Dr. Ron Paul - "Father of the Second American Revolution"

Stick with Ron Paul. If he loses the nomination and Rudy is the designated jobholder, I personally will put in a vote for Hillary along with you. If it's neither Paul nor Rudy for the nomination I just won't vote at all which has been my practice since I registered many a year ago. Don't even think about abandoning this great man because of a few asinine devotees!

I don't agree that "We either make this work, or forget it." The prospect of not having a 'leader' doesn't change the ideas he's cultivated in so many of us. People have awakened. Have you not seen the signs that say "Dr Paul cured my apathy"? So we should just throw that away? Is that what I worked so hard for, so you could throw it away?

"...people who run this party don't even like the Good Dr. And they are trying to stop him. Moving up NH dates so that Democrates can't re-register, and moving up the date of the actual primary so that hopefully the Good Dr's train can't get enough steam built up."

Huh? NH is going to have to move up the election to beat the other states who are doing it, so THEY can stay 'first in the nation'. Once the date is set, there is a law that sets the deadline for changing parties. This has been gone over ad nauseum, to no avail. All one had to do in NH is stay 'Independent' and they could vote any way they wished in the primary. Since that deadline has passed I am now working within the GOP. Today I went to a town function and spread out my literature and buttons on the table. Out of 50 people in attendance I gave out around 10 buttons. I'd say 20% is pretty good don't you? (I was even in the presence of the Senator who said Ron was 'un-American'. He avoided me. LOL)

"We either overwhelm them with our guts, efforts and commitment.."

Exactly! You take all this empowerment and do what with it, dump it? Or use it? Bush does not define your local organizations. If you were in NH you'd see what I meant. He is only one person.

"IF this thing don't work, then I go back to not voting"

What a shame..Is that what you think Dr Paul would want you to do? I'm sure he'd say, take all this energy and revitalize a party to restore the republic. After all, we now outnumber those who are phasing out..the old guard who have let things deteriorate. I won't ever give up and neither should you.

It's pretty clear that Jane is not advocating to vote Republican no matter who the candidate is. If you think that, then you are missing the point. The point she's trying to make is that when all is said and done, we need to stay united together, stay organized as a group, and continue to reach out to people. We need to help them understand that they are not alone, there are others out there with the common goal of restoring the Constitution, reviving personal freedom, and taking back our country. This group, whatever label you want to slap on it, needs to continue to grow in numbers until we are the majority.

The real question is how. Do we do it under the Republican party? The The Libertarian Party? The Constitution Party? Or do we go and create yet another party - The Paulitarian Party? Right now, the most realistic possibility is to take over the Republican Party, or should I say, TAKE BACK the Republican Party.

The two party system is so engrained in American politics, that trying to break that apart is now near impossible. Sadly, the majority of American people do not think the "fringe" parties are credible. Breaking that mindset would be an extremely daunting task. I'll admit it, I didn't even know what a Libertarian was until this campaign. So, for at least the next 50 years, we are stuck with the Republican and Democratic parties.

Now, the Republican Party USED TO stand for small government, low taxes, non-intervention, and respect for the Constitution. In fact, it was not that long ago. But over the last few decades, the party has been hijacked by the neo-cons and the fear created from 9/11 was cleverly used to create a new pro-war, pro-spending, big government, less personal freedom Republican Party. So much so, that many people in the Republican base did not even realize it. I was one of those people.

Many people are Republicans because they still stand for small government, low taxes, etc... They know that Republicans have lost their way, but they stick with the party because they are still anti-socialist, anti-Democrat, and hope that someday the party will go back to it's roots. In other words, they stay with the party because they still think it is the lesser of two evils. Other Republicans have been brainwashed by fear. They still believe in the core values of the original Republican party, but they have been scared into believing that they have to give up their freedom for security. Little do they know, they have neither. For these people, all they need is a wake up call. You can already see that many of them have received that wake up call - they are the ones abandoning the Republican party.

The fact is, the Republican Party is here to stay. There are still many people that believe in the old-school principles of the party. They just need a little education to find out that they've been duped. These are the people we need to reach out to and talk with. If we can help them understand this, we can build back the original Republican Party from the inside out. This task is far easier than trying to destroy the Republican party from the outside, and trying to build up a third party.

If you don't believe me, then just look at Ron Paul. He understands the bias against third parties. He understands that the BEST way to bring about the changes he stands for, is through the Republican Party. We must take note and follow his lead. We must take back the Republican Party. It is the most realistic solution.

You'll notice Jane did not say to vote for the nominee or anything of the kind.
But she did say that once we revitalize the party with the correct ideas, we will eventually be victorious even if not this time. Else if not, what meaning did the word 'revolution' have? You need *something* to revolutionize. We are not rewriting the constitution, but going back to supporting it, are we not?

I don't know where in the piece I said to support the nominee if it's not Ron? I have in fact said many times before, that if they DON'T nominate him, it's a sure win for Hillary...because they won't have enough GOP, Indies, and Libertarians voting for the GOP nominee to beat her.

And saying you will never again vote 'repug' (an insult to me who ran and will run for office as GOP) is ridiculous. I also said it's only a label, one of two we have to work with. If Ron ran again would you vote for him? I think so. You have to get over this 'repug' business, it's destructive. You don't expect me to become a Demcrat do you? I am at odds with socialism so I could never do that. If a house is falling down for lack of paint, it's not the houses fault. It's the occupants/owners that have fallen down on the job.