I expect that like Rome, this nation will collapse within our current generation and the things RP is preaching will come into play at that time. Lovers of liberty will band together and the teachings of Ron Paul will be akin to scripture.
4) Consider an alternative "outreach" program to voters of other former candidates other than the "Ron Paul is Right" argument. You'll catch more flies with honey. Back off on the stringent anti-war rhetoric. Most people don't understand all that is going on behind the scenes and you need to cut them some slack on their ignorance. RP is smart enough to know the best way to pull back from Iraq so as not to make matters worse. Emphasize that he's primarily not the "anti-war" candidate, but the "pro-liberty" candidate. I know many of you are trying to do this, but the message isn't quite getting out there.
Hopefully I won't get run out of here and we can engage in some thoughful dialogue about what this country could be, and what we should be prepared for if America doesn't get back on track.
Romney Supporter 7/06 - 2/08
Paul Supporter 2/08 - TBD
SC_Conservative... what now that Romney has
endorsed McCain?
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thanks again for your support.
With your help we can make a difference.
The Federal Reserve
Is controlled by a banking oligarchy which controls the CFR of which Mitt Romney is a member. They are meant to divide us. Welcome to the enlightened family! America, We, the People. Republicans are the constitution party!
Do not let them sway your decisions by fear. We must march around their great wall.
"Walls are stronger than the men that defend them."
Ghegis Khan
"Walls are stronger than the men that defend them."
Ghengis Khan
Thank you, you are
Thank you, you are awesome.
I'm supporting Paul for a 3rd party candidacy. You make some excellent salient points (I like the one about cancer/premature death).
Your temporary delusion in supporting Romney (much like mine in voting for Bush in '04) was very rational and can be forgiven.
Buckle your seat belt !
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We hit a little turbulence in the campaign from time to time, as you know, and it's daily fare at Daily Paul.
As you may have seen, most of the people who post here are good, ardent supporters. They are articulate and informed.
But Daily Paul has its share of negative posters. Michael and the crew do their best to delete the really bad ones, but sometimes they languish on the site for a time. But don't let the bad apples discourage you. We are a hardy lot and have deep faith in Ron Paul, the Constitution and the importance of this campaign.
Welcome aboard new friend.
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Comment on SC Conservative's views:
"I've supported Romney over Paul because... the nation would literally collapse in a fit of rioting and chaos if we were to implement all of RP's platforms."
That is simply untrue.
"I've supported Romney over Paul because... many of RP followers give his ideals a very bad name."
Dr. Paul's ideals are things like liberty, peace and sound money.
No it is correct, however,
No it is correct, however, what everyone (including RP supporters) have failed to explain properly is that Ron Paul does have some concrete plans to ease the transition.
ABOLISH THE FEDERAL RESERVE!
We may disagree with your choice of candidate, but it's the issues that are important. Support the Constitution!
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"Make the lie big, make it simple, keep saying it, and eventually they will believe it." -- Joseph Goebbels
"3) Don't expect that your
"3) Don't expect that your support for Dr. Paul will ever be a winning cause. That's not what his candidacy is about. It's about educating a young block of voters about constitutional principles that weren't taught in school. I expect that like Rome, this nation will collapse within our current generation and the things RP is preaching will come into play at that time. Lovers of liberty will band together and the teachings of Ron Paul will be akin to scripture."
I agree with that. I don't agree with part 4 though.
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I don't know, I'm in it to
I don't know, I'm in it to win. I know it's a long shot, but if God has not turned a blind eye on America, we might have a chance. Freedom is a God given right.
Mathew 5:9 Blessed are the peacemakers: for they shall be called the children of God.
Welcome
to the Forum. So many posts lately have been overly negative and are not representative of the "true" participants of this forum.
We welcome all who want to learn more about Dr. Paul.
If you are Mormon,
Research some talks that Ezra Taft Benson gave in the 60's. He talked about how unconstitutional Gov. programs should be eliminated, but some of them would have to be phased out over a period of months and sometimes years. That is what RP would do. He is intelligent and knows that it took time to stray from Constitutional government. It will take time to get things back to the Constitution. The Constitution is the law. Its time we followed it again!
