* * UPDATED - TX televangelist under senate investigation, raised million for Huckabee * *
THIS COULD PUT HUCKABEE UNDER
ACTION NEEDED!!!
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UPDATE: NBC BLOG ONTO HUCK/COPELAND 2-8-08
http://deepbackground.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2008/02/08/64974...
UPDATE:
Let officials and others know... This ministry is in TX. Huckabee is gunning for TX to out-do RP in his own state.
Officials to notify of this recent Huck/Copeland fund raising million dollar stunt.
1) Sen. Charles Grassley Iowa- Senate Finance Committee. He heads committee and has an open case investigating Copeland for prosperity preaching swindles. Here is that separate story.
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/11/06/cbsnews_investigat...
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ACTION:
Grassley and the committee may not even know of this Huck/Copeland million dollar stunt. Grassley's email:
http://grassley.senate.gov/public/
Let's see if we can find other committee members.
JACKPOT...
CHAIRMAN:
Chairman Max Baucus (click on his name front page and see email from his web site).
PS: Trinity Foundation, a nonprofit out of TX whose mission is to expose televangelist corruption..is reporting on the Huck/Copeland million raised.
This could be the old
This could be the old media's worst nightmare come true.
They have to keep that giant elephant in the living room covered for at least another 3 months! The American people cannot see him!
I don't think this will derail Huckabee's train.
Notice how he says he wants a "full investigation" into Washington state's caucus on Saturday night.....and now he gets this.
Interesting.
The below article, which the
The below article, which the poster'.....Jeff' wrongly claims the Huckabee story is 'debunked'---is from a 'christian' org/source who supports Huckabee.
And...from a so-called expert...some 'attorney' for org. that supports Huckabee for President.
Non Issue
Debunked
nothing wrong
http://www.onenewsnow.com/Politics/Default.aspx?id=66351
Sacramento Jeff
Please tell us why you think Huckabee should be our next president. Give us a clear, concise, point by point, essay on why this would be the best way for our 2008 election year to end?
I will as soon as you tell me
Where the fuck I said Huck will be better than Hillary.
Stop making conspiracies up you quack
Bit of a pickle here
We need to grab Texas out from under Huckabee, but we don't want to take him clean out or we're not getting our brokered convention under any circumstances...A bit between Iraq and a hard place on this one...
Don't start this as
Don't start this as rumor...but someone said TX was 'winner takes all' delegates....Is this true?
Winner take all by
Winner take all by congressional district, not statewide.
A Non-Issue
Let's focus on ourselves. Huckabee supporters have problems? So what? He should be defeated for other reasons, not because of who his supporters are. Eventually a questionable Paul contributor/supporter will pop up -- if it doesn't directly reflect on the candidate's integrity, what does it matter?
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"Make the lie big, make it simple, keep saying it, and eventually they will believe it." -- Joseph Goebbels
The issue here for me is Huck
Even if Copeland's contributions were legal, It's a problem when a presidential candidate promises to, according to Copeland, stand with him anytime, anywhere, on ANY issue, especially when the contributor is under investigation.
Somebody gives the candidate money and the candidate agrees to back them up on ANYTHING??
THAT reflects on the candidate's integrity and DOES matter.
It remains to be seen...the
It remains to be seen...the Senate Finance Committee is underway on Copeland (and 6 others). It remains to be seen what they do, with the Huckabee/Fundraising $$$ million. This NBC report was from 2-8.
BUMP, for....
....ACTION!!
(And to the poster who referred to the "Lord's anointed" restriction, sorry but...FALSE teachers are NOT among the anointed. Copeland is nothing but a charlatan / huckster!! I am a firm KJV-only Biblical Christian myself, and will pray for you if you are deceived by him and the Hinn / Crouch / C. Dollar crowd.)
Story has been debunked
Copeland did nothing wrong.
"Sacramento_Jeff" needs...
...to be de-bunked.
OK I will find the source
All you had to do was ask. Not be a fuckking nazi prick about it
xxxooo Lil Jeffie, At Least Spell Your Profanities Correctly
crackers4paul
I think there is a conspiracy to dumb down americans. If anyone needs proof, please read all of Sacramento Jeff's writings. It is working!
I thought you two were going
I thought you two were going to go get a room? Or did you do that already? LOL!
newb
http://www.onenewsnow.com/Politics/Default.aspx?id=66351
This ....Jeff, wrongly
This ....Jeff, wrongly claims the Huckabee story is 'debunked'---he uses a 'christian' org/source web site who supports Huckabee.
