Deleted from Wikipedia--G. Edward Griffin
Submitted by xxx-by_request2 on Sat, 02/23/2008 - 09:05
Hi, all! G. Edward Griffin, scholar and writer on critical topics such as the Federal Reserve, gold, the Constitution, the UN, etc., has been deleted from Wikipedia! Why? Because he writes about the Federal Reserve? Why? Because he has doubts about the government's official version of the events of September 11? Why? Because he believes in American sovereignty and gold and liberty and the Constitution?
This is mindblowing to me! Does anybody know any way to contact Wikipedia and ask what prompted them to remove this man??? Google him and he's all over the web, but Wikipedia removes him from their "encyclopedia"?
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He has also
Commented here on the DP before.
"Obamney care," Nuff said.
Undeleted
This is the link to the Wikipedia entry:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G._Edward_Griffin
Complete
Unadulterated BULLSHIT
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Here is the link. Just
Here is the link. Just re-add the information and/or page.
http://72.14.205.104/search?q=cache:hqTsGNuzak8J:en.wikipedi...
Disgusted and shocked
I felt really compelled to comment on this forum as well. I was introduced to G. Edward Griffin when I went to the Artivist Film Festival in Los Angeles where they were screening Zeitgeist. Griffin was a speaker there (he was influential to the film). As soon as I came home I went to his website and now I receive his weekly newsletter. If it weren't for his newsletter where he links to an abundance of true news stories, I wouldn't know about a lot going on because those stories are kept hidden from the public. Then I found out about his deletion from Wikipedia and I immediately went there and tried to comment on his behalf. I spent over an hour looking through the BS that people are saying. I cannot believe people are quibbling over whether he is notable enough to be on wikipedia, saying things like there aren't enough reliable third party sources and he is a conspiracy theorist. I feel so shocked that there is even a debate about this! Typing his name into google elicits 315,000 results! His books sell on Amazon! You can find scores of interviews with him from other independent sources! He's won awards, he's started foundations, he's made movies! How is this not enough to be considered prominent enough to be on wikipedia. I mean wikipedia is hardly "scholarly." They have a wikipedia on anything you could imagine. I wrote a long comment and posted it in the debate. No one even commented on what I said, where I listed plenty of things he is notable for - instead people kept repeating "no third party sources." I feel like I'm going crazy. This is truly censorship. I posted my comment and the next morning they had decided to delete it. I really wish there was something else we could do. I realize we could say the hell with wikipedia, but it really is the principal, it's what this means for the internet and silencing voices that speak the truth. Here is a link to that debate if anyone wants to see it. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Deletion_review#G._Ed...
click on SHOW on the right hand side to see the comments
I'm disturbed and angry
Do you have a link to his web site?
The one you mention in your post?
These things happen all the time
These things happen all the time, and then they tell me I am out of my mind for believing in conspiracies.
Wikpedia has never been a
Wikpedia has never been a respected source of information. Screw them we own the internet, sounds like a perfect opportunity for a internet savvy freedom fighter to create a website that fills the vacuum
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They're trying
to get rid of Per Bylund, too.
Seems like a concerted, ongoing effort to marginalize ideas that are critical of the status quo, especially where market anarchist ideas can be found. Wikipedia's rules were bad from the start. How can new ideas get a foothold in a time when 'official' mythology is pushed as fact? There is a bias against non-mainstream ideas built into Wikipedia.
Remember there is only bad information, there's no such thing as a bad source.
I had read one of his books on the UN in the past.
I had read one of his books on the UN in the past. He seems to be an excellent researcher. I believe he was involved with the John Birch Society.
I feel perhaps that the John Birch Society has been infiltrated to a certain degree for a long time, but they have some good information.
Wiki is CIA / NSA
use this tol to see WHO edits stuf, you may be suprised...or not ;-)
http://wikiscanner.virgil.gr/
"Great men do not seek power, they have great power thrust upon them" - Klingon proverb
www.myspace.com/chapel_of_chaos
www.ronpaul2008.com
"Truth is Treason in an Empire of Lies"
www.campaignforliberty.com
www.downsizedc.org
www.antiwar.com
More like
More like "Wikooglepedia"...
The CIA/NSA Wikooglepedia.
wikipedia dot org/w/index.php?title=
Talk:September_11%2C_2001
_attacks&diff=prev&oldid=193530474
If that doesn't get you there, try following along with changes made in the history's of talk pages. "The worm is turning."
Glad to see there is still
Glad to see there is still tons of information on the net about Griffin... not that I ever used Wiki as my bible for information on ANYTHING to begin with.
