what state is the best to live in
Submitted by yardworksltd on Mon, 03/03/2008 - 01:31
I live in Massachusetts and am considering leaving. I am thinking of selling everything I own and starting a new life somewhere else. What are the best states to live in with a good warm climate, and with no state income tax, Also with low taxes all around. Or is it better to pack up and go to Panama or Costa Rica. Has any body done this research.
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The future rise of the ULC
I personally do not see ANY state in the US that have the potential of being an ideal place of residence. Regardless, there are Taxes everywhere, corruption and power-hungry politicians, police organizations, greedy mega-corporations, the worsening environment, lazy leaders, debt, recessions... you name it. The 'freedom' is the only attractive quality the US possesses, but that freedom is being violated left and right.
The only two things I see for myself as potential solutions would be to either move to another country with some US influence (without all of the bad) or forming my own company controlled nation; the United Lunar Colonies (ULC). The moon is a great potential place to go to start 'fresh' and right all the wrongs we have experience through out the history of the US. Allow FULL research and development privilages to other prospective technology and biological firms so we can finally embrace a new future of enlightenment and immortality. Ultimately allowing us all to escape our bounds to earth and explore our space and beyond in search of life other than 'us'.
*Gives off a light shrug* Eh. My imagination is powerful and dreams that are addictive. These are my opinions and views any way.
"Minds will be freed, arms will embrace the black sea of space, our souls will accept evolving technology... all which will lead us to immortality and enlightenment." - Tarsus Endri, Turek Technologies, Inc.
Colorado Rules!
I am a Northern VA transplant, been in Colorado Springs area for 3 years now and love it. Great family friendly environment. Great for lovers of the outdoors - lots of camping, hiking, beautiful parks, etc. Driving distance to lots of other national parks and scenic areas. Weather is awesome - true, it can be 70 one day and a blizzard the next, but I love heat and snow so I am a happy camper! Even though we have DEM gov and house/senate, we are protected (somewhat) by TABOR (taxpayer bill of rights). Housing costs are low and air is clean. LOVE IT!
SHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!
There's already too many people living there!! :D
That's my hometown, born and raised but I left last year in search of "greener pastures" because of the severe growing pains there... :( One thing CO is REALLY bad about is trying to attract business to the area without having sufficient infrastructure in place to handle it....
Tannim...Manitou is my FAVORITE ---definately "my scene" hahaha.... :D
Used to live there, great place IF
IF you can get past the hyper-fundoid and blood-red politics. But at least Manitou Springs and the west side are oases of sanity from that.
Me, heading to TX soon. Also recommend WY and MT if you can stand the cold.
Colorado refugee...
here in WYO. 1/2 million people, so your vote goes a lot farther, but it has plenty of nanny-staters still. CO gun laws make them (CO) look like CA to us up here. Colorado is a beautiful state, but it looks best in my rear-view mirror on the way back home.
P.S. King Coal is cheap and plentiful, so I can stand the cold. But the vagrants, cockroaches, and those who transport cockroaches, seem to not be able to handle the cold. Darn.
THE MORE I LEARN ABOUT GOVERNMENT
THE MORE I LOVE MY GUNS
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THE MORE I LEARN ABOUT GOVERNMENT
THE MORE I LOVE MY GUNS
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The Lakotah Nation
listening to Russell Means right now - he sounds like Ron Paul....
Lakotah has just moved from all USA treaties etc... they are to be
their own sovereign nation - He said they are having problems with
imigrants (folks like us) freedom - gold, silver standards, no taxes
on and on. www.republicoflakotah.com
Russell Means
Russell Means ran against Ron Paul for the Libertarian Party presidential nomination in 1987. He lost, obviously. He's one of the good guys. Hope he's successful with his Republic of Lakotah, but I rather suspect the new FEMA camps are being built for folks like him.
Recommended reading: The Most Dangerous Superstition, http://www.larkenrose.com/store/34-books/2019-the-most-dange...
I say Montana
I live in New York ... I know that is all I have to say for people to get it :)
I used to think New Hampshire would be good but that has changed.
If not Montana then out of the US to Australia ~ I like their thinking ... if anyone does not like what they do or believes in something different they will not change; they tell you to leave if you don't like it, lol.
For anyone who is unsure about weather and fuel prices in Montana because of the cold and winters; you need to build a very energy efficient home on some acreage, which there is a lot of, and get solar and wind power as your main source of energy.
Aussies are very anti-gun
and their crime rate relfects it.
I hear Panama is good--ask McCain!
The obvious choice: New Hampshire!
We've already got the momentum! Join the hundreds that have moved - and thousands that have pledged - for liberty in our lifetime:
http://freestateproject.org/
And when you get there, get involved:
http://nhliberty.org/
I moved from Los Angeles, and it rocks.
Moving ANYWHERE from L.A. rocks.
because L.A. sucks!
jersey sucks too
Fortune Favors the Bold
we are a completely corrupt police state that is taxed to the teeth
Fortune Favors the Bold
Definately NOT...
The Peoples Republic Of Ohio. No Jobs, Police State, Taxes, Taxes, and more Taxes. Nanny State, Big Brother State, Corruption - State and local. Both Parties are entrenched in the good 'ol boy network...no freedom here nowhere. I am also looking for a free country to live in. I like Florida, but understand it is a police state...like the gulf coast...Fort Walton area..I am leaning toward Nevada at this point. I think we should all find the best state and then we should all move there and take over the place. Alaska is probably the free-ist state...I hate the cold...but I like the "other" climate in Alaska...I know for sure that you Do Not want to live in the Peoples Republic of Ohio. Thats for sure my friends.
