EMAIL HDQ *NOW* 3RD PARTY-WHY WASTE ANOTHER DAY WITH NO MEDIA?
Yes caps - I think its very important that Ron Paul go 3rd party asap to get SOME media coverage - otherwise there will only be 2 candidates running for the GOP - he really is now dead/defunct in the main media.... only the internet reporting Ron Paul...
His media has been dying everywhere and now he's only down to a few internet blogs.... IF HE RUNS 3RD PARTY not only does he get some media coverage out of it - he will pull in the demo and republican and independent dissatisfied voters and get that 15% support to be included in the debates....
PLUS WE ALL GET TO REFUND his run - if we all re-donated what we have done to date, he will have like 40 to 50 million to start with, and this does not include donations from new supporters....
Its a hate filled game this time around and not like HISTORY at all when people say a third party cant win... NEVER SAY NEVER... its stupid to quote history as a reason for not going third party - the internet is stronger than ever - WE CAN DO THIS AS NEVER BEFORE....
GO RON GO.... GET THE BALL ROLLING EMAIL HDQ TO RUN *NOW* EVERY minute every hour every day is just more zero media for Paul.... he has been rendered totally out of the race...
Why is the campaign HOARDING MONEY...
I ask you that??? They have *not* spent their money... they are hoarding it... why??? its going to be a third party run for Paul - wait and see...
DO NOT SURRENDER!
There are 21 more primaries to go. Are you suggesting we all throw in the towel when there are more chances to win? Maybe all of the candidates should have just dropped out after Iowa.
There are five caucus states coming up. Ron Paul always does well in those states. With the field even narrower now, he has every chance of winning them all.
And let us not forget that there is a very real chance that delegates "won" for will be "open" at the convention to vote as they please. Most states haven't even begun the delegate selection process.
We all need to take some lessons from the "greatest generation". Did they turn back on D-Day? They were getting slaughtered at the beaches, but they persevered and prevailed. Did those same soldiers surrender at the Battle of the Bulge? NO! Those men were fighting for freedom. So is Ron Paul and his supporters.
Are Ron Paul supporters so spineless they are ready to quit when the going gets tough? I sure hope not. I know I'm not. I'm committed to becoming a delegate in my state.
Even if we believe the low vote totals for Ron Paul, if even 1 in 100 of those voters became delegates, Ron Paul would win a brokered convention. Are you willing to be that 1 in 100? I am.
Ron Paul is still drawing huge crowds everywhere he goes. Over 4,200 attended yesterdays speech. FOUR THOUSAND TWO HUNDRED for a speech! That's twice as many people as reportedly voted for him in Alaska. At a SPEECH!
The MSM is beating up McCain hard now. The MSM never wanted McCain, but they created this mess by biased reporting. Even a few victories may have them looking to Ron Paul as the McCain killer.
Even McCain's mother says people will have to hold their nose to vote for her son. SHE IS RIGHT! Not a single person that voted for Ron Paul held their nose, I assure you. Every one of them was proud to do so.
DO NOT GIVE UP.
WIN THE REMAINING STATES.
BECOME A DELEGATE.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT.
YOU WILL NEVER REGRET NOT QUITTING.
All would be true *if* GOP didnt hate ron...
everything points to the GOP blacklisting Paul in every way shape or form...
Republicans are dumb Zombies.
Why associate this active revolution with extremists thirsty of more blood and nothing more. Detach now from the grip of these morons and let the movement shine and blossom on its own. It is time to evolve this revolution in to a new party.
Two words why we stay republican
Convention address.
You got a better plan to reach millions of people who have never heard of Ron Paul?
The doc speaks at the convention.
That happens to be bigger than anything you got.
Unify
One more TV appearance?? they wont even let him talk...
his delegates will be ignored, he will be ignored and even IF allowed to talk... it will be his last speech...
Can we get him on the ballot?
