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UN Warns of Food Rationing? ALREADY??
Submitted by MississippiGRITS on Mon, 02/25/2008 - 13:48
http://digg.com/world_news/Middle_Class_May_Be_Subject_To_Fo... I know it is a prisonplanet article, but there are many good links in the article itself. And I have read all of the links that they reference. If you haven't started stockpiling I suggest that you do so. Fairly quickly wouldn't be a bad idea. » |
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lol
Only the fat will survive!
shortages
there will be food shortages for sure in certain food categories, but no over all world wide total shortage of all foods
Don't worry guys
As long as we have Cosco, we'll be fine.
I remember talking to some people from Earth First!
They said they wanted to get rid of the cows because their methane (farts) were causing global warming. Get rid of sheep because they would poop in the pasture which would flow to the stream, on to the ocean, and kill the fish. But you can't eat the fish because they're protected. No fowl either. And don't grow any fruits, vegetables or grains because this is a "wetlands", "buffer zone", "conservation easement", "wildlife habitat", "sanctuary", "open space", etc. And no water either because it's for the fish.
In light of the above-said restrictions I asked them "Where will you get your food?" They looked at me like I was nuts and said "The grocery store".
No, I am not joking; and neither were they.
more information here...........
LONG READ- MANY LINKS
"Experimental Weather Modification Coming To Your Neighborhood Soon"
Prepare for more water shortages, floods, droughts, and a sharp decline in food supplies in the US when Senate Bill 1807 and US House Bill 3445, that were introduced on July 17, 2007 are voted into law.
http://newswithviews.com/Peterson/rosalind8.htm
There have been food shortages especially feed grains for someti
Wheat was over $10 a bushel today. With the falling dollar and unrestricted buying of our feed griains. Food prices in America will continue to skyrocket.
You may want to consider buying and storing grains in vaccumn packed containers.
Doomsday Seed Vault in the Arctic
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=7529
http://edition.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/europe/02/25/norway.seeds/...
Cycles in commodity prices have always been here
Swings in commodity prices are common. Weather, crop diseases, pest problems, and other natural processes all affect food prices, plus the population just keeps on going up, doubling about every 40 years.
Also, this foolish attempt by our government to dictate ethanol as a substitute for gasoline has directly caused corn prices, and indirectly other grain prices to increase in price. Ethanol probably uses more energy to make than it yields, but it does take corn out of the food supply. This is just an example of the wisdom of Ron Paul who says government does not know how to manage the energy business and should not mess with the free market.
Also, there is the background problem of the federal reserve printing money out of thin air, thus diminishing the value of the dollar and causing prices to increase, a problem also addressed only by Ron Paul.
I do think that eventually (within two decades) starvation will be a major problem in the US, related to shortages of some of the resource inputs into food like oil and phosphorous, but that is not the primary cause of food shortages today. Too bad we will not have the free market to solve our problems, but instead will have government. Can you say Katrina?
"The deepest sin against the human mind is to believe things without evidence." Thomas H. Huxley
Corn
"Ethanol probably uses more energy to make than it yields, but it does take corn out of the food supply."
Good point. Maybe if we:
1. Deferred subsidies from the oil companies to the alternate energy research, the technologiy could have a chance to catch up. European countries have been on this trip for a while. They learned early that oil dependence wasn't worth dealing with the Middle East. Wind, solar, geothermal are the prevalent methods used...not oil.
2. Actually grew more corn there'd be enough to go around. Seems to me there is a lot of achreage not being used to it's fullest. Farmers are routinely paid NOT to grow crops in a effort to control supply. There once was a time when the US had a surplus of almost every commodity available, and we sold it to the world. Now, the frozen broccoli in my freezer comes from Mexico. And once they take over a huge swatch of land to build the NAFTA Hwy, there will be even less land available to grow the things we need.
Exactly Henry ....What is your ...
background that makes you relevant make such a claim? You are right about the ethanol thing, a crisis ready to happen, but, how do you account for $20.00 per bushel white wheat prices.
