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Submitted by Brent1776 on Sun, 10/21/2007 - 22:05
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First off- I have been watching Fox News channel for over 7 years and have been a big fan of them. I voted for George W. Bush in 2000 and 2004 and I even supported the decision to go to war against Iraq.

However, I completely support Ron Paul and Paul has convinced me that I was wrong in initially supporting the decision to go to war against Iraq without a declaration of war from Congress. We basically have gone to war to enforce a U.N. resolution.

Fox News just does not get the dissatisfaction that the base of the Republican Party has with the direction of both our country and the Republican Party. We don't want Romney, Ghooliani, or McCain.

We want a candidate that supports our Constitution, our national sovereignty, securing our borders, and wants to dismantle the welfare big government state. Fox News and Sean Hannity just don't get it. They don't get the level of frustration that we Americans have with the direction of our country.

Ron Paul is the most principled candidate running. How they could ignore and criticize him really undermines their credibility. He is everything that a Republican candidate is suppossed to be. Perhaps Sean Hannity and Fox News should re-read both the U.S. Constitution and the Republican Party platform.

Additionally, Fox just announced the final results of the debate poll. The winner was Ron Paul with 34% of the vote followed by Huckabee with 27%. Hannity just criticized the results saying he "wasn't a big believer in that poll." Yeah, lets only believe the results we agree with. Hence my point- they just really don't get it. I am not the left wing anti-war Ron Paul supporter. I am the ex-pro war Ron Paul supporter. I am the base of the Republican Party and I support Ron Paul. Wake up Fox News.

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Hurrah for You!

Submitted by gardeniabee on Tue, 10/23/2007 - 01:02.

Brent, I'm impressed. I'm glad you posted.

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"A hero is someone who understands the responsibility that comes with his freedom." -- Bob Dylan

Hannity

Submitted by ThaQuietStorm on Mon, 10/22/2007 - 12:21.

How hypocritical it was to see Hannity try to dismiss the text message poll: "They're just stacking the deck", when the deck was so obviously stacked against Ron Paul all night - NeoCon crowd, again only a minimal amount of time compared to Rudy Fred McRomney, etc.

E-mail too Hannity

Submitted by sleuth51 on Mon, 10/22/2007 - 09:16.

Sean,

Thanks for being civil towards Ron Paul last night. He gets more donations from the military than anybody else. Doesn't that fact give you heartburn. It sends a powerful message doesn't it?

The numbers below reflect contributions to Ron Paul's campaign the last three weeks:

Oct Week 1: $321,054
Oct Week 2: $501,674
Oct Week 3: $676,452

Ron Paul has 1,000 Meet Up Groups across the country. This weekend we paid $500 to have a Ron Paul booth at the Star Wars Convention. This $500 is not counted in the contributions. His support is growing exponentially. The people who booed him last night, told us what kind of characters they are - nothing an American would be proud of and you should renounce such behavior as un-American. I'm not voting for a pro-life, pro-war candidate, neither are Ron Paul's supporters. We don't fall for the lesser of two evils card trick.

Albert Meyer

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You are not alone!!!

Submitted by Cedric_fl on Mon, 10/22/2007 - 07:50.

Brent,
When I read you post, it was as if you were typing my story. I agree with everything you are saying and have been telling this to all who will listen. I am glad that I'm not alone in this fight. GO Ron Paul 08!!!!
Cedric

I will be voting for Ron Paul, even if he is not nominated!

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Bravo

Submitted by cooper11 on Mon, 10/22/2007 - 00:16.

Brent, it takes some serious gonads for someone to admit he/she was wrong and join the oppossion. FreeRepublic has a whole website dedicated to people who refuse to admit they are wrong or taken for a ride by 3 Card Monte dealers.

I knew the war was entirely based on lies from the get-go since I refused to read news from US sources and followed the lies from day to day. I voted for Paul in 1988 as the Libertarian candidate. Without the internet, and the ability of thinking people to apply their own research, Paul would probably still not be a viable candidate today.

I Like It

Submitted by gardeniabee on Tue, 10/23/2007 - 00:59.

I read your article, carbonpenguin, and I like it.

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Gwen Kraft

"Personal Liberty & Personal Responsibility" -- Dr. Ron Paul

"A hero is someone who understands the responsibility that comes with his freedom." -- Bob Dylan

Media Bias is a very old topic

Submitted by zenpiper on Sun, 10/21/2007 - 23:22.

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We have talked about this here quite a bit, but it is worth repeating.

It is not just Fox—though they are quite obvious in their favoritism—it is all of the major TV networks, many radio networks (Clear Channel for example) and most of the major daily newspapers. They have an agenda, and treating Ron Paul fairly is not part of it.