*** to ZekeD ***
You stated that Henry Paulson was incorrectly reported as dead by Wikipedia on January 2008... he is dead! He was shot dead 'in the course of duty' given that he had continually committed gross treason in time of war and had repeatedly been warned of the consequences if he did not cease and desist.
Here is a great read for you and everyone else... showing that Paulson is one of 127 people on a hit list... others on the list (and I pray it happens) are Cheney and Bush Jr, Bush Sr, Dr Ben Bernanke, Chairman of the Federal Reserve Board, and Michael Chertoff, Secretary of Homeland Security.
http://www.worldreports.org/news/109_henry_paulson_has_died_...
that is troll material do you actually believe all that s**t?
"It does not take a majority to prevail ... but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brushfires of freedom in the minds of men." - Samuel Adams
"The use of 'Conspiracy Theorist' or 'Truther' as a derogatory -- as an epithet almost -- is something the propagandists have perfected over the decades, and it's a useful tool for eliminating articulate dissent."
Who's "hit list" is it? And, who is going to carry out
these assassinations?? Who shot Henry Paulson dead, and when? I think it is dangerous to spread/post such flammatory rhetoric and disinformation.
Got me too
But absolutely NO EXCUSE for deleting Ed! (who is an amazing guy!)
I got deleted about 2yrs ago from wiki. Many, many people did everything they could to get me back on but to no avail.
It stemmed from my embarrassing Tim (the Shill) Russert on an interview I did with him on my Radio show DEADLINE LIVE in 2006.
The excuse was? The person who put me up on wiki added that I was a syndicated radio host. This is true as I am on satellite and on several AM & FM radio stations. I am syndicated on the Genesis Communications Network and neither of us list our affiliates as we don't want them hassled by the Haters. But just because we don't list them doesn't mean that they don't exist. This is easily verified.
But somebody protested saying that I was only an internet host ( because I also am aired on several internet sites) So that was it. Banned for life! and no recourse.
I hope that Ed will be reinstated but it seems once your banned, your gone and thats it.
Someone needs to start a major competitor to WIKI and put them out of business. AKA help the free market to work against wiki by giving people a better and more HONEST option.
Excellent program
Jack,
I have never spoken with you, but I listen to your program from time to time on short-wave. You do an excellent job exposing the NWO, thanks brother! I really think your show is interesting. Stay in the fight, and may God Bless you.
DISGUSTING Wikipedia Behaviour REVEALED !!
I've just spent an hour reviewing the (voluminous) deletion history (link below) of G. Edward Griffin's Wikipedia entry.
Six (6) different editors entered a "Delete"...ON THE SAME DAY !
These were not ordinary persons - 2 of them are Administrators, and 4 others are either admittedly trying to become admins, or else have achieved a higher 'Editor' status, with extra powers.
One of them performed 4,000 edits in the past 12 days - that person must spend every waking hour on Wiki !!
It is truly amazing the extent that certain specially self-anointed busybodies on that site go to, to extinguish 'unsavory' items, particularly since the very same people not only allow, but personally espouse unsupported &/or radical ideas themselves on their own pages.
The major repeated claim against against Griffins' continued entry on Wikipedia is :
-that he is "not notable FOR ANYTHING",
-that there is no 3rd party verification source.
-that he is a conspiracy theorist.
Griffin is someone who has several books on Amazon,
has an IMDB listing, produced numerous films dating back to the '60s,
& a comprehensive website with copious amounts of well-edited & researched data.
His videos/audios (on the topic of the Federal Reserve & banking) have superb narrative & are very clearly & thoroughly laid out -
At once easy to absorb for those new to the topic, and yet still incisive & comprehensive enough for those well-versed in the subject.
I have ZERO Idea how to 'work' Wikipedia, but surely some on this forum do - if you haven't yet, please spend several minutes watching just one of his youtube videos - and if you agree, please make an effort to restore his Wiki entry.
If it is not already clear, he is a supporter of Dr. Paul, and his analyses provided in his videos are a great entry point for those who are seeking to learn more details about the financial subjects Dr. Paul often references.
This is really, truly, an outrage.....
Link to private Wiki 'editor' page (where 2 editors smugly agree to themselves to KILL any possible re-creation of this page, and glad that they wont have to deal with that page ever again!) : (it is at bottom)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Excirial
Final Deletion page Link (with extensive comments):
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion...
Similarity?
What's the difference between Wiki behavior and the flagging behavior on this site?
None.
Self made censors are everywhere. It's the battle for dominion on information and "truth."
I prefer open discussion where ANYTHING can be discussed. I am in the minority. Sad.
