Gotta hand it to you Daily Paulers!!!! Check out Drudge ...
Submitted by justjenmi on Wed, 02/27/2008 - 21:13
I just popped on Drudge (9:11pm EST) and this is one of the headlines:
NYT: MCCAIN'S BIRTHPLACE IN CANAL ZONE RAISES ELIGIBILITY QUESTIONS...
(It's not an active link on Drudge yet, unfortunately)
Personally, I don't think I posted on the multiple threads regarding this issue, but I thought it was neat that so many Daily Paulers were on this issue before anybody in the MSM was!!!!
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Hindsight
I just wonder why none of this could have come up BEFORE all of McCain's primary victories, which the MSM has used skillfully to play up McCain's "frontrunner" status. I've talked to people while canvassing in my neighborhood lately and following up, and other people around town who saw my bumper sticker or T-shirt, and they all seem to think Ron Paul doesn't have a chance because of McCain's primary victories. How unfortunate.
By the way, you know I had a thought. I happened to hear Neal Boortz today (I'm NOT a regular listener, but there was nothing else on) and he said, along with a caller, that in open primary states the opposite party members tend to vote for the WORST candidate in the other party, just to make it that much easier for their party's candidate to win. It's a theory, but it just might be true. In addition to vote fraud, there may have been Democrats purposely voting for John McCain, knowing how sinister he appears and how war-mongering he is, so that it would be that much easier for Obama or Hillary to win. Personally, I don't think there would have been many people to vote like that, but you know, politics is all screwed up all over.
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Go to https://forms.house.gov/wyr/welcome.shtml and use 44102-3198 for the zip code. This will bring up a form to use to contact Dennis. Paste this in the message window and ask what he can do to help us. That is what I did today. Feel free to not only contact Dennis, but your Congressional Rep. too.
RESOLUTION
OPPOSING INELIGIBLE CANDIDATES FOR PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES
PRECINCT # _____________
SENATE DISTRICT # _____________
_____________ COUNTY, TEXAS
WHEREAS, the 14th Amendment and matching regulations limit citizenship to natural born and naturalized.
WHEREAS, John McCain was born in 1936 in the Canal Zone to citizen parents.
WHEREAS, 8 USC 1403(a) declares naturalized citizenship in 1952 on persons born in the Canal Zone to citizen parents.
WHEREAS, 8 USC 1403(a) applies to John McCain at age 16.
WHEREAS, John McCain is a naturalized citizen.
WHEREAS, the Canal Zone was not part of the United States.
WHEREAS, John McCain was not born in the United States.
WHEREAS, John McCain is a citizen not born in the United States.
WHEREAS, John McCain is not a natural born citizen.
WHEREAS, Article II of the Constitution states to be President a person must be a natural born citizen.
WHEREAS, John McCain is not eligible to be President of the United States under Article II of the Constitution.
WHEREAS, John McCain should be disqualified from running for President and should be decertified and removed from all present and future Presidential ballots, and his past results should be disallowed.
THEREFORE LET IT BE RESOLVED that the Republican Party of Texas will update Party rules to leave uncommitted, delegates of a non-qualified candidates for President of the United States; and
LET IT BE FURTHER RESOLVED that this resolution be passed to the rules committee of the appropriate District and the State of Texas for full consideration.
Adopted by Precinct # _______ in Senatorial District # _____ of ____________ County, Texas on March 4, 2008.
Precinct Convention Chair _______________________________________
_______________________ County, Texas
Telephone __________________________
Sincerely,
[Your name]
[Your address]
Dr Paul Could Very Well Have "Legal Standing"
Regarding John McCain’s official birth status as defined by the Constitution, as the Times article points out, this is an important point of Constitutional Law that needs to be resolved, once and for all. The key though to resolving such an important Constitutional issue by the highest court America is that such a case would first hinge on the fact that the person or persons bring the case to this Court must have strong “LEGAL STANDING” or it will just be disregarded. Doctor Ron Paul, I believe, may be the only person in the country, at the present moment in time, with such strong standing. He is both a lawfully elected senior member, in good standing of the United States Congress and he also, in a lawfully and direct competition with John McCain for the Republican Nomination for President of the United States. The fact that he is a member of Congress gives him a special and historical right to petition the Supreme Court directly and the fact that both reasons rise to the Federal level, gives him, I believe, a very strong legal standing.
He should get Kucinich to do it.
