Spokane has reported so this thread is a moot point
slapshot explained this to us with this thread. Spokane is already counted.
http://www.dailypaul.com/node/35847#comment-317792
If Spokane has at least 2200 votes, it may be enough to make up the 5% deficit and take the lead. McCain took the lead from Huck earlier with 1000 votes in a precinct with a lower percentage. I think that was King County.
I just found this site with vote totals.
http://projects.washingtonpost.com/2008-presidential-candida...
McCain 3468 votes 26%
Huckabee 3226 votes 24%
Paul 2799 votes 21%
This means that if Spokane had 2200 votes cast. Paul gets 46% or 1012, Huck gets 20% or 440 and McInsane gets 15% or 330 votes. The new totals would be
Paul 3813 votes
McCain 3798
Huck 3666
Ron Paul wins! The higher the vote count in Spokane the more Ron Paul pulls away! The local media said thousands of people showed up in Spokane and it was a record turnout. We may not know till morning. Meanwhile, most of the MSM is calling it for McCain. We'll see.
It is delegates to the Washington State GOP convention
that matter. PUBLIC PERCEPTION will not increase the number of committed Ron Paul delegates to the Minneapolis convention.
Bemoaning the media's treatment of Dr. Paul also, is an ineffective way of getting delegates to the convention.
Stop giving the media power. They use this power against all of us.
You actually care what they report about Washington State?
You are kidding me right?!
This is the 20th time they have jacked you upside the head in what? Four months? You want more?
Unify
Slapshot is a troll
You should take that into account when you read his posts.
Explaining how WA works isn't trolling
Bukojack claimed that, media be damned, Spokane hadn't reported.
I pointed out that WA reported precinct-by-precinct and that 90% of Spokane precincts had already reported.
He went off the deep end and called me all kinds of names.
Turns out, I was right.
I don't see what the troll is there. I just want an honest apology from bukojack and the "contact me" button on his profile doesn't work.
In which bukojack admits error and apologizes
Now that the counting has been re-started, it's readily obvious that Spokane had already been added, despite bukojack's repeated insistence that anybody who claimed it'd already been added was a troll.
See:
http://wsrp.org/News/Read.aspx?ID=7042
Do you want to apologize now, buckojack?
Sorry that the facts (every state reports precinct-by-precinct) stood in the way of your fantasy.
In other words, I was proven right, even though buckojack called me a troll for posting the truth about how the Washington count worked.
We think these results are
We think these results are from the straw poll, so they are pointless.
Irregardless they are not truly "votes", we don't "vote" for candidates.. we elect delegates who represent candidates (or not) to go on to the district, then the county, then the state caucus. Through this process we will send some 90 delegates to the National convention.. and this takes a long time..
This translates poorly to instant results that the MSM likes so instead of reporting the real results they reported these straw poll results.
Its not even really a "straw poll" .. its a sign in form for the caucus.
I don't know if it was the same everywhere, but here is how it went down in my caucus.
People came in and signed up for the caucus.. when they did this they were told to by the PCO to write down a presidential preference.. ALL the RP supporters wrote down uncommited in my caucus. However we elected ALL of our delegate positions to Ron Paul.. not to mention that some of the signup's were for McCain who got NO delegate positions at my caucus.
So the so called "straw poll" results were 100% NOT what we chose as delegates.
WA GOP turned this sign up form AKA straw poll, over to the press and these I believe are the results you see on all the MSM sites. (Someone correct me if I'm wrong)
No, not pointless, because...
because perception in the eyes of the public matters for future primaries. What is sexier to voters? Paul won more delegates or Paul won more voters? Voters, of course, which will help us earn more votes and more delegates. I'm sick and tired of people jumping all over those of us concerned with the popular vote and claiming that we just do not understand how the electoral system works. We get it, it is about the delegates. But a report like "Ron Paul won Washington" on CNN will be tremendously beneficial to the moral, momentum, and perception of Ron Paul's viability.
well, if that's true and
well, if that's true and it's anywhere near that for the final result it's going to be damn close! Just 15 votes off! So it would make sense if the MSM doesn't know... it would be impossible to know!
I hope you're right! Hopefully we can surprise the country tomorrow!
Here's the latest count at 3:42 AM EST
This is from http://wsrp.org/News/Read.aspx?ID=7042
Precincts Reporting
87.2 %
Candidates
Percentage
Huckabee
23.7 %
McCain
25.5 %
Paul
20.6 %
Romney
16.5 %
Other
1.1 %
Uncommitted
12.7 %
"You take the blue pill and the story ends. You wake in your bed and believe whatever you want to believe. You take the red pill and you stay in Wonderland and I show you how deep the rabbit-hole goes. -- all I am offering is the truth, nothing more."
13% left to report.
Well the whole idea is to keep Mccain from taking WA state and Texas.