Since 1971, when The Pentagon Papers was published by the New York Times, the White House began to restrict "access" to news organizations that were unfavorable in their coverage. Additionally, the CIA—which was already on staff at many media—began to vet the stories. If they didn't approve, the story would be spiked. Since then the media have been the lapdogs of the White House, the corporate elite (who own most of the media anyway) and the influence of the Council on Foreign Relations. On tonight's debate Brit Hume and Chris Wallace are CFR members; Giuliani, McCain, Romney, Tancredo, Thompson and Huckabee are also members. Ron Paul was the lone non-member.

Ron Paul's position on most of the issues is a challenge and a threat to the status quo. It should not be like this, but it is. We have not lived in a free country for a long time; but it is becoming more apparent to many now, particularly since the press will rarely report the truth about what is going on.

Now and then there will be a favorable piece about Dr. Paul. This is to give the appearance of fairness, as opposed to true fairness.

Can anything be done? I'm afraid not. We simply have to keep working to support Dr. Paul and his message. While the government controls the media and just about everything else; they do not control the hearts and minds of the citizens. That is where we have a slight advantage.
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Media bias

Submitted by MashTheGas on Mon, 10/22/2007 - 00:56.

Corporate mainstream bias is a current and constant topic. You have railed aginst bitching at these news organizations in post after post, zenpiper. I for one think it does a great deal of good to contact the corporate tools and let them know we are pissed. It worked at CNBC on their RP cencsorship and it seems to have done some good here at FOX. Hannity mentioned TWICE in the after debate interview with RP that they recieved many emails and it looks to me like RP was indeed treated a bit differently and given just a little more of his due.

If you don't want to participate in these emails to these propaganda machines, then don't. But quit trying to discourage those of us who do!

I spend a good part of my day letting these people know that I am a voice out here and I do not like the way they are marginalizing a great man and a great message! This is OUR America, I want it back!

I'm mad as hell and I'm not going to take it anymore!

Well...

Submitted by zenpiper on Mon, 10/22/2007 - 07:56.

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I worked at NBC network from 1983-1998, and I learned a few things.If I am biased it is because I saw what went on.

I do not "bitch" by the way; I state what I know.

Do whatever makes you happy!

Oh HELL YES.

Submitted by conza88 on Mon, 10/22/2007 - 06:05.

Right on, right on. Ignore those that try to shoot certain sections of the movement down. If WE don't show the media, that we are holding them accountable, then WHO the hell will? Every email matters, every voice will be heard! Every BS broadcast, replied with veracious vigor from vary many verboscious virtuers, by God they will feel our verocity! ;p (some words made up) heh.

are you wasting your time?

Submitted by ProspectorSam on Mon, 10/22/2007 - 05:45.

"I spend a good part of my day letting these people know..."

Until the other day, when the CNBC guy and the CBN guy both publicly waved the white flag from under a mountain of pro-RP emails, I would have maintained that your efforts were time wasted. Now I'm not sure. It may be a reasonable use of time. If you're in an early primary state I'd suggest doing more targeted outreach and less fighting against the Dino Media, but if you aren't urgently needed "in the streets" maybe it's worth some time to pester the turkeys. Of course, it's your call....

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CFR Memberships

Submitted by idahopaul on Mon, 10/22/2007 - 00:33.

This is my first post on Daily Paul. I see a lot of comments about candidates being members of the CFR. I think it is easy to assume that many of them are members. However, I think it is important that we are certain someone is a member without making that claim. I know that McCain and Thompson are certainly members. As for Guiliani and Romney, it wouldn't surprise me if they had recently joined. I'd be surprised if Tancredo is a member and I don't believe Huckabee is. Is there a link to a site where you can point to who truly is a member of the CFR.

This is the most current membership roster I could find (May 2007):
http://www.geocities.com/zembmor98/cfr2006roster2.html

No Guiliani, Romney, Huckabee, or Tancredo.

I also don't see Brit Hume or Chris Wallace.

If you have information that says otherwise, please share.

Thanks.

Hi IdahoPaul,

Submitted by gardeniabee on Tue, 10/23/2007 - 00:52.

Just a note to welcome you to the RP forum.

It's great to have you here.

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Gwen Kraft

"Personal Liberty & Personal Responsibility" -- Dr. Ron Paul

"A hero is someone who understands the responsibility that comes with his freedom." -- Bob Dylan

Google

Submitted by MrMoose on Mon, 10/22/2007 - 08:59.

If you search for Giuliani CFR or Romney CFR you will find info. I couldn't find Huckabee, however. But he supports the war in Iraq and that might be why he is not given the criticism that Mr. Paul gets.

Idahopaul

Submitted by Bob W on Mon, 10/22/2007 - 01:35.

There was a post here several weeks ago or more that had a link to all CFR. Chris Mathews, Hume, Guliani, Barbara Walters, all CIA heads....many, many more. One post showed Ronnie Reagan. Not sure if true or not.

I think Ron Paul was a bit disenchanted with Ron Reagan after he got into office, but not sure. That could be reason why.

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Reagan

Submitted by MrMoose on Mon, 10/22/2007 - 09:02.