I think the backlash of bringing a something like this up might out weigh the benefits. If Kucinich brought it before the court he would be a hero to the Dems.
You make a good point but.......
You make a good point but I don't believe that he would have near the strength of Dr Paul's "Legal Standing". Remember, Kucinich has dropped out of the race and he was in direct competition with McCain, but rather running for the Democratic nomination for President, not the Republican nomination.
As far as your possible concern over a backlash, I would think that Doctor Paul would be seen as a defender of the Constitution, especially on the Republican side. In addition, it would put the Country and World spot lights on our American Constitiution. People that never heard of this document or once read this wonderful document would want to see what it say's. We must remember that this is the only document like it in the World and it was written as a foundation to our Grand Experiment of Personal Freedom and Liberty.Think of the potential postive publicity such a law suit would bring to Dr. Paul's campaign and the Constitiution.
GMA....
just gave it a brief mention!!!!!!! (yah, i know ABC sucks but it's the only channel we get).
Funny video about the possibility of an arnold presidency
Fortune Favors the Bold
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AXZ9gGy3MnY
Fortune Favors the Bold
2nd Mention on Fark
InSane's ineligibility has been noted on Fark.com, Drudge, and now, again on Fark! Their headlne this time:
"All Presidential frontrunners who are natural-born citizens making them Constitutionally eligible to be President, take one step forward.... Not so fast, John McCain"
Their link goes to this article at the International Herald Tribune (seems to be the same article as ran in the NY Times).
And tonight, my mom, who lives out of state from me, called to let me know of something she had heard on her local radio, having to do with InSane's ineligibility due to his not being a natural-born citizen...
Word's definitely getting out, far and wide! Between this and all the other woes befalling InSane, I'm beginning to sense that there may soon be a whooooole lot of freshly-available delegates to woo for RP...
Just tipped Drudge on my blog
So we'll see what he does with it. Meant to do that anyway.
Schwarzenegger
The part of the New York Times story that sent chills up my spine is:
McCain could merely be the wedge to get Schwarzenegger in for 2012 or 2016. Recall that a Schwarzenegger presidency was portrayed in the 1993 movie Demolition Man and the 1991 novel The Americans Are Coming. Recall also that Schwarzenegger is quoted in a 1976 magazine as saying he is "dreaming about being some dictator."The Wedge
This isn't good. Arnold figures "80% of the population needs to be told what to do." That's freaking scarey stuff. His connections with SA officers, CFR etc would bring the free world to it's knees. Sadly the sheeples would see this freak as "The Terminator" or the tough guy that saves America.
So they're saying that if McCain can be president this would be a loop hole to allow Arnold to run for president. This isn't good.
Schwarzenrenegger
This girly man is CFR. He hangs out at John Chambers house (CEO of Cisco, also CFR). Hangs out with other CFR members (Julie-Annie, McSaine).
The only way I'd ever vote for Schwarzenrenegger is if he became a man and joined the fight.
"Walls are stronger than the men that defend them."
Ghegis Khan
"Walls are stronger than the men that defend them."
Ghengis Khan
NYT LINK!
http://www.iht.com/articles/2008/02/28/america/28mccain.php
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Nice try!
Nice try, but this argument is null and void from the beginning.
Did you already forget? Believing that this argument holds any water, requires one to believe that our government actually follows the constitution.
Tell me how many senators and congressmen actually vote according to the constitution. If they are perfectly happy with voting away our 4th amendment rights, I surely doubt they will feel too bad about turning a blind eye to the facts here. You won't even need a 2/3 vote, because there will be no vote. There will be no issue. They simply don't care, and they could also care less that we are aware of this!
Someone please convince me
...that we are not under Maritime Law with the Constitution under continual suspension due to a state of national emergency under the War Powers Act, perpetuated like clockwork by every president since Roosevelt started it in 1933. Bush, Clinton, Reagan, Carter, everybody.
If true it explains why, as he points, they couldn't care less about the Constitution. Google this:
"... as the declared National Emergency of March 9, 1933 amended the War Powers Act to include the American People as enemies. This allowed Maritime Law to come onto land."[11][12]
...that pretty little flag with the gold trim that sits on a pedestal in your courtrooms ... is an Admiralty flag (an ensign, a military flag) flown on the open seas, not the American flag ... The US Constitution allowed for three types of laws, Common Law ('We the People'), Contract Law governing contracts and agreements, and Maritime Law that is to be used on the open seas to govern our Naval forces ... Only in times of war can Maritime Law govern on land. This is proclaimed by the president. This flag changes your status from Sovereign (God's Law) to subject (the Kings Law)."[13]"
The continuously renewed state of national emergency allows Maritime Law to presumably supercede the Constitution (in their minds), although I don't see how they justify that, since Maritime Law was supposedly enabled by the Constitution (yet the words "admiralty" and "maritime", both lowercase, both appear merely once).
