WHO ON DP THINKS WE ARE GOING TO A BROKERED CONENTION?

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I'll wager $25,000 that it won't

If anyone is interested, let me know.

I think it's still gonna go

I think it's still gonna go brokered unless huck drops out, but honestly... I think huck is actually in the best position of the 3 candidates, being in the lead at this point in the race makes you a huge target for swiftboating and McCain is gonna feel it for the next few months.

I think any uncommitted delegates will swing to Dr. Paul in a heartbeat if he gives a really revolutional speech about the real roots of the GOP and makes it clear that Obama/Hillary will completely DEMOLISH McHuckacain.

I'm watching the delegate count

i still hope, but sometimes i think we should use our organization to deny John McCain delegates, even if that means voting for huckabee, as long as our people can get the delegate spots.

I think it is likely that

I think it is likely that Huckabee will drop out soon and you will see the media proclaim the election over, however Paul will continue to run and continue to pickup delegates. If the current trend continues the Convention could very well turn into a anyone but McCain attitude and very likely many of the delegates who wouldn't ordinarily support Paul may cast there vote for him as a protest vote and unexpectedly it could very well turn into one crazy convention.

Then again the press may declare that McCain has won over the hearts and minds of conservatives and then the so-called conservative delegates who watch the MSM will decide that if the media says so than it must be true and will cast there vote for McCain.

Heres hoping enough people with brains get elected or appointed as delegates to the National Convention

Extremism in the defense of Liberty is no vice.

Yes

We are going all the way to the convention. Neither Paul nor Huck will give in. The nominee will be decided there.

Hang in there everyone!

To me, it's all about the delegates...

with Megamillions Mitt out, there could be a lot of shuffling going on. I live in Oregon, and our primary is May 20th. I am trying to sign up as a delegate, and have emailed both the GOP and the RNC to let them know that if they want to save the party, they will get behind Dr. Paul.

Right on! I did too (write

Right on! I did too (write the party) everyone should. Just copy something off this post:
http://www.dailypaul.com/node/37745

Mathew 5:9 Blessed are the peacemakers: for they shall be called the children of God.

Take it to the Convention

The delegate count is a fickle thing. It is based on the rules of the national GOP and the rules of the States, Districts and Territories GOP's.
Each State has diffenent rules, even for pledged delegates of candidates who have withdrawn.

I do not pretend to know the particulars well enough to offer an educated opinion, but as a trench worker in the freedom movement since the early 90's, I think I have seen and done enough to offer a biased opinion.

Should McCain not gain a majority of delegates in the first ballot, Dr Paul has a shot to take the nomination. If he can fire up the convention crowd the way he fired up CPAC, and it comes down to a second or even a third ballot, he may win the day. It is OUR job to work toward that goal.

Those of us who have been in the trenches for some time know that the nomination is and has always been about delegates. Not to say that primaries and caucuses are not important, but whenever we have a chance to put one of our people in as a delegate, be it county or State, we should do it. Delegates are the key.

I have read that Lincoln, at the 1860 convention had only 22 pledged delegates, yet he won the convention.

There is something going on that we don't know about

Ron keeps saying that "things" are going to come out about the other candidates that will cause a stir up...What do we not know??

If we have no more Louisiana's and what they are trying to....

pull in Washington state, we should have a brokered convention. The problem we face is dirty politics not only at the national level but also at the local and state level as well. I strongly believe we can get the needed delegates from here on in; there are a whole lot of ardent and dedicated RP supporters. The obstacle of getting to the convention could very well be the aforementioned dirty politicians and bureaucrats at the state and local levels. These are the ones who need to be meticulously monitored for possible corruption.

Huckabee said last night

Huckabee said last night that he will remain in the race until someone hits the magic number, 1,191. By the way things are looking, nobody will win that many delegates. Huckabee is implying that he will take this race all the way to St. Paul. When asked if he would be McCain's VP, he said he doesn't think McCain will want him as his VP after staying in the race.

Thank you, Mike.

Oh my gosh

He may be dumb enough to drop out! hahaha

Mathew 5:9 Blessed are the peacemakers: for they shall be called the children of God.

The establishment will start

The establishment will start to crap their pants when McCain gets thumped in Texas. Texas has 138 delegates, and without it McCain cannot win. A brokered convention is all but guaranteed after he loses Texas. Ron Paul and Mike Huckabee should draw 75-80% of the vote together. McCain cannot win the 1,191 delegates necessary to secure the GOP nomination, especially after losing Texas. He will not win.

