After This Election, I am Leaving The GOP and I Let Them Know It
Below are the contact email addresses of many of the main characters of the GOP. I have let them know that due to the submergence of Ron Paul's message of the Constitution along with McCain on the road to a Republican nomination has lead me away from their party and I will be leaving the GOP for good after this election. Of course we need to still vote for Ron Paul.
The Libertarian party is calling us after the election is over and done.
Since the age of 18 I have been a soldier in their fight for what we thought was good, but the path they have taken the American people and us down is something that I do not agree with, I find it necessary to tell them accordingly. The Constitution has been trampled on and it is a direct result of the GOP Big Brother policies. I have had enough.
Their party is dying and it is worth politely telling them.
Chairman@gop.com, Administration@gop.com, Counsel@gop.com, Finance@gop.com, MemberRelations@gop.com, ecampaign@gop.com, Membershipservices@gop.com, Political@gop.com, RNCommunications@gop.com, Info@gop.com





















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It's a little early to be
It's a little early to be making a firm decision yet, but the topic is sure a good one...
On one hand, no third party candidate (Perot aside) has ever broken 2%, no? I think Ed Clark got over a million votes in 1980, but then again he didn't have the relative star power of RP (nor the history in Congress). Perot was a special case, because he didn't really build anything that lasted; he just spent a whole bunch of his own money. This makes the case for staying in the GOP.
On the other hand, if Ron doesn't get the GOP nod, McBane will get absolutely trounced by the Dems (which is what is planned anyhow, right?), and the resulting mess will open the door for one or more new parties to make their move. If RP then gets drafted by the LP/CP, he will pull at least 10 million plus in the general election. Of course we all now how bad things will be by then, and selling the public on new parties will be that much easier. So now we have a case for third/fourth/etc. parties.
On the third hand, let's say RP wins the GOP nod... Now we're golden!!! And once he's president he can switch to the LP or CP, right?
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Don't leave. We need you,
Don't leave. We need you, and everyone else for that matter. Don't leave the GOP...take over the GOP!
Not Leaving Yet
This is a threat to leave the GOP if things don't change. You have to wonder why this information on McCain has come to the table after a mass of emails to the GOP threatening to leave.
The deck is stacked so much against the LP.
Face it, bro. The two party system is here to keep other parties marginalized.
"Free government is founded in jealousy, and not in confidence; it is jealousy and not confidence which prescribes limited constitutions." Thomas Jefferson, Kentucky Resolutions of 1798
I have to agree unfortunately
Folks, we need to be realistic here. The Libertarian Party will NOT, by any stretch of the imagination, be a force in the political arena any time soon. The real way to change things is to do what we're doing with even greater effort. We MUST work within the Republican Party to enact change. Ron Paul would never have been in Congress so long outside of the Party.
3rd parties are 100% ineffectual. The system has made sure of that. The only option is to work from within the system and change it from the inside out. We're making headway rather quickly I think.
Reward the GOP?
Reward the GOP for what they've done to Ron Paul by staying? By supporting RINOs? That will only encourage the GOP to do more of the same.
The ONLY thing that could possibly turn around the GOP is if they knew they could not get our support unless they offer a real Constitutionalist. If we support their frauds and their party, we will keep getting more of the same (Bush, McCain) and they will NEVER have a reason to do otherwise.
I will support Constitution party or Libertarians from now on. Republicans only if I know they are Constitutionalist, and usually once you get past the local level, they are not.
I'd rather do right and lose than do wrong and win.
I don't think you understand
I don't think you understand what I meant. You don't have to vote for the rotten neo-cons. On the contrary, vote for whoever you want but to think that leaving the RP will accomplish a single thing is delusional. The Libertarian Party isn't going anywhere and never will. We have to be intelligent if we want to get anywhere.
all the more reason
This is so. All the more reason one doesn't join the so and so's who run the D's and R's. It's simple logic. If you want to end corruption you don't become Al Capone, you get rid of Al Capone.
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Ron Should Leave The GOP...
...and he should abandon his bid for Congress.
Above all, he needs to recognize that he's just warming a seat in Washington.
