FROM THE DAILY DOSE: The National Delegates Will Decide — And We Can Take the Delegates

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The National Delegates Will Decide — And We Can Take the Delegates
February 21st, 2008 by Dan McCarthy
Can Ron Paul win? Is the battle for the Republican nomination over? Field Coordinator Adam de Angeli provides the answers in this important message, which he asked me to pass along:

“The best way to predict the future is to create it.”

-Peter F. Drucker

Hello Precinct Leaders,

On Tuesday we taped a video featuring campaign manager Lew Moore and national field director Debbie Hopper. The video is available on YouTube. In the video, Lew answers questions submitted by supporters, and Debbie discusses the importance of the Precinct Leader program. Debbie also announces the “Ring for Ron” program, which will be released in the next few days. This improved system will replace our “call a voter in a state with an upcoming election” program within the Precinct Leader system. It will have specific messages targeted for each state, and a far better phone list of identified Ron Paul supporters that we must ensure will vote on their election/caucus date. You will not need to be a registered Precinct Leader to take part in this program, and supporters will be given a particular state to call (as opposed to the program now, where each call goes to a random state within a specified range).

The points that Lew and Debbie emphasize in the video are precisely those we need to focus on right now: turning out at the conventions to win delegates, identifying as many Ron Paul supporters as we can, and keeping our movement together in the face of discouraging results. The Precinct Leader program is our armory: this is our database of volunteers, of supporters, of coordinators, and of results.

Regardless of the mainstream media’s interpretation of recent events, Ron Paul is determined to stay in the presidential race. Dr. Paul must defeat his Congressional opponent in the March 4 primary and must campaign in his district for the time being, but in the meantime there is still much we can do to win Dr. Paul delegates to the Republican National Convention. Although we are well into the primary season, no primary and no caucus, not even in sum, determines the nominee. The nominee is decided at the National Convention, by the delegates chosen from state conventions, from those chosen from district and county conventions. It is tempting to assume the race a “lost cause” and abandon it for simpler pursuits, but there are two very important reasons not to: because the assumption is false, and because the assumption debilitates our movement.

Given poll results, media coverage, and the like, it may be hard to believe that Dr. Paul can still win the nomination. But you must understand that the nomination process is not a fixed procedure governed by the Law of the Primary; the Republican Party is a private organization, free to change its rules at any time. It may not be customary, but it certainly cane be done.

If we turn out for the county conventions as we turned out in the streets, we will decide who goes to the state convention. Likewise, a strong turnout at a state convention gives us the ability not only to elect national delegates but to change the state party rules—to unbind the national delegates, for example. It might be a long shot, but this is no different from two months ago.

A great number of disgusted patriots in the Republican Party will not suffer a nominee who refuses to defend the right to bear arms and to acknowledge the need for a strong border. And deep down, they know that every empire is a setting sun. If we don’t show up at the conventions, we’ll be forgotten. But if we turn out, if we prove where the future of the party lies, other Republicans will first accept and soon believe in us.

The only obstacle, then, is our own determination and confidence. This is why the “we cannot win” attitude is so debilitating.

In Washtenaw county, Michigan, every Ron Paul supporter who showed up to the county convention–including people who had not even been registered members of the Republican Party—was elected as a delegate to the state convention. At a county convention in Alaska, Ron Paul supporters comprised the majority of delegates in attendance, and they not only elected themselves to the state convention, they dramatically altered the local party’s statement of principles and other rules.

If enough of us believe in our movement and stay with it, we will triumph. Now is the time to act. Call your state party, get the deadline for filing to be a national delegate, get the date of the county conventions, learn the rules, and rally your troops. This is our Valley Forge, where the citizen patriots who stay in the fight will emerge well-trained political soldiers.

Any substantial number of Ron Paul delegates to the national convention will advance our cause of restoring the Republican Party, and thus the Republic itself. This restoration is not only desirable, but desperately needed. Scattering ourselves over an assortment of alternative parties, interest groups, and grassroots organizations will not work. We derive strength from unity. And to put it bluntly, we have well-financed enemies who aren’t above posing as friends. Beware the dividers.

So stay with us, keep fighting, and remember, the future is unwritten!

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How about a court injunction

held in reserve in case party officials attempt to violate their bylaws and rules of order? A judge might be able to issue such an injunction in advance that would be applicable in such circumstances. Might even be able to decree that whatever motion is on the floor when the abuse of power occurs (preventing the delegates from exercising their rights under the bylaws and rules of order) will be legally construed as passed, and the Chair vacated for malfeasance. Thus, if the PTB don't follow the rules and accept a motion to change the rules, they'll lose even the chance of winning that vote and staying "on track" for their agenda.

Pure speculation, you understand ... I'm no lawyer.

Do you have a link

for the Daily Dose? I got "no matches" when I did a search.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9At-PejXNIw

**the soul would have no rainbow if the eyes had no tears**

It's on the HQ site

ronpaul2008.com

Thank you...duh...didn't

Thank you...duh...didn't even think of looking there...oops feelin my face burnin here lol

**the soul would have no rainbow if the eyes had no tears**

RULES CAN BE CHANGED BY THE DELEGATES THEMSELVES!