Can we, as supporters, legally get him on the ballot in our states without him abandoning the Republican race? To me, that would be ideal. He can keep campaigning as a Republican chasing delegates. We can set up a backup plan for him.
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Libertas, Pax, Prosperitas
Its a hate filled game this
Its a hate filled game this time around and not like HISTORY at all when people say a third party cant win... NEVER SAY NEVER... its stupid to quote history as a reason for not going third party....
You're giving up on the strategy now because why? Because you think he can't win? or is it because you're impatient? And if you don't know what the strategy is by now, then maybe you ought to ask for some clarification. You ought to heed your own words before chanting 3rd party.
Never say never is what the rest of us are doing -- but people like you chanting "3rd party now!" is saying NEVER to the current strategy -- don't you realize that? You don't know what will happen, and neither does anyone else -- so why not just have a little patience and wait until someone is declared a winner before branding his current strategy a defeat?
Look, we need everyone on the same team right now -- and if you can't be a part of it now because of your own reasons, then that's cool. Just come back to us when it's the right time. But let's wait first and see what happens. Each day something strange occurs, and with Romney dropping out, that is a great thing, as there is one less guy to worry about -- so don't give up so easily on the current strategy at hand.
Boring? Or disgusting?
The whole third party discussion is ...Zzzzzzzzzzzzzz.
Go read the zillions of prior threads on it if you're interested.
But these calls to SPAM HQ are just disgusting. I don't donate so they can field calls like this.
IMissLiberty
IMissLiberty
CAPS!
IF PAUL GOES 3RD PARTY YOU'LL NEVER HEAR FROM HIM AGAIN!
Is that clear?
No Way
He needs to save THAT coverage for later!!!!
If we do it now, That story will be old news when general election comes.
Now wee need to stay in for the debates and get the message out while discrediting McCain. Be patient and take our shots so they count the most.
I agree with you about going 3rd party but not yet
OK
let's assume that you are right; that RP needs to run as a 3rd party. I ask, Why now? Publicity? Maybe about 3 minutes worth. I think staying in the GOP race has a lot to offer, especially if he does well in a couple of states. I don't see any political downside to staying in the GOP race.
Of course, the main reason not to even consider this now is that the guy on the ballot, Dr. Paul, has said....no.
h-daddy
Normally I would agree that
Normally I would agree that RP should drop from running for the republican nomination and go 3rd party, but I think he should wait it out a little bit longer. Let's see what happens in the next few weeks at some of these caucuses/primaries, namely Texas (Ron Paul's state) on March 4th. If he does poorly in Texas, then at that point, I would support a 3rd party run ASAP.
Ron Paul is not going to do well in Texas - name recognition
Sorry, but as a TEXAN I can assure you Ron will be third after McCain and Huckabee.... people here still dont know who Ron Paul is sadly to say and the republicans are still going to vote McCain to make sure he gets it and our GOP IS AS CORRUPT AS THEY COME...
witness the videos of Paul's supporters being shut out of the Texas Republican caucus... they sent all the Paul supporters a letter saying come after the doors were locked and secured and wouldnt be allowed in...
its the same ole same ole here for Paul in Texas...
WE NEED TO GET RID OF THE REPUBLICAN STIGMA ASAP... its killing him and will kill anyone running republican this year.
I'm in the 3rd Party camp
I don't see what all the optimists see in a brokered convention. But ultimately, it is up to Ron to decide. He has much more information and experience than us.
But regardless, will our strategy change much? For the next seven months, we will try to convince everyone that Ron Paul is the best choice. Do we even need to mention which party? Just say that he will be on the ballot one way or another and encourage everyone to research on their own. We don't need to ask for votes yet (except the states that still have a primary obviously). The idea to is convince people that his message is right.
Regardless of what party he is running as, it should not change the strategy of the grass roots.