If he left, he could have a far greater impact doing good works with our support OUTSIDE the system, just like Al Gore is doing (moving on has been especially kind to Al Gore).
I think Ron could be far more effective giving up his old job and taking advantage of his global appeal. Going back to Congress is a waste of the message and the messenger.
Now THAT would be a genuine REVOLUTION!!!
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I Don't Know About That Just Yet
He has to continue in his path right now as do we. I am strictly talking about after the election. The seed has been planted and we need to see the outcome. If the outcome is not what Ron Paul needs, then we can move. And that was the point I was trying to provide. Notifying the GOP on a massive scale that we are displeased with their behavior and suggesting that if things don't come out in favor of Ron Paul and the GOP controlled media doesn't help our cause, then I am out,. Read the initial post carefully.
I agree with you 100%! The
I agree with you 100%! The republicans are beyond saving. The neocons will have it until the Republic is no more. Far better to expose them!
Thomas Jefferson:
"If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their money, first by inflation and then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around them, will deprive the people of their property until t
GOP Wants us GONE!
Um, I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but when people say I'm leaving the GOP if Ron doesn't win, I cringe.
Thats EXACTLY what the neo-cons want. A failed Paul campaign, and then for everyone and all his supporters to leave the GOP
It seems quite obvious that their plans would be right back on track if we left.
Remember, we are a new force in the GOP. Lets take advantage of that. If Dr. Paul doesn't win the nomination, that should encourage us to recruit even more constitutionalists into the party, since there's a lack there of.
So please, if Dr. Paul looses, it's clearly our fault; and since the GOP is made up of ummm, People, we should work to replace the inefficient, with the efficient.
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No they want us to fall in line
If all the liberty minded republicans or Taft conservatives left the party than they would lose at least 25% of the party. If the party continues to embrace the McCain types the party is done. I am seriously considering the constitution party. It is the fastest groing party. Unfortunately for us we will likely be the USSA soon. A socialist state, and part of the world government. If McCain wins it will be worse than Obama. I know Obama will try and bring in the new new deal. He is quoting things Ayn Rand wrote that socialists would say. Regardless, if Obama wins than the Republican party will have to regroup and figure out why they lost. They will lose to - in the house and in the senate.
In the big scheme of things I don't think we will recover from the policies of recent years and another 4 years of the like. It hurts knowing that this generation has thrown away any chance of our kids knowing freedom and prosperity.
Constitution Party?
I'd read their positions a little more carefully. They sound like they promote the Constitution like McDonalds promotes healthy eating... sounds good, but it'll kill you in the end.
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They won't care. They are delusional in their belief that McCain can beat a Democrat this year. Ron Paul is the only Republican that could beat a Democrat in these times. The only good thing though is that we are becoming the new Republican Party and the future looks bright.
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Logic
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Galactic Whacko said:
"I believe Dr. Paul intends for us to remain in the GOP to TAKE IT BACK! Then it will be OUR party again. If we leave it... Where do we go? The system is already slanted against third parties."
This is illogical. The GOP has been one of the two parties which have rigged the process against others. Therefore, it simply and obviously is illogical to decide to reform the system from within the GOP. Ain't happening. Didn't happen for the first 10 congressional terms of Rep. Paul. Indeed, during Paul's time in office the GOP went from merely corrupt to irredeemably corrupt.
There is NO logic in saying that you won't fight the corruption, and instead will join it, because to fight it is hopeless. That's exactly what is being said by those who suggest that joining or staying in the GOP is the best way to effect positive change.
Draft Ron Paul to run outside the GOP http://www.draftronpaul.com . Let him know he's needed, that you'll continue to support the cause, but that you know that to keep on doing what he's been doing for 10 terms in congress just ain't making it.
When you keep doing what you've been doing and hoping for a different result, well, isn't that the definition of insanity? Yes, and that's the simple cold truth. He isn't going to reform the GOP and neither is anyone else.
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After This Election
I'm done with all parties. I don't even think there should be "parties". It is a way to divide the people, not unite them. We are individuals. We should vote according to issues, not on party platforms.
Marhlfld said: "I'm done
Marhlfld said:
"I'm done with all parties. I don't even think there should be "parties". It is a way to divide the people, not unite them. We are individuals. We should vote according to issues, not on party platforms."
