Top 5 investments in case of a recession

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Talk about the next big bubble.

Farm land. This biofuels thing is about to come crashing down. Land prices will follow.

Goldman Sachs: Brace For Recession In 2008

Goldman Sachs: Brace For Recession In 2008
Wall Street's Biggest Investment Bank Predicts Housing, Credit Turmoil Will Shrink Economy
Recession In The Forecast

Job growth is slowing, the housing slump is in its third year, and the '07 Christmas season was weak. Is a recession on the horizon? One prominent financial firm says yes. Anthony Mason reports

(CBS/AP) The biggest investment bank on Wall Street has a grim prediction about 2008: a recession is definitely on the way.

Goldman Sachs on Wednesday said it believes the housing slump and recent credit market turmoil will spill over into the broader economy this year. And, by the time it's all over, economists believe the Federal Reserve will cut interest rates to 2.50 percent from its current 4.25 percent.

There is a silver lining to the dire prediction, however, since Goldman projects the economy will recover as soon as 2009, making this downturn somewhat "recession-light."

"The recession is likely to last two to three quarters and should be relatively mild by historical standards, with a cumulative decline in real GDP of only about a half percent," Goldman economists' Jan Hatzius and Ed McKelvey said in a research note.

A recession is when the economy shrinks for six straight months, reports CBS News correspondent Anthony Mason. The last time that happened was 2001 after the dot com bubble burst.

Goldman switched to an "outright recession call" following recent economic reports that indicated a spike in the jobless rate, and a decline in home sales and manufacturing. They also expressed concerns that sluggish consumer spending will contribute to a recession.

The economists expect the Federal Reserve will aggressively lower rates to combat the credit crunch, including a half-point cut at its Jan. 29-30 meeting. The contracting economy is likely to push the unemployment rate to about 6.25 percent by late 2008, potentially hurting corporate earnings.

Goldman also expects that Congress and the Bush Administration will push through a temporary tax break later this year as part of a fiscal stimulus plan.

What would all this do to stocks and bonds?

Economists predict that consumer spending will likely post a small outright decline - unlike in the 2001 recession - as the housing downturn contributes to a negative wealth effect and consumers find it harder to obtain credit.

This will put pressure particularly on stocks in the consumer discretionary, financials, industrials, materials and information technology sectors. Sectors that might offer investors some protection in a recession, however, include health care, consumer staples, energy and utilities.

Meanwhile, bond prices are expected to rally as risk-averse investors pull money out of stocks and boost demand for safer, albeit low-yield, investments. Goldman predicts the yield on the 10-year Treasury note - which moves opposite its price - will fall to 3.5 percent by late summer following interest rate cuts. The 10-year yielded 3.78 percent on Wednesday.

All the recession talk has the markets on edge, reports Mason. Stocks rallied Wednesday, but the both the Dow and the Nasdaq are still down more than 10 percent from their recent highs.

Experts are predicting an ugly 2008 as inventories of unsold homes grow and a large number of adjustable-rate mortgages reset, sending more homeowners scrambling to make higher payments and pressuring the already shaky credit markets. What worries industry watchers the most, however, is the possibility that the housing troubles will plunge the economy into a recession.

"I think everyone is expecting the other shoe to fall. There's still some blood to be let," said Jim Gaines, a research economist at The Real Estate Center at Texas A&M University. "And historically, a downturn in the housing market has been a leading indicator of a recession."

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Costa Rica...land and reforestation...all in one !!!

The world demend for hardwood will not be detoured by a USA depression. Neither will Pacific ocean view property in a "perpetual spring" like climate. Low cost of living ( electric $15...water $4...internet $18 ).

Interested ?
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All But #1 Suck and it will just hold the value of $

In a deflationary / stagflation you will lose your ars on Timber and Realestate. Copper will go down, gold will hold steady. All of these except #1 are no good. A country with low correlation or no correlation to the us is good. But, now you have to worry about getting your money in and out. Govt, regs and what not.

The way to make money is to be long a Bear Market ETF like QID.

