Have any of you lost friends over all this?
I have. My friends are all baby boomer democrats who are blissfully naive and think the UN is just fine.
Ever since I have been on the daily paul I have been sending them links to some of these things: economic collapse, concentration camps,
vote fraud, etc. They just think I am "way out there" and obsessed and overly paranoid. No one ever suggests a visit, a walk on the beach, etc. any more.
I feel sad. I end up spending hours reading you guys' posts and then I get more engrossed in all this. I would hang out with the RP meetup friends but they are nearly all young men, young enough to be my children, and besides our state already voted so those meetups are now over. So my only real deep friendship right now (aside from my husband) is with my computer!
no
have only made friends.
yeah, lost some friends
but got some new, better ones.
Perceptions are important
"I have been sending them links to some of these things: economic collapse, concentration camps,
vote fraud, etc. They just think I am "way out there" and obsessed and overly paranoid."
There are many subjects you could send them links on, foreign policy, the Iraq war, the growth of entitlements, social security, the declining dollar, the hypocrisy of the GOP, the voting record of Ron Paul, income transfers, and the constitution. Those are subjects in which RP is a true winner, and arguments you will win. The subjects showed as examples by you are not cut and dry and could be put under the category "conspiracy theories." Perceptions are important and many potential RP supporters are turned off by a conspiracy under every rock. The links you mentioned would never turn me on to RP, but his voting record and positions would. Empahsize on RP and his positions.
see thread posted yesterday
I am a hypnotist, and we are fighting masterfully executed mass hypnosis. I think the thread title is "Do you wonder why they won't listen?"
While I am generally a cynical, sarcastic person, this is a genuine attempt to help people understand, and overcome, the effects of hypnosis.
Truth exists, and it deserves to be cherished.
no... havn't lost any
no... havn't lost any friends but just frustrated that they cannot see the forest for the trees...
“A prudent man foreseeth the evil, and hideth himself: but the simple pass on, and are punished.” (Prov. 22:3; 27:12 KJV)
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When I see social climbers and smug people
When I see social climbers and smug people who like to make fun of others, it reminds me of this funny song parody I have heard in the past on the radio. I don’t know who sung it but parts of the lyrics go something like:
Did you see me in that movie with the stars?
And did you see me hit that baseball up to Mars?
And I think you didn’t know it
But I bet you wouldn’t guess
That I designed the super jet
We really haven't lost any friends
But my family, (except my brother, who will vote 3rd Party before voting McCain) thinks we have gone off the deep end, especially when I said "I'm so tired of feeling like I've voted for the lesser of two evils, I will vote third party before voting for McCain".'
Libera me, let the truth break, what my fears make--Leslie Phillips
But that man should play the tyrant over God, and find Him a better man than himself, is astonishing drama indeed!~~D. Sayers
There is no difference between an authoritarian government from the right or the left...F. A.Schaeffer
My idea is to...
apologize for straying from the 'acceptable' mindset, then tell them that you wanted to clean off the scum of playing with the Reprobate party, so you watched a great, but older ('87), Bill Moyers/pbs piece to do it with. Maybe then say how it all came back after watching that piece, and you would love to discuss what it was about with them.
If they can't bear to discuss the truth of our ongoing Constitutional Crisis, even though presented from an obviously leftist view complete with a Senator John Kerry appearance, you'll know they are automatons hopelessly enslaved by pop culture. If they do talk with you about it, there may be hope!
Personally, I moved to Wyoming ('05) in pursuit of greater freedoms of property, both land and posessions, like say, guns, for instance. It was hard to leave my roots behind, but only at first. I really wish I would have done this earlier.
I truly believe I would have taken a larger percentage of RP delegates to our (second smallest in WYO) county convention back in early January. The 24% we did have far exceeded any other candidates total, and only Mcain and Thompson had anybody stand for them! But, the system worked just as it was designed to do, and our county chair became the national delegate. I'm LOL because her pick dropped out. So, blah, blah, blah----I just wish you the best while you re-gain your bearings...I think it happens to all those who seek the truth.
here is the link
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3505348655137118430&...
THE MORE I LEARN ABOUT GOVERNMENT
THE MORE I LOVE MY GUNS
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THE MORE I LEARN ABOUT GOVERNMENT
THE MORE I LOVE MY GUNS
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sorry...
double-post
THE MORE I LEARN ABOUT GOVERNMENT
THE MORE I LOVE MY GUNS
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FREEDOM TO FASCISM:Since you seem to have a lot of free time now
:) Could you consider this?
http://www.dailypaul.com/node/36279
Thank you so much!
government of the people, by the people, for the people
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I gave away many copies of FFto F
and to my dismay, only one or two of them watched it!! So I am going to take another different strategy. I am going to see if I can show the film at my local library. Then people who are interested can come and watch. Then I can give each person a take-home copy. A friend of mine said someone in his community did that and that is how he saw the movie.