Welcome... bending fences time!
If you know the social network IRL or RL then please have them ask all the questions they want. I am sure they want their country back from so-called "liberals" (that are really out to enslave us all... with a smile) starting here in the GOP.
Enjoy the acronyms. IRL = In Real Life, RL = Real Life, GOP = Grand Ole Party
Hector Roos
Miami, FL
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Hector Roos
hectorroos@gmail.com
Some points to consider,
but mostly, welcome aboard. please, after some research here and elsewhere, come to know the good doctor and you will see how easily it will be to spread his message, voting record, and platform for America.
- he will protect your right to be a Mormon
- he will protect your right to homeschool
- he will protect your right to save your earnings with interest
- he will protect your right to bear arms
- he will protect your right to free speech and civil disobedience
- he will protect the sanctity of life
- no unjust wars, no un-constitutional wars, no capital punishment and no federally mandated abortion laws (either way). supports a constitutional ammendment to abortion only through constitutional framework.
- he will build a strong defense
- he will gain respect in the world for the U.S.
- he will limit or end lobby with monies
- he will push for a sound money
- he will end the income tax
- he will reduce the federal government and spending
- he will restore civil liberties, repealing the patriot and military commissions act
- he will help restore constitutional government and the integrity of those who swear to uphold it.
the list goes on. for me, it is much more simple when one looks at it. I trust Dr. Paul, completely. I may not agree with him on everything, but the things I do agree with him on are the governing principles that would give result to the issues. In other words, he is an inclusive man, and I trust that he would bring many opinions to the table in his efforts to restore this great Nation.
so please, do your part and become American again with all of us fellow-patriots. this is a time we need to come together as a people, not some absurdly distorted form of government and show the rest what can be done and where we can go, and the world that yes, you too, can rise up and claim Freedom!, once again.
Amen!
LivingTheDream
LivingTheDream
Good Post
And very relevant,... well done
“Liberty means responsibility. That is why most men dread it.” - George Bernard Shaw
wants are unlimited, means are scarce...
....where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is LIBERTY. 2 Corinthians 3:17(b)
***wants are unlimited, means are scarce...***
Hi SC
How about ROCKY ANDERSON for VP or Sec'y. of State
Not my first choice that's for sure
He loves the spotlight more than freedom. He's anti-war and that's about the only thing I know about him that compares with RP's message. He did work with Romney to help make the Olympics successful, but beyond that I don't know much about him.
Romney Supporter 7/06 - 2/08
Paul Supporter 2/08 - TBD
Romney Supporter 7/06 - 2/08
Paul Supporter 2/08 - TBD
Funny thing!
If I had never found out about Ron Paul and believed in everything he said, I probably would have voted for Romney. Not sure what that says about me.
Ditto!
Romney is just so presidential looking and he just sounds right in my gut despite what my head bone feels.
Hector Roos
Miami, FL
See our local meetup forum: http://www.ronpaulforums.com/forumdisplay.php?f=53
Miami Students for Ron Paul:
http://www.FIU4RonPaul.com
Hector Roos
hectorroos@gmail.com
Mitt looks and sounds like a used car salesman
not a president.
Sorry, I am LDS (Mormon) and I think he gives us a bad name. I don't believe a word of what he says. He does not come across as sincere, but rather as cocky and arrogant. He like to talk about himself a lot, and that is something that totally turns me off.
RP2012!
Me, too.
And the way he laughs at others. Totally disrespectful.
Sorry
Sorry you had to lose your guy to get here, but I am glad you're here. I know it must hurt like hell. I have been busting my ass for Ron Paul since July. Sign holdings, letter writings, buying signs-slim jims-wallet cards-buttons-bumperstickers-DVD's-gas,etc, out of our own pockets (we bought a new laptop, just to show the videos to folks), distribution, walking, talking, emailing, blogging, getting laughed down, getting ridiculed, etc...It has and is a tough campaign! We evn made our way to a rally and met Mitt Romney's son and had a great converstaion with him when he visited Fort Wayne! He actually commended the RP campaign! I cannot imagine how I would feel after doing all this work, for my guy to drop out. You have my sympathy. The good news is, you are in the camp of REAL change and progress now. I don't want to dis Mitt, but I just couldn't stay with a guy that wanted to expand and perpetuate these lillegal and misled wars. My Dad was a hardcore Mitt man, until I finally got him to sit down and have a real discussion and let him watch some RP speeches. He, like me, was amazed that we hadn't seen the common sense and honesty of Ron Paul before.