OpenGOPConvention.com is a project of the federal Patriot PAC, and in the coming days and weeks we will be mounting an aggressive campaign of media ads and drumming up grassroots support all over the country with one goal in mind:

… TO STOP THE NOMINATION OF JOHN MCCAIN!

But That's Not All…

What happens if John McCain can secure the magical number of 1191. That makes his nomination inevitable, right?

WRONG!

The delegates to the GOP Convention are bound by certain rules and THOSE RULES CAN BE CHANGED BY THE DELEGATES THEMSELVES!

Remember the Democratic National Convention of 1980? Senator Ted Kennedy's supporters — seeking to unbind the convention delegates ON THE FIRST BALLOT — actually mounted a credible challenge to the rules.

Of course the challenge failed because a majority of the delegates were already committed in their hearts and minds to President Jimmy Carter.

But McCain is no incumbent president. He's not loved! Ask yourself, what would happen if the delegates actually had the opportunity NOT TO VOTE FOR JOHN MCCAIN ON THE FIRST BALLOT?

Mathew 5:9 Blessed are the peacemakers: for they shall be called the children of God.

Don't you think the GOP's

Don't you think the GOP's desire to win will be overridden by any desires to circumvent the delegate system, especially now since the GOP has "apparently" chosen McCain as favorite son and the Democrats are as organized as a bowl of Cheerios?

Our main reason to stay in this is to INFLUENCE the platform. Don't any of you try to fool yourself into thinking that anyone but McCain (the snickering schoolboy) will end up representing the GOP in the end.

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"The main thing that I learned about conspiracy theory is that conspiracy theorists actually believe in a conspiracy because that is more comforting. The truth of the world is that it is chaotic..." —Alan Moore

YES

If we have a majority of the delegates, YES we can win. We might not even need that if there are enough others who refuse to support McCain. The party rulers have no say here when we, the delegates, make our decision.

This needs a bump

Read this and know we are still on track.

Terrific Job!!!

In Christ,
Dave

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Grace be to you, and peace, from God our Father, and from the Lord Jesus Christ.

In The LORD Jesus Christ;
Dave

"where the Spirit of the LORD is, there is liberty." 2 Cor. 3:17

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"...and the rockets red glare, the bombs bursting...."

let's do the delegate bomb run...HIT THE TARGET BOYS!!!

2Chronicles 7:14 If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.

now that is the bomb we need!!

Go Ron Paul delegates!!

bump

bump bump

Those who expect to reap the blessings of freedom must. like men, undergo the fatigue of supporting it.-Thomas Paine

The R3volution requires action, not observation!!!!

bump

bump bump

Those who expect to reap the blessings of freedom must. like men, undergo the fatigue of supporting it.-Thomas Paine

The R3volution requires action, not observation!!!!

Nice pitch!

Let's keep it going.

New Hampshire and Ecuador

Thank you for that posting

it was a much needed shot in the arm.

What about the super delegates?

They don't sound like our kind of people.Do they have the final say?Are we worried about them?
I am a delegate but don't know much about the process yet.Want to know what I am up against!

Super delegates only apply

Super delegates only apply in the democratic convention not the republican.

I have been telling people this for months see my post here :

http://www.dailypaul.com/node/36650#comment-356610

Not true

The GOP also has superdelegates--not as many as the Dems, true--but they most definitely do, at least three per state.

salt-of-the-earth

same?

They have "at-large" delegates, but is that the same as the Democrat's concept of "superdelegates"?

And WHO ARE DELEGATES?

Regular people. Thus, we need to reach AS MANY PEOPLE as possible with this message. Name recognition is important. It helps the canvassers. Thus anything we do to show our numbers and pull is a good thing. That will help persuade them.

www.RingsideRevolution.com

Does my burka make my butt look fatwa?

What is your problem?

I mean, aside from sounding like a complete asshole? Your weak shit will not deter me, or anyone else, from our appointed rounds as RP delegates to County, State, and hopefully, national conventions. Divisive, negative bullshit is your game, asswipe, so why don't you take it somewhere else? Fuck you very much.

Was this level of negativity

Was this level of negativity and profanity really necessary? just sayin.....
I am one of the folks here who would rather keep our battles outside cuz when we bring them in here it feels counterproductive to me.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9At-PejXNIw

**the soul would have no rainbow if the eyes had no tears**

you don't really understand

you don't really understand how this works do you? its all about delegates.. and who has the most of them.. sign waving, video making, putting a bubmper sticker on your car does not get the nomination.. its supporters willing to go to the precint caucus and get voted/elected as a precinct delegate.. that is where rubber meets the road folks.. not with the popular vote like MSM wants you to believe... how many of you are delegates?

“A prudent man foreseeth the evil, and hideth himself: but the simple pass on, and are punished.” (Prov. 22:3; 27:12 KJV)

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NO, it is NOT all about delegates.