Difference
The difference is that Wiki has a self-styled code of ethics which they are in the process of violating. For a Ron Paul supporter, I don't agree with quite a bit of what G. E. G. says, but that doesn't make it right to be a hypocrite.
There is a STRONG difference....
Actually, there IS a significant difference :
Anyone can re-post here either - either under a different name (if they only want attention), or else (the best solution) :
express themselves articulately in a different manner & try to be as objective as possible.
That CANNOT be done on Wikipedia, in this case.
You have self-important, multi-degreed, self-appointed editors, who are Obsessive-Compulsively 'rigorous' about their own special form of truth, i.e. 'consensus truth', and have created a "special" block/kill on any more submissions on this topic.
The topic is now off-limits, period.
That is simply heinous. Even if I vehemently disagree, I would not want that.
You nailed it right on the
You nailed it right on the head!!
get everybody
to re-post it...The accumulation of all powers, legislative, executive, and judiciary, in the same hands, whether of one, a few, or many, and whether hereditary, self-appointed, or elective, may justly be pronounced the very definition of tyranny. James Madison
The accumulation of all powers, legislative, executive, and judiciary, in the same hands, whether of one, a few, or many, and whether hereditary, self-appointed, or elective, may justly be pronounced the very definition of tyranny. James Madison
Wikipedia has BANNED IT ! - cannot be re-posted
You cannot re-post it. It has been specially blocked.
Please read my post, and click on the link. Special Admin editors have not only killed it, but have an AUTO-KILL for any attempt to re-create it.
From google cache
G. Edward Griffin (born 7 November 1931) is an American political commentator, writer and documentary filmmaker. He has been involved as a founder and leader of a number of organizations in health, media, and politics of which the most prominent is American Media and Freedom Force International.
Contents [hide]
1 Biography
2 Author and film producer
3 Social activism
3.1 The Coalition for Visible Ballots
3.2 Freedom Force International
4 Works
4.1 Films and video
4.2 Books
4.3 Periodicals
4.4 Archival material
5 References
6 External links
[edit] Biography
Griffin graduated from the University of Michigan with a major in speech and communications, and also attended the College for Financial Planning in Denver, Colorado where he obtained a Certified Financial Planner designation in 1989.
[edit] Author and film producer
As the President of American Media, a publishing and video production company in southern California, and as the founder and creator of the website Reality Zone, Griffin has published several books including The Creature from Jekyll Island and A World Without Cancer: The Story of Vitamin B17 as well as the video Capitalist Conspiracy.
[edit] Social activism
Griffin has served on the board of directors of the National Health Federation and the International Association of Cancer Victors and Friends. [1]. In December 1976 he founded the Cancer Cure Foundation.[2] a non-profit organization dedicated to research and education in alternative cancer therapies of which he is currently president [3].
Griffin received the Telly Award for excellence in television production.[4]
Griffin was socially significant for being one of the first public and media proponents of the now controversial natural alternative cancer therapy based on laetrile or Amygdalin, which is the subject of his book A World Without Cancer and the documentary of the same name.
[edit] The Coalition for Visible Ballots
Griffin is one of the founding coalition members of the The Coalition for Visible Ballots, a single issue group with the long-term goal to eliminate invisible ballots.
“ We at the Coalition for Visible Ballots believe that the only way to restore fair and honest elections to our country is to set aside ALL machines, including electronic of any type, touch screen, optical scan counters--and use PAPER BALLOTS, HAND-COUNTED IN PUBLIC VIEW.[5] ”
To this end he co-produced the film Invisible Ballots: A Temptation for Electronic Vote Fraud.
[edit] Freedom Force International
In 2002, Griffin founded Freedom Force International, an organization with members in countries across the world. Freedom Force International has an unusual membership fee structure: there are dues-paying members and non-dues-paying members. Mr. Griffin believes that such an organization should not require members to pay dues. In order to fund operations, however, certain bonuses are awarded to members who elect to pay dues. Until recently, the minimum monthly membership due was based on one ounce of silver.