Absolutely right.
This is not a time for party building...we've got to stop a wildly out of control government which is into nation building and which has squandered our blood and treasure. Two parties have done this, the GOP and the D's.
You don't reform corruption by becoming Al Capone...and that is what you are doing by trying, vainly, to reform the GOP.
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If you leave, the neocons will be happy to see you go.
Dr. Paul has run as an independent before, and he learned that the process is so onerous for alternative parties, that it makes more sense to try to fix one of the major parties instead.
The Republicans are about to lose in a landslide. The last time that happened, when Carter destroyed Ford, it was an opportunity for the Republican party to get its act together and choose Ronald Reagan.
The same thing will happen this time, too. The party will want to know how they got beat so bad, and the answer is obvious: they tried to play the Socialists' game. What's the solution? Be Republicans again: choose candidates who will vote for small government, sound money, and a humble foreign policy.
The way have an effect is not to stream out of the Republican party when this election cycle is over, but to get everyone you can INTO the Republican party.
As for the Libertarians, anytime there's a Libertarian candidate who you support, then by all means vote for him.
-jcr
"The problem with trying to child-proof the world, is that it makes people neglect the far more important task of world-proofing the child." -- Hugh Daniel
Yup... That does seem to be the goal.
I believe Dr. Paul intends for us to remain in the GOP to TAKE IT BACK! Then it will be OUR party again. If we leave it... Where do we go? The system is already slanted against third parties.
We need more recruits. New ideas and innovative ways of gathering more interest. Here is what I propose
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Does my burka make my butt look fatwa?
Just read in the local newspaper....
this morning that the Oregon Republican Party is almost $300,000 in debt, and they are downsizing. I sent all of the Oregon GOP an email a couple of nights ago stating that if they don't organize around Dr. Paul, we are finished. I am trying to become a delegate in Oregon for Dr. Paul also. About a month ago I received a survey from the Party, and at the bottom it asks for a donation. I wrote all over the survey about the policies that I disagreed with as a conservative Republican, and then at the bottom noted that I already donated to the only TRUE conservative running for President-Dr. Ron Paul. I hope they removed me from their mailing list. I've been a registered R since I was 18 (23 years now), but I've always been Libertarian minded. It's my understanding that in Oregon, unless you are a registered R, you can't vote R for President. That is why I've stayed with the party for so long, but I am ready to bail. In local issues I mainly vote Constitution and Libertarian. The local and state R candidates sound more like D's every day, and it makes me sick. Their arguement is that we live in a liberal state-I don't buy it, just look at what Dr. Paul has had to endure.
Staying
It's MY party, and I'll cry if I want to.
GOP was stolen by neo-tards.
I want it back.
It still has name recognition. It still has a symbol (The Elephant)
I think it would be faster to fix the GOP, than to re-establish Libertarian party.
It's still established as a main party, and thats an important part of the battle.
"I don't endorse anything they say"
~Ron Paul On the 911 Truth movement.
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I disagree.
"It's (GOP) still established as a main party, and thats an important part of the battle."
No, it's an important part of the problem.
Why are so many people arguing for us to stay aligned with the Republican party when they haven't shown the least bit of respect to Ron Paul supporters? If you think we need to rebuild the R party so that we can battle the Democrats then you're completely missing the point (imo).
I don't want to reform a party so that they can reap all of the undue benefits of a large membership just so we can be a force for the Democrats to contend with. Regardless of whether or not it could be done, we'll still have a 2 party system (essentially) and we'll still have this endless fighting over policy.
I want to drive as many people out of both parties so that the parties themselves lose their power. Let's all become Independents and urge everyone we convert to become one as well.
Aside from the unfair advantages the parties enjoy, what good reasons could there be to try to reform the Republican party?
Please tell me, because I don't see any. And until someone shows me that there is a good reason to stick with the GOP, I'm going back to Independent the day after the primary.
Why try? Are you seriously asking that question?
what good reasons could there be to try to reform the Republican party?
Two reasons:
1) the history of the Libertarian and Constitution parties. They've tried real hard, and hardly gotten anywhere, because of the bias against alternative parties.