And...org uses a so-called expert...some 'attorney' for org. that supports Huckabee for President.
Copeland/Huckabee's $$$
Copeland/Huckabee's $$$ deals have certainly NOT been debunked!
Note: the NBC investigative blog...just reported on the 8th--still a very much alive situation.
And, it is fact that Copeland (and 6 others) are still being investigated by the Senate Financial Committee for 'properity preaching' swindles...this...has been ongoing and still is.
Further...Copeland is in TX---funding Huckabee's bid for Dr. Paul's home state.
takes on new importance with
takes on new importance with Hucks determination for TX win!
Trust in God, but tie your camel tight.
"Socialism needs two legs on which to stand; a right and a left. While appearing to be in complete opposition to one another,they both march in the same direction." - Paul Proctor
dont attack kenneth copeland.
I think that all Christians should know that there is a restriction of brother attacking brother and a restriction against attacking the anointed.
Do you remember the story of David cutting the fringe off of Saul's garment?
Copeland might have violated some law or some detail of the law.
It wont help Dr. Paul for us to attack in this way.
I am...
a christian...and Copeland is NO brother of mine...nor is Huckabee.
I am a Christian also..
I am a Christian also.. served in the ministry... If you believe Mr. Copland to be annointed, then pray for him. I dont know of any scripture that says that Kenneth Copeland or his $5000 suit is annointed. Nor his Mulit-Million dollar word of Faith house... Please go solicit the Crouches, Hinn, Cerillo and the rest of the preachers that are preaching words that "TICKLE YOUR EAR"..<--- research that in your NIV or NASB.. I think you'll find it in the New Testament about the False teachers.. BINGO.. No brother of mine either.... I prefer Charles Stanley, Mike Macintosh and Chuck Smith... REAL Christian Pastors...
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5 Aug 2007
don't mess with this!
First of all we NEED HUCKABEE to stay in the race. This will help ensure a brokered convention.
Second, WHY are we using the IRS of all things to stop the rights to freedom of speech outlined by the first amendment??!!!
I agree this is probably unethical, HOWEVER, if you believe in separation of church and state the way I do, the GOVERNMENT is supposed to stay out of the business of the CHURCH, NOT the other way around!!
HELLO??!! Anyone get this?!
**That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them
not quite...
...yes, we need Huckabee in for a while...it will take some time before the Copeland/Huckabee million dollar deal is fully investigated. Maybe, the outcome will hit...say just before the TX primary or the convention....
as far as your 'big brother' IRS argument...doesn't hold.
'Separation of church and state' you claim....you got a logic problem??? Huckabee running for president (state) and cookin' up million dollar deals with properity preachers (church) (while said preacher is already under investigation by senate)...is that not Huckabee/Copeland mixing church/state in a major way?!
Wonder who dug up this
Wonder who dug up this dirt... Somebody wants him out!
Mathew 5:9 Blessed are the peacemakers: for they shall be called the children of God.
Huck doesn't seem to be lacking in dirt.
With such things as fibbing about having a theology degree, crushing the hard drives of computers at the end of his term as governor, appointing gift-givers to state posts, etc, you would think lots of people, especially Christians, would've been raising an eyebrow at Huck by now.
Funny, I don't remember hearing about these things on TV, though. If they talked about them, I sure missed it. I saw articles on the internet.
He seems to have so much dirt, it's a wonder he hasn't gotten nailed with a nickname like "pigpen" or something, like Romney got labeled "flip-flopper".
ha...
either McCain or a democrat candidate.
I updated above with links on who to contact to ensure the Sen. Grassley knows of Huck/Copeland million dollar deal.
Please email...if you all want too.
This could sink Huckabee.
In my county the tax assesor
goes to the largest church / that is loosly associated with Copeland & Hagee. And I believe the land commissioner. They have done all kinds of land deals and made millions. Getting people to donate to buy land for this good cause to build this or that, then it falls through and what do you know? Later someone in the church builds a neighborhood there. IT has happened 2 times in the last 10 years with very high dollar property.
The corruption of the prosperity pastors and how they have key members in govt offices locally is the real story. People need to investigate at the county level.
Also, the voter registriar goes to the church and I'm pretty sure that I will have trouble voting, even though I did register when I renewed my liscence. I was sent a letter and sent it in another registration. I still have not recieved my registration.
?? Interesting. Who is in charge of this investigation?