You had better pull your head out of your ass and realize how the petro dollar collapse is bringing us all to our knees. Oil, is not going up in price, the dollar is devaluing. The fucking dollar is in a devaluation nightmare. Maybe before you make such a long winded claim, you should do some research. Talk to me!
I am not sure you read my entire post
Right at the beginning, I said that there were many factors like cycles, weather, etc. I mentioned corn taken out of the food chain for ethanol as another factor, as I also referred to the monetary problem as having influenced prices. I would hardly describe myself as having my head up in butt about the current economic condition. As to wheat, I think the drought problems in Australia are a much bigger problem than the devaluation of the dollar; this is a supply problem.
I think you are wrong that oil prices are only going up because the dollar is going down. Oil has been going up in other currencies also. It has been a recent problem that oil has been going up faster in US dollars than other currencies, particularly since 2006. Given that all currencies are devaluing, not just the dollar, you might get a big surprise when some of the other currencies start to devalue faster than the dollar, in this competitive currency devaluation game the various countries are playing. I anticipate that the Japanese yen and the Swiss Franc will gain against the dollar, but the Australian dollar, Canadian dollar, British pound, and South African rand will lose against the dollar. (These are the only currencies I follow.) They should all lose against gold and silver until this time next year.
The dollar issue with commodities other than gold and silver is that up till now the expansion of the money supply has been responsible for part of the bull market. This may soon end as more and more of the money supply increases go into the financial markets via the bond market. It is conceivable that as trade suffers and worldwide unemployment increases that we actually get a 1930's style collapse in soft commodity markets. You can't just extrapolate recent trends and reach valid conclusions; the movement of markets is more complex than that.
Irrespective of the problems in the faulty monetary system we have, the oil problem is the elephant in the room for the next two decades. This can be summed up in two words, Hubbard curve. Simply, all oil wells have production patterns that are best described by a gaussian curve (similar to bell curve). The same can be said for a particular oil field. The same can be said for a country. The same can be said for the world. Another simple fact is that oil must first be discovered before it can be produced. There is a time lag between discoveries and production so if you look at discoveries 40 years ago you know what current production should look like and can predict the date of peak production. Discoveries peaked 40 years ago, so the logical conclusion is that production is about to peak. We know what the world production curve looks like based on experience with individual wells, oil fields, and entire oil producing countries. So we can calculate what future production will be using the estimated peak date of 2010, the Hubbard curve, and to date data on world oil production.
Experience has shown that oil exports decline to near zero sometime between 9 and 15 years after that exporting country reaches peak production. The USA imports 60% of the oil we use, so we are in particular danger after world oil peak production is reached. And there is third factor called Energy Return on Energy Invested which historically has been deteriorating at a rate of 3.5% per year.
So we have world oil production reaching a limit and about to decline, which will seriously affect imports into the US; we have US domestic production in decline since the 1970's; and, we each year use more energy to procure what we do get. If you look at how much oil we in the USA may have to use in 2025, it could be somewhere between 1/4 and 1/3 of what we have to use now. This has already affected the price of oil, and we have not yet conclusively reached peak (we won't know with a few years of hindsight). I don't know if you can judge the ramifications of this end to the oil age for which there is no adequate energy substitute, but I might suggest that undertaker would be a good occupation to consider. I fully expect starvation, civil conflict, energy wars, and a worldwide population reduction to match the substantially reduced economic pie that will result from lack of energy to fuel the industrial age.
"The deepest sin against the human mind is to believe things without evidence." Thomas H. Huxley
Mind what you Think
...ever heard of manifestation? It's when you put so much focus on something, it actually begins to happen. There is a very thin line between spreading consciousness and spreading fear. Take ownership of your words and thoughts, realize that both are powerful. If you believe that the "world is ending" (LOL), manifest your plan for coping and thriving!
With that in mind, anyone who was been staying current with world issues knows that we are skirting the edges of several bubbles, the depletion of world grain reserves being one of them. Just like with the housing, and consumer credit bubbles, the consequences of a downturn or tightening on supply could mean a number of things. The exact outcome is unknowable, and therefore, our response should include a plan that is both flexible and practical.