I'm Buying in Panama
Unfortunately, it looks like the most popular state in the US is denial.
Been there, did that.
Hope you aren't bothered by big government managing your life---they're into that here. Oh and forget about 'quality workmanship' unless you do it yourself. But it really has some beautiful spots.
Nevada
Has no income tax.
I lived there for 30 years, until 1995, and it was very "libertarian" and taxes were very low.
In the last 10 years it's been invaded by people fleeing California, and they seem to love taxes. They must, they constantly vote to raise them.
Southern Nevada gets really hot in the summer.
I live in Washington now. No income tax but everything else is so expensive and taxed so high. It's also cold and rainy, but I like cold and rainy.
Nevada
is still the wild west. No state income tax. Nice and warm (you can drive to snow). Climate would support PV's, so no electric bills. Victimless crimes are legal there. Tons of wide open space. Good spot to be.
Vegas is kind of grimey though
Fortune Favors the Bold
sorry to anyone who lives in vegas. It reminds me of Atlantic City on a much grander scale. It's really pretty diving towards though.
Fortune Favors the Bold
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Idaho County, ID
yes, there is a state income tax, but Idaho County has no Planning and Zoning, no building permits required, is VERY RP friendly, and is the 3rd largest county in the US. The entire state is only about 1.3 mil. ID County has millions of acres of public lands where you can literally subsist on wild red meat (deer, elk, bear, etc.), wild fish (trout, salmon, steelhead, etc.), and, you can still stake a mining claim!!! The county stretches from MT to OR, and is very underpopulated. Out here, people still LOVE freedom. Outside of AK, you can't get much better than here all things considered.
It's only about an hours drive to a large metro area, Lewiston, and about 3.5 hrs from Boise, the Capitol. This is truly God's Country - He told me so :) ... don't tell anyone else!
Good luck in your quest.
Florida
Even though it is a haven for Neocons, the state is surrounded by free food, you can actually live without climate control, and your tie-rod ends last indefinitely!
I'm in Florida
I was living just outside of New York city before I came here. I had no more patience for the regulation that was going on there. Taxes were through the roof, a 30 or 40 year old house was at least 500,000. It was also quickly becoming a police state. In fact as I was leaving NY and heading to Florida at 4am with the car fully packed, I was pulled over and accused of going more than 20 miles an hour over the speed limit. I may have been 5 over honestly...if that, but when he saw the Florida license...automatic. Then I did what he expected and paid it and found out that they now access an additional $300 fine to certain tickets and the one he wrote me was 1 mile per hour into the fine. Good riddance New York! I don't miss you.
"Endless money forms the sinews of war." - Cicero, www.freedomshift.blogspot.com
I was planning to move there
until the neocons started raising the prices. I mean, all (food, gas, homes, etc).
"He who exercises government by means of his virtue may be compared to the north polar star, which keeps its place and all the stars turn towards it." Confucius
"He who exercises government by means of his virtue may be compared to the north polar star, which keeps its place and all the stars turn towards it." Confucius
The state of freedom and liberty
no matter what your geographical location.
Florida
no income tax
lower taxes on many things, including recently reduced property taxes. I visit my relatives there anually, it's a lean govt. You don't even have to get your car inspected.
"we fear change, especially nickels"
That is cool and all.........
But you should have your car inspected for safety reasons!
Vermont is decent too
Fortune Favors the Bold
Fortune Favors the Bold
If freedom to home school is your issue,
Don't come to TN. Pending legislation HB 2795 will force all private schools, church related schools, basically all home schoolers to adopt state chosen curriculum and will also require you to adhere to state testing standards.
May sound defeatest, but I believe it will pass reguardless of the amount of protest. That seems to be the way of things these days.
Sales tax is high (IMO) 9.250%
I lived for 10 years in
I lived for 10 years in California. California is one of the most over-regulated, over-taxed, over-priced and over-policed states anywhere. They were one of the first states to take your fingerprints for a driver's license. They have more roadblock checkpoints. They have primary enforcement seatbelt laws (cops hide in the bushes with binoculars looking for seatbelt violators). They have motorcycle helmet laws. They have very bureaucratic licensing and regulation for building permits and businesses.
I like Colorado a lot, but the politics is becoming very California-like and the taxes are pretty invasive. They do have relatively low property tax in many areas though.
A state without an income tax can be attractive and as an earlier writer noted a good plan is to live in Washington near Portland, Oregon. That way you can enjoy the fact that Washington has no income tax and do all your shopping free of sales tax in Oregon. The problem for me is that it is too rainy around western OR/ WA.
Alaska is truly the last frontier of freedom in America. The area just north of Anchorage is fantastic. It has a temperate climate and a good growing season and the scenery is drop dead gorgeous. Not only do you have lots of unspoiled land, you have big rivers and ocean inlets that are like fiords. Living on a sailboat in the inlet (during the warmer months) may be the way to beat the system.
Taxes in CO invasive? WhereTF in CO are you?
CO income tax = 4.63% flat rate
Avg Sales Tax = 7.5%, same as CA
Property taxes limited by Gallagher Amendment
Tax increases limted to voter approval per TABOR.
Tax refunds for excess revenue per TABOR.
It's actually damn low for taxes there, even with Amendment 23!