2) bringing more people into the Republican party, especially if those people are RP supporters, doesn't just give them more numbers to point to. It brings in a new way of thinking, and people who are far more active and involved than the typical Mitt or Rudy supporter ever was.
-jcr
"The problem with trying to child-proof the world, is that it makes people neglect the far more important task of world-proofing the child." -- Hugh Daniel
Branding
Nike. Apple. Starbucks. Disney. Coke. Republican.
When a successful company sells their business, part of the purchase price includes all the "good will" that company name has engendered. The new owners of the company may suck big time, but because they still use the established name, people believe they're getting the same quality they had before, even if things aren't quite, well, as good as they were before. Yet they continue to purchase the familiar brand. That's because the brand name still means something to a LOT of people, regardless of the actual content.
Suppose that the Libertarian Party somehow became mangled and rotten through and through; they would still probably call themselves the "Libertarian Party" because brand marketing works, and the party would want to retain as many loyal "customers" as they ever had with that particular name. And while many in the LP would smell the coffee, there are plenty who would continue to stay with the party because, hey, it's the "Libertarian Party"!
The brand named "The Republican Party" is a long established name. It has actually changed quite dramatically over the many years of its existence (did I need to tell you that?), but notice that the brand "Republican" still means something to a LOT of people, regardless of the actual content.
Are you getting this?
I gave up my Libertarian membership specifically so I could support Ron Paul. I left a personally-preferred alternate brand name, in order to support and promote a product of actual substance, who happens to use the brand name of a "major" party that I don't personally care for. Clearly, I'm not the only one who has done this. While being registered as a Republican makes me nauseous, I recognize that the name is nothing more than a label.
We now have the opportunity to make that label mean something other than what it has meant in recent history. We have the power to restore it to its original intent. This is called rebranding. And when done with confidence and dedication, let me tell you: rebranding WORKS.
We have a great many supporters in this revolution, numbers that are growing every day. Strength in numbers, friends. "Join or Die", remember? So, we join together, throw all of our efforts *within* the Republican Party, and what happens to the brand?
The substance of it changes dramatically.
We don't have to change the name of the brand (the label). We don't want to.
Those who have been "customers" of the Republican brand will continue to "shop" Republican -- and they'll begin to notice a fresher taste about it, too.
However, when we retreat to our various corners (Libertarian, Constitutionalist, Decline To State, etc.), then our resources become scattered and impotent. All our accumulated aggregate power vanishes.
What I propose, and others have also proposed, is nothing short of a hostile takeover, but done in a very smooth and friendly manner, not unlike our delegate operation. Infiltrate. Smile and nod and chant the brand name. Change it from the inside.
This can be done. It's been done before. Just look at Ron Paul. The Republican(tm).
Branding: Enron. Bre-X. Neocon. Atari. Exxon.
Those who have been "customers" of the Republican brand are precisely the people who DO NOT WANT a new taste, and will actively, deviously, maliciously and intentionally act to keep it the same. Please witness the past 6 months. Good luck convincing a whole generation of trough-fed, porked up, big government hogs to go to the slaughter.
Please give us ONE example of how Ron Paul actually influenced the modern republican party IN ANY MEANINGFUL WAY....and he has been there how long?
Ron Paul is ostracized within his own party....why he stays is beyond be.
Don't ask me to make the same mistake.
"Luctor et Emergo" - Struggle and Emerge
Ron Paul hasn't had any impact on the R party...
"This can be done. It's been done before. Just look at Ron Paul."
You're making this statement as if Ron has single handedly transformed the Republican party in his image. The Republican party HATES Ron Paul! Am I the only one who understands this for Christ's sake?
The one bone of contention I have with Ron Paul is that he is loyal to a party that hates him. I know why he's doing it, because he has to. Well, WE don't have to. We have the opportunity to make a useful change in America. That is to remove the party bias from politics. Let's start an Independent revolution and make the parties have to fight for our votes again, instead of just taking them for granted.
What a wonderful world that would be, wouldn't it? And guess what? That's the world I'll be working towards. Not a world where we still have 2 parties fighting each other, keeping 3rd parties down, etc. Forget about how noble one of them is. It still isn't effecting real change.