[edit] Works
[edit] Films and video
World without Cancer (a video adaptation of the book of the same title.) World without Cancer at Google Video OCLC 5604983
Capitalist Conspiracy (An Inside View of International Banking) documentary film.OCLC 5558340
Invisible Ballots: A Temptation for Electronic Vote Fraud (DVD, executive producer), by David Dill; William Gazecki; G Edward Griffin; Bev Harris; Rebecca Mercuri; Aviel D. Rubin. Published by American Media (Westlake Village, California) and Reality Zone, 2004. ISBN 0-912986-42-5 OCLC 56844390
The Red Reality in Central America with Willy Solis. American Media, VHS tape, 1985. OCLC 37023488
[[The Discovery of Noah s Ark]], American Media (Firm), VHS tape, Publisher: Westlake Village, Calif. : American Media, 1993. OCLC 29511807
The discovery of Noah's ark the whole story.; Knowledge 2020 (Firm); UFO-TV (Firm). DVD video. Publisher: Venice, CA : Knowledge 20/20 : Distributed by UFO TV, 2004. OCLC 59007573
Hidden agenda real conspiracies that affect our lives today., VHS tape, Publisher: Venice, CA : Knowledge 2020, 2001. OCLC 49289908
Soviet subversion of the free press a conversation with Yuri Bezmenov, with Yuri Bezmenov; VHS tape, Publisher: Westlake Village, Calif. : American Media, 1984. OCLC 45810551
No place to hide The strategy and tactics of terrorism, with Dick Quincer; Western Goals (Organization), VHS tape. Publisher: Alexander, Va : Western Goals Foundation [production Co.], Westlake Village, Ca : American Media [distributor], 1982 ; 1983. OCLC 19993388
No place to hide the strategy & tactics of terrorism, with WBTV (Television station : Charlotte, N.C.); Western Goals (Organization). Videocassette. Publisher: Alexandria, VA. : Western Goals Foundation, 1982. OCLC 10744020
The creature from Jekyll Island a second look at the Federal Reserve' with Harold Shurtleff; John Birch Society. VHS tape. Publisher: [United States] : John Birch Society, 1994. OCLC 36245861
More deadly than war—the Communist revolution in America. American Media (Firm). Film OCLC 5549058
The Subversion Factor: A History of Treason in Modern America. Westlake Village, Calif. : American Media, c1988. Videocassette (120 min.) : Contents: Moles in high places -- Open gates of Troy OCLC 36968013
[edit] Books
The Fearful Master: A Second Look at the United Nations. Published in 1964 by Western Islands Publishers (Boston). ISBN 0882791028 OCLC 414277 [6]
The Grand Design: A Lecture on U.S. Foreign Policy. Published in 1968 by Grand Design (Thousand Oaks, California) OCLC 6207421
The Great Prison Break: The Supreme Court Leads the Way. Published in 1968 by Western Islands (Boston) OCLC 220369
A Memorandum on Supreme Court Decisions. Published in 1968 in Belmont, Massachusetts with the caption title: "Summaries of key decisions of the United States Supreme Court as related to the impeachment of the Chief Justice." [1] OCLC 432181
More Deadly than War The Communist Revolution in America. Transcript of a lecture recorded on April 3, 1969. Published in 1969 by American Media. Translated into Dutch and published as Nog erger dan oorlog by Stichting Voorlichting Buitenland (The Hague) in 1970. OCLC 63810377
This is the John Birch Society: An Invitation to Membership. Transcript of a lecture delivered by the author on December 17, 1969. Published in 1970 by American Media OCLC 83825. Republished in 1972 by American Media. ISBN 0912986042
The Capitalist Conspiracy. A transcript of the soundtrack of the documentary film of the same title. Published in 1971 by American Media. OCLC 3263688
World Without Cancer: The Story of Vitamin B17. Published in 1974 by American Media. ISBN 0912986093. New, revised and updated edition published in 1997 by American Media. ISBN 0-912986-19-0 [2] OCLC 36480638
The Life and Words of Robert Welch, Founder of the John Birch Society. Introduction by E. Merrill Root. Published in 1975 by American Media. ISBN 0-912986-07-7 OCLC 1530499
The Creature from Jekyll Island: A Second Look at the Federal Reserve. First published in 1994 by American Media. ISBN 0912986158. Second edition published in 1995 by American Opinion Publishing (Appleton, Wisconson). ISBN 0912986182. Third edition published in 1998 by American Media. ISBN 0-912986-32-8 (hardcover), ISBN 0-912986-21-2 (paperback). Fourth edition published in 2002 by American Media. ISBN 0912986395 (paperback), ISBN 0912986409 (hardcover).