Sounds Good!
That's a great idea!
I think we should educate as many people as we can, but another thing is "we need to find those other individuals who share those views" as Dr. Paul recently said. So, I think your idea is great! Once you identify those individuals who are interested, bring them here. It is very important to organize this movement. It doesn't do any good unless we join together, so we need to find those individuals who share similar views.
By the way, interesting enough, those who have been resenting me started to come around when I showed a print out of a Daily Paul discussion with lots of comments. It wasn't the logic or the topic of the discussion. It was the number of people who were participating in the discussion that opened their eyes. Ok, I have a problem with that, but many people make decisions based on what other people are doing. So, I'm very confident that this movement will grow exponentially.
Anyway, a different subject. I'd think you have watched this also, but if you haven't, this is also a good film. Overview of America. It's only 29min. You can watch it online or you can buy DVD's for only about 70cents if you buy many.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6732659166933078950
Thank you!
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"Those of us who know what’s going on and we know the truth, we all have a responsibility to speak out and we need to find those other individuals who share those views. Not so much that we know immediately we can turn this around in a week or two or a year or two, but if conditions deteriorate as I suspect, we have to have a hardcore people who understand these issues who are able to rebuild the society." RON PAUL
government of the people, by the people, for the people
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What was the post
that you showed your friends? Just curious...it may have also been some of the intelligent comments...thanks for the movie link. Lots of DPers have been mentioning that movie lately! So I am curious. Will watch it tonight while I jump on my trampoline...
We have choices!!!
I have gained a lot of new friends because of this revolution and have become closer to some of my old friends because of my passion for this revolution. I was a newly wed on 7/7/7 and three weeks ago I left him and will be filing for an annulment, because of my passion for ethics, morals and the truth none of which he possessed. I thank God for showing me the way and leading me to our revolution. As for the people I have known and new people I meet that do not feel the way I do, I do not force the issues I feel sorry for them and hope that one day they will wake up. I have learned your life is what you make it. Be Happy!
The great tragedy of Science - the slaying of a beautiful hypothesis by an ugly fact.
- Thomas H. Huxley
Did you leave your husband because of the revolutionary ideas?
That is kinda what you hint at....you left him for Ron Paul?
In my search for truth in all things.
Including my faux marriage, I left my husband for my saniity and our revolution. Not for Dr. Paul
The great tragedy of Science - the slaying of a beautiful hypothesis by an ugly fact.
- Thomas H. Huxley
Yes
I have lost some acquaintances and my friends (co-workers) think that I have gone off the deep end and am obsessed as well. And they are right...I am obsessed with Ron Paul and the R3volution....I am passionate about it....it is something that I believe in so very strongly....If the people in my life can't understand that and want to part ways....then I wish them all well. They don't have to agree with me, but if they are truely my friends then they will agree to disagree....
I know what you mean about sitting at the computer all the time...I do the same thing...my booty hurts from sitting on it so much....I get so caught up in the R3volution.....But it's worth every minute. We Must Fight for what We Believe in. I completely believe in Ron Paul and the R3volution....
Go Ron Go!
We CAN win
Don't you think it's funny
that the RP people are the only ones TRULY fighting for what the others take forgranted?? They really have no clue how many rights they've lost, and how many more are going down the tubes...
YOU are the nut, because you've READ the legislation. YOU are a kook, because you have taken the time to seek the truth...
GunTrapTanDaddy posted that his friend referred to the Constitution as "this garbage".....GARBAGE????? Does that guy realize that all too soon, his right to say such filth will be but a memory??
It's enough to make you cry.....
Thanks Steph...
the positive is that I live in Oregon, and our primary is not until May 20th. I have signed up to be a PCP-another word for delegate in Oregon. It is a long way until November, and a lot can happen between now and then. It ain't over until it's over. Delegates are the answer. Drudge was reporting yesterday that McInsane had won the nomination. I was perplexed. He has not won the nomination, nor is he going to.
They're all saying that
it's in the script! :D Just like the NYT "expose"...a ploy to garner support from the "conservatives" who hate the NYT more than they love their country or freedom... Limbaugh out there railing against the "liberal media bias" when he himself has been railing against McCain is just too much to swallow...
Where do I begin????