I thought Reagan was a nice man but people forget that he ran the debt way up. That is probably one reason why Mr. Paul did not like him. Reagan was not fiscally conservative and spent too much money. The Star Wars missile shield took billions and never happened.

Reagan Not CFR

Submitted by idahopaul on Tue, 10/23/2007 - 00:36.

Yah, the deficit really exploded under Reagan's administration. But I am certain that he was not a member of the CFR (though the vast majority of his advisors were). I'll see if I can find any more current info on Guiliani, Romney, etc. In any event, it really doesn't matter a whole lot whether or not they are members of the CFR. If they cow-tow to this organization, they may as well be members (like G.W. Bush for example).

Amen

Submitted by royswoll on Sun, 10/21/2007 - 23:08.

Well spoken. We are the base of the Republican party. I also voted for Bush in 2000 and 2004 and am seriously disappointed. This revolution is just beginning and will continue whether or not Ron Paul wins or loses.

I am just like you

Submitted by SIERRAHPBT on Sun, 10/21/2007 - 23:13.

I voted for bush in 2000 and 2004.. i won't be lied to again.. fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me!.
RON PAUL IN 08

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I left the party during

Submitted by xd9fan on Sun, 10/21/2007 - 23:25.

I left the party during Katrina...I had enough

boycott foxnews advertisers

Submitted by marinesforpaul on Sun, 10/21/2007 - 22:56.

enough is enough. bankrupt them.

It's time to start doing this

Submitted by miamiballoonguy on Mon, 10/22/2007 - 07:40.

That debate was the biggest waste of my time. Ron Paul got 5 to 6 minutes of time?
Mike Huckabee? A Theocon Tax Hiker? Hell, I would rather Hillary won over any of those losers...

And you wonder why people hate republicans...

Oh and what the hell was up with the Super Romney Hair at the beginning of the debate?

I'm boycotting fox and their advertisers...

The free state project is looking better and better...

Not a Bush voter

Submitted by jons on Sun, 10/21/2007 - 22:43.

But I was a Bob Dole Voter. I was a die hard republican until about 1999. I left the party for 8 years. I am back if RP can talk some sense back into the party.

Me too

Submitted by salberty on Sun, 10/21/2007 - 22:41.

Voted Bush in '00 and '04...in fact I've only voted my republican my whole life. When they talk about the GOP base, they're talking about ME...and I support Ron Paul.

I really like your

Submitted by mike911 on Sun, 10/21/2007 - 22:35.

I really like your statement, "I am the base of the Republican Party and I support Ron Paul." That about sums it up, don't you think?

Republican Base to Fox News . . .

Submitted by tkrpoth on Sun, 10/21/2007 - 22:53.

This is the catch phase. This is how we should spin it. I voted Bush twice. My wife did also. You're right we are the base. Lets use it. Let let the sponsors know we are the base and we don't approve.

RP08

PROOF OF FOX NEWS BIAS!

Submitted by jednp on Sun, 10/21/2007 - 22:22.

Watch this video if you want proof of the bias that FOX news does.

Found this over at www.RonPaulNation.com and I think it should be a front page video here too.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t3kI8LNTqNo

So?

Submitted by dblbuzz on Sun, 10/21/2007 - 23:58.

Nothing in that video that I feel was exclusive to Fox. I believe that Fox perpetuates the neo-con agenda and that MSNBC perpetuates the progressive agenda. CNBC perpetuates the mercantilistic agenda. That's not really news, is it?

All news channels are biased. In fact, anything touched by human influence is inherently biased. There is nothing wrong with bias, as anyone with a single firing synapse will see it for what it is. We all want our world view to be the accepted wisdom. That's the nature of the beast.

As the revolution gains steam, the conventional wisdom will be redefined and eventually it will be OUR bias that you see on the nightly news. I certainly won't complain about that.

Ron knows that he never gets a fair shake in these debates, but it doesn't trouble him in the least. He knows that he is educating a new generation that has never heard this message before. Ron has formed a symbiotic relationship with a new generation of voters, each drawing energy from the other.

In this respect, Ron Paul has already won. After this election cycle, there will be many more of us who feel that, in almost every case, government is the problem, not the solution. We will build on this incrementally and take this country back from the nannies and imperialists.

Ron Paul will not be our next president. To believe otherwise is to ignore how far down the road to socialism that this country has gone. There is simply not enough time left in this election cycle to educate an electorate which has been incrementally cowed by the leviathan since Lincoln.

Ron is Barry Goldwater, take 2. Barry enabled Reagan, and Reagan was as close to a small government conservative as we've been in a very long time. Right now Paul may be planting a seed in some frustrated 20 something's mind who will eventually lead this country back to the republic it once was.

If you believe that...

Submitted by Cameron Davis on Mon, 10/22/2007 - 01:18.

"Ron Paul will not be our next president"
Why are you wasting our time by posting on this site???

Ron Paul will be the 44th President of the United States. We are working hard to make that happen.

If you're not willing to paddle, get out of the boat and swim on your own.