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McCain Not Eligible Covered By Cnn - Poll Now

I posted this towards the end of jan. Now MSM is picking up on it. This morning news covered it and is running a poll on their website.

They put the poll up to see what we think. We already thought and dont want McPain or another illegal president.

http://waronyou.blogspot.com/2008/01/mccain-not-actually-eli...

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Interesting comment from that Fox article - READ THIS

Comment by Greg
February 28th, 2008 at 5:49 pm
I was born in Berlin, Germany in 1954. My parents were both American citizens born in the United States. My birth ceritificate indicates a US Army hospital in Berlin. When I turned 18 I recieved a letter from the German Consulate in Washington, D.C. asking me if I was going to retain my German citizenship, which I declined. I had no “proof” of US citizenship and was instructed by US Immigration Office to obtain a certificate of US citizenship. I provided all the requested information and went through the whole cermony of becoming a American citizen. Does Johm McCain have a Certificate of US Citizenship? If he really is an American Citizen then he should have a certificate indicating so, or was not done becaase he was the son of an Admiral? Even with a certificate I’m not considered a “natrual born” citizen, but rather a American Citizen born outside the US to American parents, there is a difference. According to the US Constituion, there is a BIG difference.

Same with my daughter.

She was born in Germany in 1984 on an Air Base, the product of two American citizens. We were told at the time that she was a dual national, which meant that she would be given her choice of citizenship when she was of age. The only restriction we were told she had was that she could not run for President. We joked about it at the time, as we were not exactly political. At 18, she recieved her paperwork from the German consolate and declined her German citizenship. So she is a US citizen, but not elegible to run for POTUS.

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Very interesting.

Glad you invoked this into the conversation. Great point. I think Mr. McCain should show his citizenship. It should be brought to light so all Americans can see it. This should be brought to the front page and pushed onto the MSM. Thank You.

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This

This is not going to be decided by some stupid poll

Verbal gaffes are not proof

Verbal gaffes are not proof of anything. Who cares?

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"The main thing that I learned about conspiracy theory is that conspiracy theorists actually believe in a conspiracy because that is more comforting. The truth of the world is that it is chaotic..." —Alan Moore

Uh...

100 years, anyone?

For Liberty!! *GONG*

That wasn't a verbal gaffe.

That wasn't a verbal gaffe. He really was talking out of his tailpipe.

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"The main thing that I learned about conspiracy theory is that conspiracy theorists actually believe in a conspiracy because that is more comforting. The truth of the world is that it is chaotic..." —Alan Moore

McCain Withheld Controversial Abramoff Email too

On the stump, Sen. John McCain often cites his work tackling the excesses of disgraced lobbyist Jack Abramoff as evidence of his sturdy ethical compass.

A little-known document, however, shows that McCain may have taken steps to protect his Republican colleagues from the scope of his investigation.

http://blog4paul.blogspot.com/2008/02/mccain-withheld-contro...

Mine posted fine

this is what I posted on the fox noise site and about 10 minutes later it was posted:

Comment by mark
February 28th, 2008 at 2:50 pm
After having three serious contenders running for president ( Barry Goldwater was born in Ariz. when it was still a territory, George Romney, Mitt’s father, was born in Mexico, and Senator John McCain who was born in Panama ) who faced the “natural born” dilemma, this matter needs to be settled once and for all. Senator McCain has cited a Congressional act in 1790 that he says clears the way for his eligibility, but if a legislative act is in opposition to the Constitution (Article II and also the 14th Amendment), Constitutional law trumps it and it is deemed “unconstitutional”. The only ways to Constitutionally clarify this is either by amendment, or by a decision of the Supreme Court. This is in no way bringing into question Sen. McCain’s character, or his service to his country, or even his fitness to serve. If we are a nation of law, then we must follow our law and we need to clear this matter up as quickly as possible.

Mark

"When even one American -- who has done nothing wrong -- is forced by fear to shut his mind and close his mouth, then all Americans are in peril." Harry S. Truman

Mark

"When even one American -- who has done nothing wrong -- is forced by fear to shut his mind and close his mouth, then all Americans are in peril." Harry S. Truman

That's because you left out a spot

You left out that the 1790 Act was repealed in part in 1795 and in toto in 1802. That's why they let it through--it perpetuates the myth.

McCain Eligible?

This has just been covered on Bloomberg too :-)

And here's an interesting aritcle about it (No1 most emailed article today - No2 in 7 days - No4 in 30 days)

http://www.iht.com/articles/2008/02/28/america/28mccain.php

Sorry

My mind must be slipping with the dollar. Where is the poll? Could you put up a link so I can vote accordingly?

