help, proof Obama will expand war, how to get info out

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A lot of people tell me they are voting for Barack Obama because he will end the war and send the troops home. I did research on this and found out what he really plans to do.

There are antiwar groups voting for Obama just for this reason. Maybe most dont care. Maybe they really are voting for him for his good looks. I was thinking of making a speech on youtube. I'm pretty boring though. The people who really want the war to end need to vote for Ron Paul. He is the only candidate who will do this.
Below is the information, I am pretty sure its all corrrect, let me know if you think something is not, or if I misunderstood something, its long , let me know what can be done with this, make flyers and mail them to anti-war groups, maybe make a commercial to expose Obama, anything. Please somebody,
Thanks

Good day my fellow Americans,

I am a Ron Paul supporter and I want to talk to you today about the upcoming presidential election and the Iraq War.

The polls have shown that the majority of the American people oppose the Iraq war and want it to end.

One of the presidential candidates running, Mr Barack Obama, is misleading the American people into believing he is the candidate that will stop this war. I will prove this is not so and that his plans are actually the complete opposite, to expand the war and increase the level of troops deployed in the Middle East.

On Mr Obamas webpage. www.barackobama.com,
under the section Issues – Iraq , scroll down to the sub title “Bringing our troops home”. That’s a totally misleading statement – should not even be there. A total lie. Read the paragraph, nowhere does it say the troops will come home.

He talks about removing combat brigades. According to the pentagon ,they make up about 23%of the troops currently assigned to the Iraq mission. So, he’s actually talking about a sub section of the troops.

Okay, so lets find out where these combat brigades will go when they are removed from Iraq. Lets look at Mr. Obamas plan called the
“ Iraq War De-escalation Act of 2007”,
okay, so section 3 of this act states that the current levels of the Unites States armed forces shall not exceed levels of such forces in Iraq as of January 10 2007. He doesn’t state what this number actually is. It would make it a lot easier for people if he did, but that’s okay, I googled it. Thank goodness for google. These politicians love to make simple things complicated.
So as of, January 2007: the U.S. troop levels in Iraq were at 137000.
Currently as of jan 25 2008, 157,000.00.
So the difference is very small, 20000.00.
The maximum number of troops Mr Obama would allow in Iraq under normal conditions is just a little less than the current amount. I say under normal conditions, because this act can be suspended allowing more troops if needed.

Okay , so lets find out what he wants to do with the troops he does remove.
In his act, under Section 4 – Redeployment – it states

Appropriate units of armed forces should be redeployed:
1. to the United States. Well finally , that’s what I was looking for, but wait, theres other places.
2. to Afghanistan, to enhance US military operations in that country;
3. elsewhere in the region, to serve as an over-the-horizon force to prevent the conflict in Iraq from becoming a wider war, to reassure allies of the United States of the commitment of the United States to remain engaged in the region to, and to position troops to strike directly at al-Qaeda, and
4. elsewhere, to meet urgent United States security needs.

We have just seen where the troops will be redeployed.
Now, from the combat brigades he does redeploy, lets try to find out how many will actually come home.

Lets do more research - In his webpage under the section Issues/foreign policy
He states Under the subtitle – Building a 21st century military:
· "Expand the Military: We have learned from Iraq that our military needs more men and women in uniform to reduce the strain on our active force. Obama will increase the size of ground forces, adding 65,000 soldiers to the Army and 27,000 Marines. "

I think this answers my previous question – how many troops will actually come home – sounds like 0. We have just seen, Obama will need more to help out in the Middle East. I wonder Is Mr Barack Obama planning a draft?

Mr Obama also claims he will not build any permanent bases in Iraq. This is an empty statement because the Pentagon does not call the bases it builds in Iraq “permanent bases”, but “enduring bases”. The pentagon has stated many times it plans to not build “permanent bases” in Iraq, but it does build “Enduring bases”.

Some last few points – in his De-escalation Act, Mr Obama mentions another Act called "HR 5122 - John Warner National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2007."

Lets take a look at statute 2444 section 1519: “no funds of this act may be used
to exercise United States economic control of the oil resources of Iraq.”

What does that mean? Why is this even included? Has their been problems with the United States using funds to economically control the oil resources of Iraq. I thought this war was first about ousting Saddam Hussein, then fighting terror, but nothing about controlling the oil resources. Is it included to reassure the American people thats not the reason were there? Or does it mean its okay if the United States uses other funds to economically control oil in Iraq?

Did you know this bill also encourages martial law allowing “the president to declare public emergency and station troops anywhere in United States to take control of state based national guard units without the consent of the governor or local authorities in order to suppress public disorder.