Private Papers Pertaining to Laetrile. Published in 1997 by American Media. ISBN 0-912986-20-4 OCLC 61633861
The Future is Calling. Online text analysing the War on Terrorism. A revised version of The Grand Deception. [3]
[edit] Periodicals
Voice of Medical Freedom. Monthly periodical (February 1981-?) published by Griffin (Westlake Village, California) and distributed by Americans for Medical Freedom OCLC 15749357
[edit] Archival material
Ephemeral Materials, 1976-1986. Archival material published by Americans for Medical Freedom (Westlake Village, California OCLC 18761098
[edit] References
^ Freedom Force International - Welcome
^ The Cancer Cure Foundation
^ About Us
^ http://www.freedomforceinternational.org/freedom.cfm?fuseact..., Telly Awards
^ coalition4visibleballots
^ The Founder. Freedom Force International. Retrieved on 2006-04-30.
[edit] External links
G. Edward Griffin at the Internet Movie Database
Editorial Opinions of G. Edward Griffin
A Talk by Edward Griffin
Retrieved from "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G._Edward_Griffin"
Categories: 1931 births | American political writers | American anti-communists | John Birch Society | People from California | Conspiracy theorists | University of Michigan alumni | American documentary filmmakers
G. Edward Griffin....no Slouch!
Thanks for posting all this info....
I have been aware of Mr. Griffin ever since discovering his book "World Without Cancer" in a health food store back in 1976.
This man is intelligent, lucid and very well aware of what goes on out there and his very informative writings reflect that.
"Bad men cannot make good citizens. It is when a people forget God that tyrants forge their chains. A vitiated state of morals, a corrupted public conscience, is incompatible with freedom." Patrick Henry
THank you for posting the
THank you for posting the cached bio/data on Griffin - at least it can be googled (hopefully) & a link provided for your post.
Please don't take offense, but i'm going to re-post my response so it shows above yours - It's essentially an appeal to those on this forum who know how to 'work' Wikipedia, to attempt to get around the block they've established.
I think it's important that this at least be attempted - and also that ppl know how opposed Wikipedia is to people espousing views that are "anti-consensus truth" - and their own written disgust about those who are anti-consensus.
DISGUSTING WIKIPEDIA behaviour revealed !
I've just spent an hour reviewing the (voluminous) deletion history (link below) of G. Edward Griffin's Wikipedia entry.
Six (6) different persons entered a "Delete"...ON THE SAME DAY !
These were not ordinary people - 2 of them are Administrators, and 4 others are either admittedly trying to become admins, or else have achieved a special 'Editor' status, with extra powers.
One of them performed 4,000 edits in the past 12 days - that person must spend every waking hour on Wiki !!
It is truly amazing the extent that certain specially self-anointed busybodies on that site go to, to extinguish 'unsavory' items, particularly since the very same people not only allow, but personally espouse unsupported &/or radical ideas themselves on their own pages.
The major repeated claim against against Griffins' continued entry on Wikipedia is :
-that he is "not notable FOR ANYTHING",
-that there is no 3rd party verification source.
-that he is a conspiracy theorist.
Griffin is someone who has several books on Amazon,
has an IMDB listing, produced numerous films dating back to the '60s,
& a comprehensive website with copious amounts of well-edited & researched data.
His videos/audios (on the topic of the Federal Reserve & banking) have superb narrative & are very clearly & thoroughly laid out -
At once easy to absorb for those new to the topic, and yet still incisive & comprehensive enough for those well-versed in the subject.
I have ZERO Idea how to 'work' Wikipedia, but surely some on this forum do - if you haven't yet, please spend several minutes watching just one of his youtube videos - and if you agree, please make an effort to restore his Wiki entry.
If it is not already clear, he is a supporter of Dr. Paul, and his analyses provided in his videos are a great entry point for those who are seeking to learn more details about the financial subjects Dr. Paul often references.
This is really, truly, an outrage.....
Link to private Wiki 'editor' page (where 2 editors smugly agree to themselves to KILL any possible re-creation of this page, and glad that they wont have to deal with that page ever again!) : (it is at bottom)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Excirial
Final Deletion page Link (with extensive comments):
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion...
I wonder if
his speaking commitments at the Truth Tour Now, in March in Sydney Australia has something to do with it.
http://www.911oz.com/ scroll down, it is the last event on that page
mmm..makes one wonder http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion...
Griffin and "The Creature" were mentioned on Dennis Miller
I happened to catch the closing moments of Dennis Millers' radio show on 2/22, when a caller, recommending The Creature from J. Is. by name, gave it a clear and concise intro to G. Edward Griffins' masterpiece. Miller agreed with the caller, that it sounded worth looking into it.
Earlier there had been some discussion of the Fed, but I missed that part. Perhaps it's only coincidence that his Wiki entry went away, but I wouldn't want to be accused of starting a coincidence theory.
For my part, whatever anguish of spirit it may cost, I am willing to know the whole truth; to know the worst and provide for it. - Patrick Henry