Mccain is aware if he cannot win WA and Texas the chance of a Brokered Convention will be very very possible. He has to take Both. Most of the Winner takes all have passed. Now there is a real chance for him to not get the 1191 he needs. Ron Paul knows this that is why he has focused on Texas only. With Huckabee making his Grand Stand. His support will skyrocket after today. Slowly Chipping away the chance of a right out nomination from Mccain. This is also why the media is doing everything to stop the results from being counted. They cannot let Mccain loose WA if he does and it is only like 600 votes. The Republican GOP will look away from Mccain and start supporting Huckabee and Paul.
Actually that is the 10:55pm update very old
Actually that is the 10:55pm update very old look at the very bottom
That's Pacific Time which means 1:55 AM EST or 2 hrs ago.
What I find absolutely amazing is that the % never change! I've seen this before many many times in the GOP counts. What are the odds???
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"You take the blue pill and the story ends. You wake in your bed and believe whatever you want to believe. You take the red pill and you stay in Wonderland and I show you how deep the rabbit-hole goes. -- all I am offering is the truth, nothing more."
Slapshot is disinfo and his
Slapshot is disinfo and his karma will eventually lead to major heartache for him.
Or I'll be proven right
The WSRP doesn't lie, even if bukojack does:
http://wsrp.org/News/Read.aspx?ID=7042
Spokane had already been counted, even when you called me "disinfo" for pointing that out.
Truth is not disinfo
If Spokane already reported 90% of its PRECINCT results then 90% of the Spokane boost has already been counted in Ron Paul's Washington state total.
We've already used up the Spokane boost.
I'm sorry, but it's just a fact. I'm sure we'll see in the morning that I'm right.
You're only speculating
and assuming it's been added to the tentative tally before they postponed the results and went home to bed. You may not know until the morning whether they have or haven't. You could be right or wrong but conjecture and truth is not the same thing.
looked at his thread, and it went to the Ron Paul HQ
looked at his thread, and it went to the Ron Paul HQ Think about what he said - he is a Ron Paul supporter and he was counting up the totals, if he was a Ron Paul supporter I doubt he would be counting votes at the State GOP office or he would still be there as they are not done yet.
Think about it
Spokane ALREADY REPORTED -- See other thread -- he was there!
See this comment from somebody who was at GOP headquarters and saw Spokane being added to the results:
http://www.dailypaul.com/node/35847#comment-317792
no they didn't
Spokane Ron Paul supporters reported to RON PAUL HQ, not Washington State GOP HQ
No, he said it WAS REPORTED TO GOP
We'll find out soon enough that you're wrong, but he specifically says in the response that the GOP already counted Spokane.
Please stop dreaming. You're up for a big letdown tomorrow morning when we realize that Spokane already counted.
That's an interesting (fake)
That's an interesting (fake) vote total for the Huckster.
http://www.ronpaulforcongress.com/
http://www.spielbauer.com/Jekyll.mp3 (make it go viral)
www.ronpaulmoneybomb.com = $25/week to the Paul campaign
1983: Ron Paul Debates Federal Reserve Governor 2of7
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fCnzr566RR0
He may take the lead in the straw poll, looks like he won the
He may take the lead in the straw poll, looks like he won the delegates
Spokane ALREADY REPORTED
90% of Spokane has ALREADY reported.
It's already counted.
Stop this silliness.
Get off the thread
You don't have a clue, get off the thread.
What part of 90% reporting is unclear?
If 90% of Spokane has ALREADY REPORTED then it has ALREADY REPORTED and we don't get any more credit for it.
I'm sorry to destroy your fantasy world, but we ALREADY GOT the Spokane bump.
Each PRECINCT reports back, it doesn't matter if other precincts in the same area haven't reported.
90% of PRECINCTS in the Spokane area have already called in and had their results added to the 86% total.
slapshot - that was at Ron Paul headquarters not GOP
slapshot - Spokane reported to Ron Paul headquarters by Ron Paul people on the ground, the Washington GOP has not gotten Spokane County's votes yet because they are not finished - they will not send it to them in pieces - that would be impossible to keep up with.
Do the math for the last 10%
10% left, fantasy boy
This means that if Spokane had 2200 votes cast. Paul gets 46% or 1012, Huck gets 20% or 440 and McInsane gets 15% or 330 votes. The new totals would be
Paul 3813 votes
McCain 3798
Huck 3666
You forgot to subtract 90%
If 90% has already been added to the state totals, then we only get a 10% boost.
By your numbers, Paul would add 101 votes, Huck would add 44 votes, and McCain would add 33 votes to their STATE totals.
That's not enough.
Hmmm so what you're saying is
At 90% Paul has a tentative total of 2799 which includes a estimated figure of 1012 from ONE county alone, amounting to 36% of his total. It could be possible, I guess but it's not consistent with the all-day running figures which would have showed a large spike in Paul's favour at some time during the day. Did you see that happen?
mmm
it'll be close, i doubt paul will win but i'm glad he did so well
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