Every candidate MUST WIN the majority of "delegates" OF RECORD from at least 5 states to even have his name placed into consideration.

The chances at this point in time that Ron Paul's name will even be ELIGIBLE to be put into consideration for nomination from the floor are fast approaching ZERO.

The only way a brokered convention can select anyone OTHER than the front-runner is if he/she is dead or incapacitated, or if there is a MAJOR scandal (like something causing an indictment of the candidate themselves) that effectively eliminates them from consideration.

THEN, the party leadership (NOT the "remaining candidates") will determine WHO is to best to be "anointed" from the candidates that DID win in 5 or more states, and will thus promote THEM first.

ONLY if ALL of those possibilities FAIL will an "open" brokered convention happen to SELECT someone who did NOT win the minimum number os states. If THAT happens, multiple OTHER party establishment names will be placed into play, and someone "acceptable" to the party in general would be selected.

Unless Ron Paul somehow has over 51% of the delegates as "trojan" delegates who are also willing to VIOLATE their "bound by oath or affirmation" and vote for him on the first round... well even that is just a pipe dream.

Long story short, either RP gets out and SERIOUSLY CAMPAIGNS enough to actually and CLEARLY, PUBLICLY WIN a few of the remaining states (second and third do NOT count) -- then it's all BS.

I agree, there are way too

I agree, there are way too many posters here living in (or taking a dip in) denial. Snap out of it!

..................
"The main thing that I learned about conspiracy theory is that conspiracy theorists actually believe in a conspiracy because that is more comforting. The truth of the world is that it is chaotic..." —Alan Moore

What does it hurt?

Fortune Favors the Bold

to keep fighting?

The one thing that doesn't abide by majority rule is a person's conscience."
- spoken by Atticus Finch, by Harper Lee, To Kill a Mockingbird

"Courage is not a man with a gun in his hand. It's knowing you're licked before you begin but you begin anyway and you see it through no matter what. You rarely win, but sometimes you do."
- spoken by Atticus Finch, by Harper Lee, To Kill a Mockingbird

"Best way to clear the air is to have it all out in the open."
- spoken by Atticus Finch, by Harper Lee, To Kill a Mockingbird

Fortune Favors the Bold

a majority of support

Fortune Favors the Bold

means delegates. we can accomplish this in kentucky, texas, alaska, nevada, north dakota, and a few other places. It is a long shot, but it doesn't hurt to try.

Fortune Favors the Bold

Where do you get your info

Where do you get your info from : YOU ARE WRONG ON EVERY ACCOUNT.

Ron paul has already received the majority of delegates in more than 5 states. STOP LOOKING AT THE POPULAR VOTE.

Did you know that delegates can actually overturn the party rules at the convention if you have enough of them?

I put the delegate process in depth here :

View the delegate process here : http://www.dailypaul.com/node/36650#comment-356610

BUT SIR YOU NEED TO STOP TELLING PEOPLE ABOUT THINGS YOU KNOW NOTHING ABOUT because you are not helping in any way by doing so.

Hey drink the Kool-Aid if you want kiddo.

I'm not looking only at the preference primary poll results.

And as a matter of fact, unlike arpy-sheeple like yourself, I *do* know what I am talking about.

Have you read the RNC call document? (Not just the state "summary" thingee, the full document). Do you event know what that is?

And I have read your previous posting -- most of it is VERY optimistic, but sadly a lot of it is also BS. Your categorizations of delegates being bound only through the first round are significantly off-base. Many states require their delegates to remain "bound" until the candidate they are bound to either formally releases them, or that candidate fails to reach a certain threshold % of the vote.

And in the final result, YOU don't seem to understand that the delegates are part of "state delegations" which have as de facto "leaders" and "whips" the three "party-establishment" delegates (the head of each State GOP and the two RNC people). They will be VERY alert for anything considered "shenanigans" by delegates and will find ways to either mute or create a "cause" to literally expel any delegate(s) they consider troublemakers (and since THEY will know the people and ways to get YOU expunged, but you will be powerless and unable to prevent it... if you cause problems, you will simply find yourself "plopped" out on the sidewalk and your place taken by an "alternate").

There might be a few RP supporters who will be knowledgeable enough and with enough backbone NOT to succumb to pressure tactics and maneuvering, but it won't be the majority.

The REST of the assembly (RP delegates included) will "toe the line" as all good sheeple do. For MOST, things will simply happen so fast and under such "guidance" that it will be over before they know what happened. (It is amazingly easy to manipulate groups of people and make anyone "opposing" the manipulation look like a "problem" and get the group to turn against them. I have watched it happen so many times it isn't funny. Go to the convention... you'll see it happen in action, and without realizing it you will almost certainly become a "willing" participant who ends up rubber-stamping the consensus "establishment" candidate along with everyone else. Only after it is all over, and too late to change, will you say... "wait a minute, what just happened?" )

It's called "diaprax". The

It's called "diaprax". The way to fight it is to be informed, to know what's going on, and to stand up for truth. Go read about it.