Why convince you? IT is true..
We were re-organized as a socialist democratic government and the head of the Federal Reserve is the Govenor of America. The De-Facto Ruler.
they cannot use one part of the Constitution to override rights
Amendment 9 - Construction of Constitution. Ratified 12/15/1791.
The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.
2Chronicles 7:14 If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.
So now look up the definition of sedition
and tell me it doesn't apply to those who swore a false oath to uphold the Constitution.
in theory, you're correct
Tell me when any of our senators, congressmen, or presidents follow the constitution?
They have to follow it, and courts have to enforce it otherwise government can use the constitution to do anything to you that they want.
2nd amendment clearly says shall not be infringed. Look how well that's worked out.
1st says congress shall make no law. Hmm.. seems that McCain's campaign finance law violated that one there.
The list goes on and on. The constitution only works when A: politicians honor their oath, B: People ride their backs and force them to honor their oath, and C: the courts force them to follow the constitution, or punish them for not doing so when they blatantly and purposely violate it.
The Supreme Court isn't interested in ruling on constitutional issues. I'm amazed that there's even going to be a case regarding the 2nd amendment. I expect them to go as little into the true constitutional meaning of it as possible. They certainly aren't going to come out and say "every individual has the right to own firearms, including assault rifles and handguns, in order to protect them from those who seek to control them, including their own government".
They will say... sure, D.C. residents should be allowed to own a gun, or they shouldn't.
The entire system has to follow the constitution, and when parts of it doesn't, then checks and balances must take place... and they don't. They sure would when it comes to talks about healthcare though! But not when it comes to our bill of rights being violated.
That's why I say this whole McCain thing won't fly. they already don't follow the constitution, and I guarantee the average American could care less if McCain legally wasn't able to be president. They'd still think he should be, because he's a "hero" and has been a lifetime professional lobbyists friend.
They can do anything when we
They can do anything when we are under Martial Law...and, that is exactly what we have seen.
And, the reason we are under
And, the reason we are under Maritime Law and why Roosevelt was able to impose it in 1933 is because we have been under Martial Law since Lincoln declared it and never repealed it due to his assasination.
If you would like to learn more about this go to teamlaw(dot)org.
So, everyone who is concerned about Marial Law in the future, you don't need to worry...we have been under it since April 24th, 1863.
http://www.teamlaw.org/Hi...
http://www.teamlaw.org/HistoryOutline.htm
Missing 13th Amendment
That was news to me, from your link, dropped from the Constitution in the formation of the Corporate United States of America, full circle to the topic at hand...
The 13th Article of Amendment
to the original Constitution of the United States of America
“If any citizen of the United States shall accept, claim, receive or retain any title of nobility or honour, or shall, without the consent of Congress, accept and retain any present, pension, office or emolument of any kind whatever, from any emperor, king, prince or foreign power, such person shall cease to be a citizen of the United States, and shall be incapable of holding any office of trust or profit under them, or either of them.”
Full circle, indeed. Team
Full circle, indeed. Team Law's work is of the utmost importance and more people need to visit their website.
All your argument validates
All your argument validates is the fact that many senators and congressmen do not hold true to their oath of office.
An issue cannot be null/void simply because those who have taken oaths to uphold and defend the constitution do not do so.
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The real issue with McCain is...
The canal zone thing seems like it's a non-starter...
Where we CAN get the old SOB is on the loan he got and the fact that he used his government matching funds as collateral. This dog will HUNT.
Just one of many fronts here
They all are starters.
Black Mesa is the next one...
How ironic that on drudge the main headline
is the collapsing dollar and below that how Abu Dhabi investment fund is changing the financial landscape and McCain may be ineligible for to run for president. We are witnessing in real time what Ron Paul has been talking about for months.
The stars are starting to shine bright for us !
Drudge is huge, MSM most certainly looks at it for any nuggets it can find. McCain and Huckabee are in for a wild week, yes it's Wednesday already, but it's all good for us :-)
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it's not just a drudge link...
it's a story in the NY Times. This guarantees coverage on the MSM.