I hope you stick around, I hope you'll actually get active in our campaign! I hope you'll lead some of your own folks to the message of truth and liberty! It took some guts to come here and post this. I commend you and welcome you here.
The only way we can lose is to forget that we are winning!
unity!
we need unity here! if some romney supporters do not agree with us in 100% of the issues is OK,what it is important is that they are joining the revolution!and that they understand that amnesty mccain and huckabee are not conservative and we have to support a conservative,a conservative who can win the general election bcuz no war-mongering will win in november! remember what happened during the mid-term elections?
RON PAUL the only conservative running for president
RON PAUL the only conservative running for president
Welcome aboard
I can attest to the loyalty and sincerity of the Romney supporters. Having just participated in the precinct caucus process in a western state, I can personally attest to both their loyalty, sincerity and organization. They showed up at the precinct caucuses in huge numbers, which surprised us. I thought we were organized, but we were greatly outnumbered in every precinct.
Regarding your terminal cancer analogy, it is my opinion that the assumption of the terminal condition of this country is mistaken. As a nation, we are in need of a transfusion more than anything else. No offense, but Mitt would not have been enough of a transfusion. He may have been less toxic than Hillary, but we are in need of a radical departure from the norm of the last 95 years if we are to revive our Constitutional Republic. Individual liberty and fiscal conservatism will provide the cure for all that ails this nation.
Thanks so much for posting that
I enjoyed reading your post.
Previously known as DCALIFANO
Previously known as DCALIFANO
Here's some thoughtful dialogue...
The National Debt is at $9 Trillion + Unfunded liabilities and entitlements of $62 Trillion = $71 Trillion. Given 300 Million People in the U.S.A. that is $236,000.00 of debt for every man, woman and child. Adjusted for those who actually pay the taxes, and the number is over $400,000.00 per person. The funds can only come from one place...your pocket. This number grows by $6.00 per day, per person...without taking into account the effect of compounding interest. You will have to pay this in addition to all other life expenses. Political reality says that these things will be paid and the only way for that to happen is by printing the money.
In the Wiemar Republic of Germany, in January of 1919, 1 ounce of silver was 12 marks. Within 4 years by January of 1923, as they did what we are doing...printing the money, the value went to 23,277 marks per ounce and one year later in January of 1924, the price of 1 ounce of silver rose to 543,750,000,000 marks per ounce! Yes that is 543 Billion Marks per ounce! So which riots do you prefer?
Still want NeoLibs and NeoCons making the decisions? Wake up! Ron Paul is the ONLY hope we have as Obama is a CFR tool who will further debase the dollar by increasing the speed of the printing presses. Wake up! Criminals rule us, it is time to fight back! Obama, Clinton, McCain, Huckabee and yes…even Romney are all members of the club that will ruin you and sell you into slavery. We are being overtaken by fascism, driven into servitude and we must stop it here...while we still can. Do not allow the CFR/Bilderberger elites their desires. Educate yourself. Fill your mind with truth and join the revolution! Tell other's these numbers and read Creature from Jekyll Island so you can talk intelligently about the subject. Do not be afraid to speak to people.
The only way around the elite's is via the word of mouth education of the masses by those in the know. The media is owned and controlled by these interests and will NEVER tell the public what is happening.
Conspiracy Theories exist for a reason and they are ridiculed by the very ones who are perpetuating the conspiracies. Don't underestimate the power of the Bully Pulpit. It is enormous. We need someone in possession of it who will use it to educate and guide us through the coming storm. Educated as a populace, America will once again be the force to be reckoned with but we have a long painful road ahead of us. The first step is to reclaim our airwaves and the consciousness of the American people and that can only be done by an honest man.
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