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"No man has a natural right to commit aggression on the equal
rights of another, and this is all from which the laws ought to restrain him." --Thomas Jefferson
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Libertas, Pax, Prosperitas
Name a 3rd party candidate from 2004
If you weren't in the LP or Constitution party or green party, you probably couldn't name any of these candidates... and you want RP to jump into that black hole of media coverage? That makes sense.
The media coverage RP gets now is infinitely huge (wo!. that just blew my mind) compared to what he would get as a 3rd party candidate, and that's the exact reason the MSM and his opposition would want him to go 3rd party.
I disagree Dont Blow your load to early!!!
He needs to save THAT coverage for later!!!!
If we do it now, That story will be old news when general election comes.
Now wee need to stay in for the debates and get the message out while discrediting McCain. Be patient and take our shots so they count the most.
No
way!
What makes you think
Paul would get ANY media if he ran 3rd party? Seroiusly, what makes you think that? There are already a dozen third party candidtes out there, you never hear of any of them. If Paul runs third party, then the media can officially ignore him 100%. Right now, even though it pisses them off, he gets SOME media. That would quickly drop to zero with a 3rd party run. The only way to get attention 3rd party is to be a billionaire. Like Perot or Bloomberg. And that's not going to happen. Besides, Paul is running for his congressional seat too and must by law remain a republican if he is to pursue that.
Cool your jets RogerRocket.
Everything is on schedule.
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You think 3rd party...
is good for media coverage , you're dreaming! Dr.Paul is in the blackout now, go third party and you might as well throw him in a hole and cover him with dirt!!
bad idea
Not only will he get even less exposure, it will be something for them to latch onto as a flip flopper since he has said he would not do a 3rd party run. The most effective path is to stay in the party. We will all be writing his name in on election day anyhow.
Steve Stratton
Proud member of the R3VOLution
Steve Stratton
Proud member of the R3VOLution
Devil, I think you are wrong on this one....
We believe in his message and what he stands for - can't we believe in his strategy too?
Let's cool this 3rd party talk - it is dividing us! We can't do anything about it anyhow.
WHAT IS THIS STRATEGY, WHAT IS THIS *PLAN*
I keep hearing about this mysterious strategy.... I keep hearing about this mysterious plan - would someone please enlighten me on what miracle the campaign is planning - and please PAUL IS NOT GOD... he is only a human and this mysterious strategy/plan he has, that everyone keeps talking about is totally beyond me...
If you aren't for the war ->
If you aren't for the war -> you're against the troops
If you don't support the super secret plan of the Paul campaign -> you're not a real supporter
Honestly, I'm tired of this type of mentality. Dr. Paul help spread the message of freedom.. helped to wake up a nation.. all of which was incredibly important. To that end, to believe there is some miracle strategy that's going to even have a shot at this nomination is wishful thinking (IMHO).
I'll continue to support Dr. Paul, however, I don't buy the 'Mysterious strategy' that some are proposing. I believe those who believe this are the real conspiracy theorists.. just my 00000010 cents.
Ignoring history
You are either ignorant of history or are deliberately trying to undermine the campaign. No third party candidate has gotten any significant media in fifty years. And it ain't going to happen now. So get over it.
But no team had ever come down from three games-to-0
until the Red Sox. However, there is no need to talk 3rd party just yet, for it is causing a rift.
I just love defeatist attitudes... History blah blah blah....
You defeatists who quote blah blah blah History... why dont YOU just lie down and give up?? History is History and has nothing to do with the present...
Who would have thought Paul would do so well so far... not even him as he has quoted MANY times over...
Its a friggin revolution.... hasnt revolutions succeeded in history...
Didnt the 60's movement stop the vietnam war...
you quote history without looking at all of it and besides, history is in the past - we are in the present... if this isnt news for you
I'm sorry but I think
you are very WRONG there is no way they will give him any media attention as a third party candidate.
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what makes you think that he
what makes you think that he would get any media attention 3rd party..... They will only laugh at him more..