If you are caught unprepared, you will spend a fair amount of time in a state of panic. You will waste time feeling angry, mislead, disorganized, and victimized. You will want to place blame on our government, big corporations, and probably yourself. Get that out of your system now!
For every negative piece of information you take in, be it a "doomsday" report on the the state of the global economy or an impending food shortage, do something extremely proactive to counter-balance it. Start a Victory Garden, read up on sustainability techniques, make an emergency plan, get in shape (physically, spiritually, and mentally), and/or get out of debt.
Don't allow yourself to be washed over by all of these reports of the End of the World, no matter how plausible or likely they may be. In the end, the only thing that will save you will be your ability to adapt, and that will only be possible if you approach these changes with an open spirit and a settled mind.
What are your selling?
Single cross seeds? So you think the state of the union is great? Fuck you!
And fuck anyone else who would suck up to your post. Fuck you happy..whatthefuck, come to my house.
Here's the article they're quoting
Fortune Favors the Bold
Note they are only talking about developing countries who are on the world food program.
Troubling still, but this doesn't apply to America.
It does mean our food will be getting more expensive.
Fortune Favors the Bold
We just stopped
by the co-op on the way back from getting our son from school. Wheat, which used to be $7.50 for a 50lb bag is now going to be $15.00 when harvested in September. If the same goes for all other food items across the board, buying food may become a very humbling experience.
I did not say that this UN article was going to directly affect us RIGHT NOW. BUT if food prices continue to go up and up and up and the dollar is worth less and less and less...logic would tell us that one of these day very soon, you may go to the grocery and have an "Oh Sh**" moment.
My personal feelings are to buy extra now when you go to the store while things are at about the lowest they are going to be for the next several years...if you believe any analysts that have an opinion that is.
www.urbannaturals.net
Thank you
That's how I took it as well.. just an indicator for later down the road, so something we may want to know now. Not that we're all going to starve to death next week, for pete's sake.
~Live life to its fullest, with an open heart, open arms and most important... an open mind~
May I say something?
Maybe we should all reconsider what's going on.
Maybe some people get ratings by pandering to the audience that scares the easiest. Maybe what you think is real, really isn't. Maybe you're afraid of yourself.
What would happen if everyone went to stockpile food all of a sudden? It would CAUSE a food shortage that would take a very long time replenish. The U.N. article might be trying to create a self-fulfilling prophecy. If you think there's a food shortage, there will be. As it stands right now, there is no food shortage, and there won't be if people don't over react en masse.
What I'm saying is, calm the "f" down.
Yes, it's good to have some food on hand. But relax a little, too, or you'll be the cause.
simple really
buy 4 cans of something instead of 2.. buy an extra loaf of bread and freeze it. buy some powdered milk. you don't have to clear the shelves, just buy a little extra every trip to the store. kind of like not letting your gas tank get lower than half... store some water. even in the event of a storm or power outage it will be nice to have some things on hand. Then you aren't a part of the crowds at the store if and when something happens.
Ever been to a grocery store when
there is a big snow storm coming? There is nothing left on the shelves. The ones who have a store of food aren't to blame for that because they already have food. So, I think you are wrong. Everyone should have food stored up for emergency. The ones who don't will be the ones who are panicking at the grocery stores when and if something happens. The ones who buy food to store aren't the ones who cause food shortages, but when the shortages happen, they are the ones who aren't making it worse, because they aren't grabbing for what is in the stores,etc.
How long are the shelves empty
For a day at most..there is no way to stock uo for a long term event such as a worldwide food shortage
Where I live 20 years ago
there was a snowstorm, and the wind kept blowing it over the highways and an old timer told me the trucks couldn't make it here for 3 weeks. She said the grocery stores had food for 1 day only, and then there was no more for the three weeks until the trucks could get in. The ones who had food weren't bothered. But personally, I wouldn't like to go without food for 3 weeks.