You know, I wonder if that’s what Mr Obama means by re-deploying troops to the United States. The definition or redeployment is to move military forces from one combat zone to another.

In his speeches to the people he says “bring the troops home”, I wondered why in his act he didn’t simply say “bring the troops home”, but instead “re-deploy to the United States”. Do you think the government is expecting an uprise of some sort among the American people? What other things will happen soon here or in the Middle East that will cause this uprise?

My fellow Americans, this is our last chance to change a brutal course the United States government is taking. Please think about everything we just went over.
Dr Ron Paul is the only presidential candidate that will stop the war, bring the troops home, ensure our safety and stop this country from collapsing.

All the celebrities out there who have spoken out against the war so many times. Where are you now? This is our last chance. Please, I am pleading to you.

Thank you for your time.
God bless us all.

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Very good post. I haven't

Very good post. I haven't checked your sources (links would be great!), but I will make one tiny suggestion. Try to remove some of the "conspiracy theory" stuff and concentrate on the facts concerning the actions in the Act and Bills that Obama supports.

You did some excellent research, and after polishing you could send this out as letters to the editor to every paper in the US for some good old fashioned "old media exposure."

I prefer Obama over McZombie.

You are missing the main point here. Who is controlling America now? AIPAC and Zionists. McZombie is their agent. He is showing it openly. If you try to deviate one iota from their state of thinking while you are running as a candidate you are doomed.

Look at Ron Paul. He advertised what he is loud and clear from the beginning and he is totally destroyed by them. Even his party rejected him.

Obama is playing it in the Middle. That is called wisdom. You don't give out all your secrets to your enemies from the beginning. I trust Obama over McCain.

Obama?

All talk and no substance. He is the typical talking head with no solutions only charisma. Too bad many of the American people vote based on how one presents their ideas and what they look like presenting their ideas rather than the ideas alone.

Well done...

Well done and well researched. I wonder what else we could catch him on. I'm going to try and get this out to as many people as I can. My friend recently called Obama "the antichrist." Definitely made me laugh until I realized how metaphorically true he was. All of those people (if they really want change) should be voting for Dr. Paul. Keep your eye on the birdie.

NOTE: I am not advocating violence in any way. The content of the post is for intellectual, theoretical, and philosophical discussion. FEDS, please don't come to my house.

important to show people Obama is NOT anti-war

bumping this up, as this is really important! it seems a lot of people still believe Obama's vague rhetoric, and think he is anti-war!

remember those exit polls showing that the reason so many people voted for McCain is because they *thought* he was ANTI-WAR?!

Well, same with Obama! people need to made aware that Obama:
supports continuing the war in Afghanistan
has said military action is not "off the table" re Iran
and pushes for invasion in Pakistan

and they think he is ANTI-WAR??

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To learn what really happened, check out
www.whatreallyhappened.com

Find out how "entangling alliances" interfered with the rights, and honor, of these U.S. Navy sailors from the USS Liberty www.ussliberty.org

Every Obama supporter needs to see this

Since most people are too lazy to read, can some one make a slick youtube video?

great idea!

using quotes from his speeches, interspersed with his statements to reporters & statements on his website!

need to show the contradictions!

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To learn what really happened, check out
www.whatreallyhappened.com

Find out how "entangling alliances" interfered with the rights, and honor, of these U.S. Navy sailors from the USS Liberty www.ussliberty.org

you can send this letter out

if you know any anti-war groups in your area, anywhere , or any people who strongly support to end the war, you can print this letter and give/mail it to them.

Or, if you see any obama signs in your neighborhood(i never have), print this letter and tape it to the sign, maybe someone will read it.

or, let your grass roots leader know, maybe they can find the best way to use this.

its a long letter, if you can find a way to shorten it up, make it better, go ahead, use it anyway you can.

I heard about anti-war groups endorsing obama just for the reason they believe he will end the war, I'm going to find out who they are, and mail it to them. You do this too.

We can do this!!!!

more proof - Obama will NOT stop Iraq war/occupation

CHECK THIS OUT!

found the link at his Issues page, Iraq war topic:
Obama's "Iraq Fact Sheet"
http://www.barackobama.com/issues/pdf/IraqFactSheet.pdf

p. 2 near bottom:
Residual Force to Remain. Under the Obama plan, American troops may remain in Iraq or the region. These American troops will protect American diplomatic and military personnel in Iraq, and continue striking at Al Qaeda in Iraq. If Iraq makes political progress and their security forces are not sectarian, we would also continue training the Iraqi Security Forces. In the event of an outbreak of genocide, we would reserve the right to intervene, with the international community, if that intervention was needed to provide civilians with a safe haven.

