Neo-Cons Admit Ron Paul Has "Changed GOP Forever"
Supporters need to value progress made in last 12 months and understand battle for liberty never ends.
Amidst a certain amount of resentment amongst some Ron Paul supporters that the Texan has decided to scale back his presidential campaign in order to secure his Congressional seat, the real progress that has been made over the last 12 months has been highlighted by an unlikely source.
Newsmax, which is largely a Neo-Con news outfit, admits in its new print magazine issue that Ron Paul may have "changed the GOP forever," conceding that he is "sparking an incredible movement of libertarian conservatives in the Republican Party."
Newsmax writes that Paul's message of small government, limited taxation, and reduced intervention abroad "resonates with millions of Americans" and compares the Congressman's impact to that of conservative icon Barry Goldwater, who fundamentally shifted the course of the GOP 50 years ago.
The Ron Paul Revolution is still in its infancy and Ron Paul will only be the figurehead of the movement for a limited period of time. When the time comes, new personalities will emerge but the fundamental drive and purpose of the movement will remain the same.
As we have underscored, America was not demolished overnight and it won't be restored overnight. This is part of a long process that transcends the issue of Ron Paul's presidential campaign. People who are so naive as to lose hope and abandon the cause at such an early stage need to realize that the struggle to revive liberty is a long and arduous battle which really has no end.
We really need to continually remind ourselves to take stock of what we as a movement have achieved in just the last 12 months alone.
Talk of abolishing the private Federal Reserve, eliminating fractional reserve banking and returning America to a truly conservative humble foreign policy is so prevalent that it's a topic of discussion on The Tonight Show With Jay Leno. Such a thing was unheard of five or ten years ago.
Ron Paul's presidential campaign platform has educated millions of Americans about real issues and we can now safely count on the fact that around 10 per cent of the U.S. population are fully awake and aware - that's at least double the amount of support the founding fathers could rely on during the Revolutionary War.
Such a widespread and highly motivated grass roots movement is the antidote to the poison of big government and tyranny that has been injected into the heart of America since 9/11.
Beyond Ron Paul and beyond the 2008 presidential election this unprecedented freedom movement will remain a major force in politics - but only if Ron Paul supporters can have foresight and understand that the war is not over - it has only just begun.
http://www.propagandamatrix.com/articles/february2008/021108...
I agree completely.
I was thinking about this after the flurry of doubt this weekend and before my caucus here in the state of Washington -- and even IF Ron Paul doesn't become the presidential nominee, we won't unlearn what we've learned about the political process.
How many of us were ever involved in caucuses or becoming delegates or precinct officers or any of that before? Very few I'd say.
And, if RP isn't the next president but he's in Congress, we have someone who can alert us about bills coming down the pipeline and we can make our opinions known to our local Congress-critters. AND we can identify and vote into office those who share similar ideals.
I'm in this to the end, and totally support RP for President, but IF that doesn't happen, many of us are still in this Revolution.
The Revolution in Both Parties..
that is where we need to be. The NeoCons, a small ideological minority, have done just that, with think tanks and so forth on each side of the "D" and "R" divide....
We must learn from their success. Trust me, they are learning from ours.
Treg / Tempe, AZ
Notice Newsmax made no mention of Internet Regulation
That is because the main investor to Newsmax, the billionaire Dick Scaife, really, really wants to see all men background checked before being allowed to talk with women online.
So they say we libertarians are all about low taxes and less foreign intervention. Right. OK. How about more freedom overall?
I just took this cool video of a young German woman who wants Ron Paul because he won't regulate the Internet:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vjzNdW2Gi9g&feature=user
...but watch your back.
I agree we should allow republican leadership to make overtures to us, and I would suggest engaging in productive dialog with them, but watch your back too. A friend of mine warned me that the Republican Liberty Caucus is just a holding tank to 'contain' the problem children. He decided that after being a member for a while. On a personal note I once got sucked in to the party because they appealed to me due to 'religious values'. Unfortunately, that kind of bargaining is just a trick to get votes, and much of the party leadership will walk away from Christians and other Religious supporters at the first opportunity. Don't be fooled; they will dangle carrots from a stick so you'll haul the party load for some multi-national agenda, and forget about you later.
It is a Trap
The GOP wants to pacify the revolution and then grind it down. If we have changed the party, who is funding Chris Pedens to run against Ron for congress? That do everything to sabotage Ron Paul from trying to keep him out of debates, blackout in the media, and now running someone against him. I think it is naive to care what the GOP or neo-cons think about Ron Paul. Their actions speak for themselves.
How many of you would vote for Ron Paul if he ran in the Democratic primaries?
changing parties
I changed parties to vote for Ron Paul. I would do it again in a minute, no matter what party it was.