You're so narrowly focused...
Yes, store some food. Everyone should store some food. Everyone agrees with that. My god.
The point is, the whole fucking country doesn't have to go crazy to stockpile months and months of food. Instead of causing a regional food shortage (as the storm did in your story and can be recovered from very easily), the whole nation would face a shortage of food if everyone cleaned out the stores at one time throughout the entire nation.
What's the point of stockpiling months of food, if you're just going to create an immediate need for that stockpile?
Most people in this country
won't store food, and certainly won't clean out the shelves UNTIL an emergency. The people who store food will be buying food from food storage people, and some locally, but it will be only a few in each locality. It won't affect a need or shortage anywhere. But it will help having some people having stored food for the ones who didn't when and if the time comes because there will be less people looking for food. I certainly don't want the whole country going crazy doing this either, but there isn't any chance of this happening, too many people are not aware of our economy, etc. Our family has had to live on stored food several winters, so I know how valuable it is.
And it would be nice if you'd learn to read...
...as I did say "Yes, it's good to have some food on hand..."
There are canned goods
Fortune Favors the Bold
Freeze dried foods, bottled water. Regardless of whether this article is accurate, it never hurts to have extra supplies.
Fortune Favors the Bold
We now have our political leaders cutting deals
with anybody, and everybody for their financial gain. Our well being is not even a consideration anymore. Just look at the immigration mess. That's such an easy problem to fix, but it won't be because of the deals our politicians have received in exchange for "doing nothing". You can't tell me that they have our interest in mind! Now let's look at food supplies, and survival in a real "gritty" world, beyond what most of us now imagine. What if financial institutions collapse around us? You run to the bank and pull out your few thousand of cash.........only, oops, the stores don't have any bread on the shelves. Diesel is at $3.50 a gallon for these trucks. How much bread will your cash buy when a simple loaf, if you can find it, cost $5.95? Our little system is way more fragile than we'd like to think.
alan laney
Heh...
For what it's worth, I paid $3.81/gal for diesel today...
Yours in Liberty,
Shovel
Yours in Liberty,
Shovel
"Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote..." ~ Ben Franklin
"The 'cost of freedom' is risk and responsibility..." ~ Me
Hope for the best ,expect for the worst!
Since when is watching the stock reports (is wheat futures doubling crazy to react to? )or looking at the gmo(monsantos)foods,the food stock pile is at its lowest in 40 years we import more then we grow the corn for ethonol,corn syrup,feed takes up most of america and 95 % of our agricuture is grown in California so we rely on imports and what if others follow Iran in stopping oil from going the American DOLLARS???
We will have a total colapse of the world econimy and food will be the olny thing that matters and bibles,bullets and fresh water!Dont believe people that say every thing is fine dont worry!The truth is this guy scares me he is a true devil in the flesh and I cant believe he is a RP supporter!
THE UN
Is about the most useless organization ever founded..I wouldn't believe anything they said..there is no imminent food shortage...stock piling food is totally ridiculous
People have stockpiled food
since they were an agrarian society. Heck, my parents and grandparents, etc etc. ALWAYS canned and preserved food for the winter, as have all farmers throughout history, until recent times when we can go to a supermarket and buy food that is produced worldwide (having seasonal food from somewhere all the time). I grow my own food,(I am not a farmer) and if I didn't save it for winter, we wouldn't eat in the winter some years, because our work is seasonal, so we have very little money in the winter. Or maybe you would suggest going on food stamps? Probably, because you don't seem to share the good doctor's views on self sufficiency and responsibility. I guess you havn't read much history, as modern times are VERY different than 99% of history, when it comes to food. People throughout history have saved the summer's harvest for the rest of the year. As to imminent food shortages, maybe there will be or maybe there won't be, but there is a housing bubble, which means no work for builders, which means less work for others, so those people who will be out of a job who store food, will at least eat during their hard times. (This has worked for us MANY times). Being out of work is hard enough, but can be endurable when you can eat well, having stored food up.