Now just how does this compare to his "anti-war" rhetoric?!

Obama supporters need to read beyond the soundbytes!

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To learn what really happened, check out
www.whatreallyhappened.com

Find out how "entangling alliances" interfered with the rights, and honor, of these U.S. Navy sailors from the USS Liberty www.ussliberty.org

I Heard Him in The Last Debate Hint To It

He said he would leave troops to secure our civilians and Iraqi people. I was thinking, what does he think we are doing now over there. He will not change a single thing over there. Dr. Paul is the only anti war man left.

win the democrats over!

win the democrats over!

blah

many democrats support the general idea of spreading our democracy through force they just didn't like the way Iraq was going at the time. Now that violence is at a low, they could care less that we are not wanted there and brewing hate, "as long as people aren't dying", same line as McCain.

Fine post!

You got me thinking real hard :) Ouch!

h-daddy

Good looks?

Maybe the crack he's smokin' is affecting that, too?

See vid. Pretty graphic.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sVeFVtcdSYY

"In the beginning of a change, the Patriot is a scarce man, brave, hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, however, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a Patriot." -Mark Twain

Good

Good looks? Lol.
Maybe a year ago but have you looked at him lately?
He gets the "aged the most over the past year" award.
The only person who could make him look good again is Hillary's plastic surgeon.

I heard him say with his own mouth

that he would remove the troops from IRAQ and send them to PAKISTAN.

Previously known as DCALIFANO

Previously known as DCALIFANO

Rule Of Thumb With Politicians ..

When a politician gives a realy LONG AND COMPLICATED answer to a simple question, the answer usualy isnt complicated.
I got my answer when Obama, along with every other democrat, refused to pledge that the troops would be out of Iraq AT THE END OF THEIR FIRST TERM AS PRESIDENT (January 2013).
That was all I needed to hear. They can talk for days now and I will not be listening ...
The troops are just another political football to them that they will pull out of the drawer when they feel like scoring some points with the public ..

Bump

Bump to drop old vote

References & Sources

You can find them here amongst others:

http://knowbeforeyouvote.com/

just sent this

to my email groups... I really hope it gets people thinking!

I also added the article I posted below re Obama may invade Iran,
and a note how exit polling shows that McCain is getting so many votes because people think he is anti-war, when in reality he is very pro-war & would stay in Iraq another 100 years if needed

oh - forgot to include Obama's statements re Pakistan!
any links for that?
~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~
To learn what really happened, check out
www.whatreallyhappened.com

Find out how "entangling alliances" interfered with the rights, and honor, of these U.S. Navy sailors from the USS Liberty www.ussliberty.org

Open Your Eyes Please

Watch this video of Obama:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MNCLomrqIN8

Or even this video from October 2007. Watch his hands:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PwgjYMw310U

Very natural hand gestures.

Now, since joining the CFR, you will note he did not make the super duper secret hypnotic CFR hand signal (the one that looks like the eagles head on the back of a US one dollar) he makes in every speech.

Now watch this video. Watch his hands at

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qzhBd_mizHc

All he does is make the super duper secret hand signal of the oligarchy.

"Walls are stronger than the men that defend them."

Ghegis Khan

"Walls are stronger than the men that defend them."

Ghengis Khan

Obama is CFR

He will do whatever the oligarchy tells him to do. They profit from war, he will fight war.

"Walls are stronger than the men that defend them."

Ghegis Khan

"Walls are stronger than the men that defend them."

Ghengis Khan

but maybe invade Iran instead?

you can add this too:
http://www.suntimes.com/news/politics/281249,CST-NWS-OBAMA03...

"Sen. Barack Obama said Friday the use of military force should not be taken off the table when dealing with Iran, which he called "a threat to all of us." "

so what's the difference? pull out of Iraq, make the same mistake in Iran?

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To learn what really happened, check out
www.whatreallyhappened.com

Find out how "entangling alliances" interfered with the rights, and honor, of these U.S. Navy sailors from the USS Liberty www.ussliberty.org

wished I had saved it...

when Bush gave his State of the Union and made some cowboy remark threatening Iran, the article said Obama stood up and applauded it!

please add your comments to Digg story

...with any supporting knowlege you have on Obama

bump - everyone should read

bump - everyone should read this.

Moral hazard (by wikipedia) is the prospect that a party insulated from risk may behave differently than it would if it were fully exposed to the risk.

on digg

http://digg.com/2008_us_elections/Proof_Obama_will_expand_war

Mathew 5:9 Blessed are the peacemakers: for they shall be called the children of God.

Google around for...

... Obama's AIPAC speeches, etc.

He said nukes were on the table for Iran...