Many people have changed parties to vote for him.
gma
"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety, and ultimately will have neither."...... Benjamin Franklin
"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety, and ultimately will have neither."...... Benjamin Franklin
I would vote for Dr. Paul if he was Democrat, Libertarian, Green
it doesn't matter to me what party he is running on...as long as he stands for the constitution is all that matters.
You are right about the GOP...their actions speak for themselves.
Jesus is the saviour of the WHOLE WORLD, "As in Adam all die, so too in Christ ALL shall be made alive." (ICor.15:22) All means all. The pagan 'hell' of literal fire & eternal torment is a lie and is SPIRITUAL TERRORISM. http://www.hopebeyondhell.net/blog
Ignore him until McCain wins the nomination...
and then suck the Revolution in as if they were a part of it.
Don't get me wrong, If they allow a crack, we'll bust it wide open.
Exactly
I think so too. They KNOW they can't go on as they are - only because they won't win any elections.
They will coopt the bits they can tolerate (reduced spending, maybe slightly reduced intervention overseas) and ignore the meat (NON-intervention, abolishing the Fed, abolishing IRS and Education).
THEY HAVE NOT BEEN WON OVER!!!! They are just staring down the barrel and they know it.
They are a**holes still - imo.
"What does conservatism today stand for? It stands for war. It stands for power. It stands for spying, jailing without trial, torture, counterfeiting without limit, and lying from morning to night."
Lew Rockwell
Great!
I just got a request this morning from a local GOP group in NH who wanted me to invite the RP supporters from his town to their next meeting. He said "RP had good support here". They need us! Please work within!
If I could add one thing to that
"Eternal vigilance is the price of liberty." -- Wendell Phillips
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"There are a thousand hacking at the branches of evil to one who is striking at the root." -- Henry David Thoreau
Strike at the root - Watch Money Masters
"There are a thousand hacking at the branches of evil to one who is striking at the root." -- Henry David Thoreau
Strike at the root - Watch Money Masters
Thank you for the video link
I have added this to my favorites.
I also love your quote by Henry Thoreau....Yep, we have all got to STRIKE the ROOT in ONE ACCORD so that it will bring the DEATH BLOW to the Federal Reserve once and for all.
Jesus is the saviour of the WHOLE WORLD, "As in Adam all die, so too in Christ ALL shall be made alive." (ICor.15:22) All means all. The pagan 'hell' of literal fire & eternal torment is a lie and is SPIRITUAL TERRORISM. http://www.hopebeyondhell.net/blog
The Federal Reserve Corp
might be technically "non-profit', but it's member banks are definitely "for profit".
Case in point, when the fed issues money, it purchases securities like T-bills as a basis for it's lending. When the Fed wants to issue more money, it buys these securities from the gov., and deposits them in the member banks.
The "catch" comes in with the fractional reserve banking system, where the member banks are allowed to loan out 10 times the amount that they have in their "reserves".
That's where the banks make their money, and create the money out of thin air. The owners of the Federal Reserve are also the owners of the member banks.
It's a "shell game", where the "Federal Reserve" can ostensibly be "non profit", when it is still raking in the bucks via it's member banks.
Great Youtube Video Idea!
This made me think of that new Batman: The Dark Knight movie trailer line where the Joker says "You've changed things.....forever". Wouldn't it be funny if someone did a funny version where McCain's head was placed over the Joker's and Ron Paul's head was Batman. You know because McCain is crazy and Ron Paul is a hero. Similar to that 300 spoof someone did. From what I remember of the trailer you wouldn't even need to change the dialog. I just think that would really crack some people up and I'd do it if I had any video editing experience.
“Remember that a government big enough to give you everything you want is also big enough to take away everything you have.” Barry Goldwater
Someone beat me to it
and did a Guiliani one. Hilarious.
Tell them to leave!
Regardless of the outcome, we must continue to chase the Neo-cons out of our party.
grant
It sounds like they
It sounds like they recognize that the Revolution is bigger than just a mere political movement and that it will not fade or fizzle away.
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"Men do not willingly read unpalatable truths of themselves. The People like those best who fool them most, by pandering to their vices and flattering their foibles" Raphael Semmes
long live the r3VOLution!
long live the r3VOlution!
Trust in God, but tie your camel tight.
"Socialism needs two legs on which to stand; a right and a left. While appearing to be in complete opposition to one another,they both march in the same direction." - Paul Proctor
I have been feebly .....
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The seed has been sown...
it shall be nurtured and it will grow into a tree and it will bear fruits.
"He who exercises government by means of his virtue may be compared to the north polar star, which keeps its place and all the stars turn towards it." Confucius
"He who exercises government by means of his virtue may be compared to the north polar star, which keeps its place and all the stars turn towards it." Confucius
The presidency is merely a
The presidency is merely a single battle in the Ron Paul Revolutionary WAR.