Now at 83%

As of 2:00pm EST:
Yes: 17%
No: 83%

My daughter (I am active

My daughter (I am active duty navy) was born overseas and I was told she would never be able to run for president because of that.

I emailed my dad this AM (he is retired army)about it and here is what he said about 2 of my brothers that were born overseas. (exact copy paste of his reply)

"I read up on this some this morning, & it seems that a child of a US citizen born overseas is considered to be a "natural born citizen". I was a bit surprised by that. When James & Jeremy were born in Germany, I was told that their US State Department Birth Certificate showed that they were US citizens, but because they weren't born on US soil, they couldn't run for the office of President. So I don't know. I'm sure that someone will disect this to pieces before the election. Maybe it's a good thing that Mike Huckabee didn't bow out.

true

I have friends who had kids oversees. they said the same thing.

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"The real terrorist's are in this country. They are not planning to blow us up,......... but rather, take our money, our freedom, and our country."

I'm not sure I buy that Military are special.

If a Haliburton contractor who is a US citizen working in Iraq on our behalf has a child on a Haliburton compound, is it a natural born Citizen? What if it is a woman and nobody knows who really is the father?

What if it is US service woman who doesn't know who the father really is?

What if the parents are US servicemen who are not US citizens but legal residents and have a child born on a US base?

Why would some in this country jump at the chance to deport spouses and children of our military because they aren't legal? The reason is, just because you are in the military, you aren't special. And neither should JM be.

its not that military are special,

its the place that they are born, embassies are considered U.S. soil but........people aren't born on the embassies.

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"The real terrorist's are in this country. They are not planning to blow us up,......... but rather, take our money, our freedom, and our country."

What?

No one is talking about deporting anyone. We are just talking about Presidential requirements of the Constitution.

That's a big deal here in CA

Appearently we have some servicemen who are legal residents and are eventually going to get citizenship via their military service who have spouses and/or children who are here illegally. The soldiers were freaked out because thier families where being threatened with deportation because of their status or misfiling of paperwork.

My point is, that just because you are in the military doesn't mean you are special in the eyes of the government. I don't think you should be granted all kinds of special acceptions because they don't apply across the board to all members of the service, nor does it apply the same to plain US citizens.

Would ya'll consider a child born to US legal resident (not citizens) military parents on an overseas military base a natural born Citizen? Why or why not? Or if the child was born in a nearby hospital instead of on the base. Catch my drift?

no,

because it is the rules of the Constitution and we must uphold them, and plus, that has nothing to do with what we are talking about here!

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"The real terrorist's are in this country. They are not planning to blow us up,......... but rather, take our money, our freedom, and our country."

The rules of the Constitution say you have to be born in the USA

If people are declaring Military Bases to be US soil, then why wouldn't children of legal residents (but not citizens) born on military bases be considered natural born citizens? Isn't that a slap in face to anyone who would serve our country?

The rules of the Constitution clearly state you have to be born in the US. Sorry Johnny, you may be a naturalized citizen but your not natural born.

Idiots. This is not a matter

Idiots. This is not a matter for polls. If pressed, it could possibly end up in the Supreme Court, but that is extremely unlikely.

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"The main thing that I learned about conspiracy theory is that conspiracy theorists actually believe in a conspiracy because that is more comforting. The truth of the world is that it is chaotic..." —Alan Moore

You Sir

I am not sure about your Ron Paul support and suspect you may be for McCain. I base this on your name calling of Ron Paul supporters and this shows your fear for our upcoming actions against McCain. In any event, name calling will not keep us down. It sure as hell did not keep Ron Paul down when the main stream media first started calling him "The crazy Uncle no one listens to."

dave mac

has called at least a dozen people names and driven several supporters off ths site..he is the one you should be leary of..No one really cares what you think sonny

Huh?

"has called at least a dozen people names and driven several supporters off ths site..he is the one you should be leary of"

I'm supposed to be afraid of this.... why?

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"The main thing that I learned about conspiracy theory is that conspiracy theorists actually believe in a conspiracy because that is more comforting. The truth of the world is that it is chaotic..." —Alan Moore

And how much have you sent

And how much have you sent to the campaign, son? Stuff it.

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"The main thing that I learned about conspiracy theory is that conspiracy theorists actually believe in a conspiracy because that is more comforting. The truth of the world is that it is chaotic..." —Alan Moore

IDIOTS?

Nothing wrong with attempting to use the system against our rivals. They have been doing that against Ron Paul for quite some time. Our job in the grassroots is to stand up.