A couple things on this I'll disagree with

First, timber... I'd normally agree if it was just the case of a recession. However, a recession fueled by a housing bubble collapsing is not going to help anyone holding building materials.

Second, overseas currencies.. I'd stay away from the Euro... possibly consider Chinese Yuan but not until thier market flattens out after our downslide.

Third, real estate. Housing bubble collapse. Probable 50% devaluation of property, especially coastal properties. If you buy into us merely sliding into a recession that we will pull out of then current economic models put real estate bottoming out in 2010. Be a good time to buy then. If you go by a more realistic model, pay off where you are living now and don't worry about investing in rentals that you'll not be able to get a return out of.

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Real Estate

CAN be a good investment.

Those that owned rental properties during the spectaculer RE meltdown in the 1980's in Texas will tell you that. In fact, rental rates actually went UP because no one could buy. Suddenly, there were tons of people being evicted from their homes that needed a place to live.

I own rental property and would not consider selling right now. I have at least 50% equity in all of them and own my personal home outright. Even if times get real bad, I can reduce the rental rates and still make money off of them.

I also own timber-producing land. Not all timber is sold to build homes. I do believe we can still export....especially with the falling dollar. And if prices get too low, just wait and sell next year. We get significant property tax breaks for owning timberlands so it costs very little to hold the property (unlike vacant residential or commercial property).

You have to buy it right, but there can still be some worthwhile finds out there. I never stop looking for the next opportunity.

I know nothing about foriegn currency, etc. I'll just stick with what I know: real estate. I own enough land that I can farm part of it if needed.....No going hungry here. Not wealty people, but we've lived a VERY modest lifestyle and have slowly accumulated real estate over the years....It's what I know.

I'm thinking of buying a little more silver. All I have now is an old collection of silver coins that was willed to me many years ago. I might actually have to go into the attic and find it now that I'm reading so much about silver these days.

I'd normally agree with real estate

As a hedge against a recession... it makes sense in that context. However, I'm pretty confident that we're headed towards a depression. A 20% unemployment rate will not help you in the rental business in that case. It will protect your wealth if you own the properties free and clear, yes. But as a consistent revenue stream I think it may be a tad risky. However, that is an opinion of my father's so he may be off base... I'm taking his advice since he's so far been right on everything else...lol.

As far as farmable land, I'm in perfect accord with you there, I've done the same. We've gone from living paycheck to paycheck to having 17% of our combined incomes as overhead. We're not what you'd call wealthy either, but our lives have certainly gotten less stressful.. ;)

Silver and gold are the best way to transport wealth through an economic crisis historically. So I'd say they are still a safe bet.

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I'm not advocating

that people run out and buy real estate. Way too many people watched the Get Rich Quick infomercials on late-night television and got themselves into some really bad real estate deals....Suddenly they were "investors"! Armed with 2 hours of bad advice, they ran out there an overpaid for poor construction in a crappy location with a terrible mortgage product. They deserve the foreclosure that is happening to them.

I've been doing this for years; my family has been in the rent biz for 3 generations now. It's what I know. It's what I'll stay with.

One other thought: All real estate is local. The local investors almost always do better than the out-of-towners that don't know the nuances of a particular area/market. This applies to residential property and not commercial, about which I know nothing.

But I also disagree with those that are screaming that everyone should sell now. I happen to own rentals in an area with a large number of renters that work for the government....Not jobs that are likely to be outsourced; no lay-offs in sight. I would happily buy more in that area if they could be purchased at the right price. Again, all real estate is local and decisions should be made on a case-by-case basis....Not on the basis of someone else's bad experience, but on the mertis of each investment.

Again, I could cut my rents almost in half and still break even. You MUST buy it right, no matter the market/time/economy, etc.

real estate

is a good investment if you can hold it through the recession and beyond.

currently, i own too much and am now forced to sell in a buyer's market. that said, i still will do o.k. but, i will buy gold and silver and foreign currency stock with the funds earned.

I disagree with #5....

I disagree with #5.... realestate is a downer... unless its farm land!

“A prudent man foreseeth the evil, and hideth himself: but the simple pass on, and are punished.” (Prov. 22:3; 27:12 KJV)

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