Its a long way

to November!!! ANYTHING can happen!! Keep the optimisim, canvassing, delegates and the donations rolling in!

"I think we are living in a world of lies: lies that don't even know they are lies, because they are the children and grandchildren of lies." ~ Chris Floyd

I think...

... if the economy gets better and if they keep a lid on Iraq at least until the RNC convention and if Dr. Paul doesn't have any significant surprise dirt on the other candidates then I don't think the American people will give Dr. Paul a chance. They will choose to pretend everything is ok.

But, if the economy goes south really quick(which it looks like it just might) or if something serious happens in Iraq or Iran or if Dr. Paul has some really powerful dirt one one of the candidates, say McCain, then I think Dr. Paul has a chance...

Ya just never know in politics....

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Eisenhower: "Preventive war was an invention of Hitler"

I think it will be a

I think it will be a brokered convention and when it sinks in that the republicans might end up with McCain, panic will set in and they will be looking for an exit plan on that idea

There will be a brokered convention

and McCain knows it. This is why Romney jumped on board like a good soldier- not for the remaining primaries but for the actual convention process.

What Are The Odds Of McCain Getting 65% Of The Remaining.....

"bound" delegates? Anyone?

No way

Hate to be "that guy", but with McCain's own already won, plus Romney's "most" if they follow his direction, plus almost all the "unpledged" party officials who will totally vote party line, McCain has more than enough already. Huckabee is going to drop out as soon as his total passes Romney, just so that he can say he came in second.

No chance for a brokered convention, and I'll be very surprised if Ron Paul even gets a speaking moment.

The Republicans are totally corrupt. Trying to save this party is a joke. Convince Ron to run on the Libertarian ticket. Otherwise 6 months from now we will be back at square one -

"WHO is Ron Paul?".

"Luctor et Emergo" - Struggle and Emerge

I have no doubt there will be a brokered convention

but, and this is a big BUT......we need delegates and we need to vote against McCain from gaining more.

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A perfect God is not made imperfect by imperfect people.

Become a delegate and worry about it later

The only control we have is whether or not we get off our butts and become delegates. It only takes one Saturday morning at this point, so everyone just do it. If it turns out there is no brokered convention, then we'll all yell RON PAUL RULES at the convention or something. But we need to be represented at the convention, brokered or not.

Ron Paul's chances are zero IF...

Ron Paul's chances are zero if he has no delegates. It doesn't matter who has supposedly won what to this point. The delegates in most states have not been chosen. The delegates that are chosen could potentially be for any candidate.

Here is the bottom line.

If there are no Ron Paul supporters going through the process of becoming a delegate, he'll have none at the convention.

Lets put this another way, what incentive do Romney supporters have to go through the process of becoming a delegate? If he does not have supporters becoming delegates, then his call for them to vote for McCain is meaningless.

Brokered convention or not, Ron Paul has ZERO chance if none of his supporters become delegates.

I am going through the steps to become a delegate in my state, and I encourage everyone on this site who supports Ron Paul to do the same. Money bombs, media bombs, marches, none of this matters if we do not become delegates to the national convention. There is NOTHING more important that a Ron Paul supporter can do than become a delegate.

BECOME A DELEGATE!

I do - 100%

Dr Paul is wicked smart - I firmly believe that he knows precisely what is happening here and if you read between the lines of his last few messages, he's far from throwing in the towel on this one.

As posted elsewhere in depth, the convention is far from sewn up for McCain. He has a lot of theoretical delegates but the actual delegate count for him is way lower than is being reported (in terms of actual people who will freely vote for him at the RNC). Dr Paul, on the other hand, has WAY more actual, devoted delegates ready to go to the convention at his side than anyone has even come close to quantifying. That's clear from what we see every time there's a primary or caucus - there are numerous threads on here from people saying that their district swept the board for Dr Paul in terms of actual delegates when the official figures tell a very different story. I for one know who I'm going to believe.

Thing is, I think the powers that be have shot themselves in the foot here. They obviously went into Super Tuesday with 'Whoever comes out on top gets the nod' attitude. McCain stormed it, so he's their boy now. What they seem to have completely ignored though is that every true conservative in America HATES John McCain - and rightly so. He stands against everything they stand for.