I believe we will have more of an impact on the GOP over the course of the next two-four years than Barry Goldwater ever had. Goldwater inspired a course adjustment to the GOP, a major one, but still just a course adjustment. But Barry never had neocons to deal with. The Ron Paul Revolution is more of an about face, than an adjustment.
WE are the future of the GOP. We WILL take back what is rightfully ours.
Let Bush, McCain, and Hillary start their own party for the neocons. The Grand Old Party, is OURS.
WOW..
bump
Great post
but I disagree that there's anything wrong with fractional reserve banking.
in the western tradition, fractional reserve banking is immoral
It was previously known as usury in the Judeo-Christian tradition. It is not allowed in the Muslim tradition. It is considered immoral because it subjugates the borrower to the lender.
Someone who borrows money willingly subjugates himself to the lender. By doing so, he is giving up his inalienable right to freedom.
For Jews and Christians, the bible is quite clear on the consequences of the practice of lending money with interest:
He oppresses the poor and needy,
commits robbery, does not restore a pledge,
but lifts up his eyes to the idols and commits
abomination, He lends money on interest and
takes increase; will he live?
He will not live! He has committed all these
abominations, he will surely be put to death;
his blood will be on his own head.
Ezekiel 18:13
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"the only thing that keeps the banking system from failing is general ignorance about how the banking system works."
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i'll bet
your checking and savings accounts are keeping you awake at night with all of that evil intrest you're drawing.
Fractional reserve banking or not
and religion or not, most people will not lend their money without requiring interest. The very idea that it is immoral make no sense. That would make all trade immoral, since that's all it is.
So, there is nothing wrong with theft?
So, there is nothing wrong with your money being debased to the point that if you were making $15.00 per hour today that it is comparable to making $0.74 per hour in 1913? That same $15.00 is comparable to making only $2.81 per hour in 1970. One Dollar today is the same as $0.05 cents in 1913 and we all have the Federal Reserve and its Fiat Money to thank for it.
In essence, we are little more than living in a Peonage Society, paying continual rents in the form of taxes and inflation tax while our labor has been effectively stolen by this system imposed upon us by the Federal Reserve System of Intentional Inflationary Theft. Nothing wrong with that, right?
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"Men do not willingly read unpalatable truths of themselves. The People like those best who fool them most, by pandering to their vices and flattering their foibles" Raphael Semmes
That's not what I was referring to
I was referring to fractional reserve banking.
I'm opposed to price inflation of course, but fractional reserve banking doesn't necessarily lead to inflation. WIth money backed by gold there would still be fractional reserve banking.
Actually, anytime a bank
Actually, anytime a bank relinquishes its fiduciary responsibility by accepting a fractional reserve system instead of a 100% reserve system there is, and must be a creation of remittances of credit on the non-existent reserves. In the case of a fiat monetary system, either the government via the taxpayer, or the depositors themselves must eat the deficit in case of bank failure. The history of actual payouts by the FDIC, in cases of failures, has proven dismal with far less actually being repaid to the original depositors in such cases. Fractional-reserve banking activity under the fiat monetary system tends to lead to a marked distortion in the structure of various types of production and contributes to business cycles where booms and bust are more likely.
There can also be an argument that fractional-reserve banking also threatens the property rights of the depositor by placing risk on the property of the individual depositor. In a fractional-reserve system the individual depositor is placing his property into the thin air and confidence of reserves that are not actually held by the bank under its fiduciary mandate of protecting that individual’s property. Since is it not possible to create property when none is available, the fractional-reserve system always places a person’s property at risk. In a very real sense, the depositor has hedged his funds within the fractional-reserve banking system based upon the funds deposited verses the funds in reserve.
So, whether commodity specie, like gold is used or a fiat money is used in a fractional-reserve system the results will still be the same, a creation of bills of remittance or credit created where there are no funds to perform a fiduciary responsibility to the individual using the bank to deposit his property money. In other words, if you rely on a fractional-reserve system of banking you are placing your property at a certain degree of risk based upon that deficit between the amount of actual reserves, otherwise known as a fraction and the amount on deposit. In either case you will have a monetary disequilibrium within the entire monetary process since in a very real sense the money that is not in reserve is money that doesn’t exist. This is particularly true of a fiat fractional-reserve system since all fiat money must be borrowed in order to come into existence.
At one time there was no fractional-reserve system, only a system of 100% reserve was considered proper and legal.
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"Men do not willingly read unpalatable truths of themselves. The People like those best who fool them most, by pandering to their vices and flattering their foibles" Raphael Semmes
Ok
but fractional reserve banking has to be legal in a free market. If a depositor agrees to place his money in a bank with knowledge of this lending practice, with knowledge that his money may not be there if there's a run on the bank, that's the risk he has chosen to take. In a free market, the market/consumers would decide what the reserve fraction should be, if any.