As a life long R-23 years now, I am appauled by the Republican party. I used to listen to Hannity, Rush, Laura Ingrahm, and Lars Larson on almost a daily basis. After their assault on the good Dr., I refuse to watch or listen to any of them. I get all of my news from the internet. I've emailed the RNC and GOP of both the Oregon and national parties explaining that if we don't rally behind Dr. Paul, the GOP and RNC are dead. Of course, I get no response. A third party run is unacceptable.
We need to take back the R party now, and I am doing all that I can to do so. If I didn't have skeletons in my closet, I would run for office myself. With my wife's permission, of course.
Liberty and Freedom are for Grown-up
individuals who are RWA (ready, willing and able) to be responsible for themselves and family.
"Friends" who do not respect another's decision to be grown-up are not friends like real grown-ups are..
Go Ron Paul a real grown-up who knows what needs to be done unlike the the rest of the kids in the pack.
Yes, the best man at my wedding....
is owned by the NEA, and the CEA. He is a high school principal in Southern California. When I first emailed him some Ron Paul stuff, he said "I like that guy." Next thing I know, he is saying what a racist Ron Paul is, and that O'Bama is basicly the second coming. I sent him some YouTube videos-including the Freedom to fascism, and others. He sent me the pro-O'Bama stuff, and I basicly told him that I would take capitalism over socialism and communism any day. He responded by saying that I was the one that sent him "this garbage,"-regarding the constitution, etc, but he did wish me well. I have known this guy since I was 10 years old, but am ready to write him off as a friend. I love the guy like a brother, but it wouldn't bother me if I never speak to him again. I firmly believe that "liberalism is a mental disorder."
I know how you feel.. I have
I know how you feel.. I have a friend I have known since 2nd grade.. we have played sports etc. together since then and are best of friends...he is a conservative Christian thinker but is so discusted with politics he would not even look at Ron Paul.. told me he didn't have time to watch the videos etc. and please stop sending them to him.. I wrote back one last time and told him.. Chris, you have 2 young healthy sons.. this election is not about us its about them and what they will have when they are our age.. he kinda changed his tune a little but still apathetic.. I have concluded that basically about this time next year if Ron Paul is not elected that this country will not be the same as the last 230 years.. we will be in a depression/collapse and all I can do now is prepare so my family can hopefully get threw it.. I hope the rest of you are preparing too!
“A prudent man foreseeth the evil, and hideth himself: but the simple pass on, and are punished.” (Prov. 22:3; 27:12 KJV)
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YIKES!!!
"this garbage"???
Exactly....
It made me want to cry, and still makes me want to cry.
Yes
I have alienated some of my friends/acquaintances (for now) but have gained many more, both electronically and in-person since this has all begun. I would just keep your eyes peeled for others like us, to build those relationships with like-minded people.
But like another person said, feel the people you know for where they are at and talk to them at that level. Only bring them further a little at a time if they are ready. Truth is important, but some are not ready yet.
A lot of stuff on here is way out there
If you talk to your friends about things, talk to them from where they are at, not where you want them to be. Discuss the budget deficits, the unfunded future commitments, the Iraq war, the domestic spying, there are plenty of things to talk about that they will share an interest/belief system with you.
I did get mad at my sister, after talking to her for two days about RP she agreed with everything he was saying, and then she voted for Mitt Romney because she is a Mormon.
Free and Brave
or Cradle to Grave
You can't have both
Free and Brave
or Cradle to Grave
You can't have both
I am sorry if I have criticized anyone
I feel, as a Christian, that Jesus Christ will be ruling the Earth soon. Every single prophecy about the Day of the Lord seems to be coming true now. That is why I don’t like it when people are unaware of one-world government conspiracies and such. Not to brag, I am a sinner and I am no better than anyone else. I guess I have just known about these things for 20 or 30 years now. Then you see all of these prophecies come to pass and people still don’t believe in what is happening.
So anyway, I understand that not all of you are Christian, and this is not really a religious website, but I have to view world events through a Christian perspective myself, especially with all the events happening at the present time. I am sorry if I have criticized anyone or judged people harshly on here since I am most likely no better than them.
OMG...
your meetup should be planning the next steps!! DELEGATES DELEGATES DELEGATES... :D
I'm in an odd position, a woman without a state, so to speak. I'm a CO resident living in NC until May, so I've been forced to put my mother and sister to work for me there in CO. (tee hee) They went out on a sign wave today and got a good turnout--30-40 people or so, and a lot more honks than middle fingers. CO had their caucus on Super Tuesday, but even so, that meetup is training delegates and helping out the NM meetups by making calls. There's tons more work to be done! :D
But I know what you mean....it's hard being looked at like a freak when you try to tell the "unbelievers" the truth... but you are doing what is right--someday, they'll appreciate that.
In the meantime, you get to hang out with US!!! :D