For my money, that's what this march is about. The Republican party is in disarray. Support for their party at the primaries is at a record low, they've pointedly kept Dr Paul out of the race by consistently pretending he's never been in it and none of their chosen few can raise even a glimmer of excitement among the party faithful (which are a dwindling group already). When we throng the streets of the capital with over a quarter million freedom loving Americans, with the good doctor delivering his finest speech to date at the focal point, there is no way in hell people can ignore that.

There are already organisations springing up for the sole purpose of stopping McCain getting the nomination - powerful conservative groups are banding together to boycott his nomination and talking about voting for the Constitution Party in defiance of this farcical crap.

We already have a significant presence at the convention because of our hardworking soldiers on the ground (delegates and precinct captains). When it comes time for the march, Dr Paul will deliver to a mass audience on the steps of the Capital the message that everyone with any sense in the USA is crying out for: a return to the rule of law, a renewal of all our freedoms and the reinvigoration of the Constitution.

For me, one of the biggest things we can do right now is appeal to the traditional conservative voices in this country. We've already reached a number of them - Barry Goldwater Jr, 'Jane Roe', Glenn Beck (sort of), Tucker Carlson, a host of senators and congressmen and governors, the American Conservative Association, the National Taxpayers Union ... but we need to reach more of them. The Christian Right organisations that are crying out for someone with integrity, the 2nd amendment groups, the pro-life groups, the Rush Limbaughs and Newt Gingrich's of the world. They all of them agree with Dr Paul, but they just don't seem to realise it. If we can make them see the light, with their political weight behind us we can ride the wave that our Freedom March will create all the way to a brokered convention and we can stage a revolt against the anointed candidate in favour of the only true conservative in the race.

Someone else posted something about taking the foreign policy question out of the argument and I'm inclined to agree. This is the sticking point - too many times I've heard them say, 'His approach is the most traditionaly conservative but his foreign policy approach is too simplistic - I don't agree with it'. Focus on the fact that he wants to return to a Constitutional approach to conflict and the war - that he will hand the decision to Congress where it should have rested in the first place - and leave any talk of actually leaving Iraq to the Presidential debates, where it will win people over in their thousands.

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Live Free or Die - Amen to that

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Live Free or Die - Amen to that

I agree

and this is something that prayer can and will be very effective and changing.....
Christians, agree with me right now (and those who believe in the laws of intention or meditation or whatever if you would go ahead and agree too) in Jesus' name that those people in positions of power and authority and leadership in the American public eye will have their eyes opened and will see the truth and will change their minds. I pray that they will be awakened and that they will join the fight to save the Constitution and America..Lord let their hearts be softened to admit they might have been wrong, and that we need change bigger than they thought before. And I bless each and every one of these people and remove all of the curses that stand in the way of their seeing the truth, and forgive them all in the name of Jesus, Yeshua.
Amen.

**That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them

Mccain

is the nominee. I hate it as much as you guys do and wish it were different but he's the nominee. I'm not voting for him, not sure who I'm gonna vote for. If Ron Paul ran on a third party ticket I'd vote for him, I might consider Obama and will look at the third party candidates this year.

NO .........he's not

You cannot say that yet, unless of course you are the corrupt old media.

Storm the convention

I hear people saying lets have a march on DC and now I am hearing storm the convention. There is no doubt in my mind this will be a brokered convention. Most of us are dedicated to going to our state conventions and becoming delegates. When we get to the convention McInsane will not have enough committed delegates and I hope it doesnt come down to these super delegates this could be the biggest problem. At any rate we will be heard and we will be heard from for a long time to come. So the bottom line is stack the deck at your state conventions and we can win this thing. Keep up the good work and lets change this party forever

Security Budget at the convention: $18 million

Grassroots Support for McCain: $0
Taxpayer-funded Security Budget for the RNC convention: $18 million
Dedication of Ron Paul Supporters: PRICELESS

RP2012!

Do Republicans have Super Delegates too?

I'm not sure why, but I thought this was on the Democrat side.

Yes, we have "super delegates" too.

We don't call them that. They are just called unpledged delegates. And there are something like 400 of them. And they are generally Party Bosses. Normal people do not get to be these delegates. This is, just like with the Dems, how they wield enough power to squelch any sort of grassroots uprising in the convention.

These unpledged delegates are often congressmen, state party officials (chairmen, RNC national committeemen, etc), and the like. Mark my words, if there is a significant threat to McCain being the nominee, these unpledged super delegates will vote for McCain to the man...every single one of them.

And yes, it sucks.

RP2012!