Explain Please how Ron Paul wins his congressional seat by landslide yet those very same voters give McCain their vote for the
Submitted by wineguy on Wed, 03/05/2008 - 12:40
Are people schizophrenic?....... How can people vote to give Ron Paul a landslide victory to represent them in Congress yet the very same counties and voters then vote for McCain for the presidential slot. This needs to be addressed. What is it about Dr Pauls message that does not even resonate with his own constituents when it comes to presidential politics?
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WOW!!!
I just had the most AMAZING revealation!!! People didnt' vote for him because they LIKE HIM, but didn't think he had a chance in hell of winning, so instead of voting for him as president and "throwing away their vote" they voted for McCain and Huckabee, whom they saw as possible winners. Just the same way people having been voting for candidates at EVERY ELECTION for a long long time.
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"Ehhh, What's ups Doc?" B.Bunny "Scwewy Wabbit!"E. Fudd
People's Awareness Coalition: Deprogramming Sequence
Really? Anybody willing to 'fess up?
I have never been in those shoes, but I can try to imagine myself there. I would not do that, regardless of what the media would like you to believe about me. Me, you know, this odd, detached part of "they" that are always confounding your every move. So, I don't think I am that special, a pretty typical Ron Paul supporter. Is there something different about Texans? Would anyone who actually did that be willing to confess here, just to prove me wrong? Better still, explain why you did it? I just can't believe people who understand what Ron Paul is about would be that shallow. If I split my vote up like that, I would have a better reason. Myabe along the lines of "screw the rest of you, I want him here working for me" although that is obviously not a valid reason, either. (Him nearly alone in Congress will do less for all of us than him in the White House.)
Even if a few people did that, this seems skewed to me. Prove me wrong, split voters? Spill your guts, you are anonymous!
Truth exists, and it deserves to be cherished.
WOW... except that's the
WOW... except that's the media conditioned self-fulfilling prophesy that helps the fraud go down like a spoon full of sugar. Wake up!
Why do they need to risk
being caught committing fraud when they are experts at "conditioning", they simply need to condition the people to vote a certain way. No fraud required.
"AAAH HECK, I REALLY like that Ron Paul but there's no way he can win, I'll just be wasting my vote..."
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"Ehhh, What's ups Doc?" B.Bunny "Scwewy Wabbit!"E. Fudd
People's Awareness Coalition: Deprogramming Sequence
This one is easy. Americans
This one is easy. Americans like to vote for a winner- whether he's the best candidate or not. No one likes to go into the office and say "I voted for the guy who got 5%."
So the hard core Ron Paul supporters vote for him, but those that are less committed say "well, McCain is going to win anyway and be my parties nominee, so I'm going to vote for him"
www.ronpaul2008.com
www.ronpaul2012.com
Brazoria County Congressional votes 11,463 President votes 3,611
Fort Bend Congress vote 3778 ......President vote 1950
Galveston Congress Vote 7962 .... President vote 1316
Victoria congress vote 3896 ........ President vote 893
Just in these 3 counties alone there were a total of 15,636 votes for Ron Paul for Congress!! BUT............. the total for the president slot from these very same counties is 4,159 votes.....Why the hell wouldnt Dr Paul get the difference of at least half of the votes that he got for his congressional seat. I am not suggesting fraud. I want to be clear about this.
I am just floored that his own constituents would "pull the lever" for Dr Paul for congress but not take the extra 2 seconds to vote for him in the presidential slot, or WORSE YET did they pull the lever for one of the other 2 guys????
I say the campaign needs to survey their constituents as to why this would happen.
Campaign Survey
I agree and will be calling headquarters with regard to this discrepancy. State wide it was a 1 to 5 ratio of voters from the 14th district voting yes for presidential versus congressional. Incredulus and therefore headquarters should make a study of this result top priority.
Yea, except vote fraud
Yea, except vote fraud exists and is an ironclad fact, so you need to consider that possibility in the equation as well.
Dont think it's vote fraud
I witnessed here in Colorado caucuses that Dr Paul would only get 5 to 10% of people supporting him. They went for Romney first and foremost than Huck and McCain in the same numbers. I came away from the caucus totally disillusioned. I actually went around to the different tables and confirmed these numbers. It was all done by show of hands and then written down on a piece of paper. The totals were at the most 10% Ron Paul.
In Presidential year elections
many people don't vote the whole ballot, they go and vote their chose for president and pretty much leave the rest of the ballot blank. So if you have say 10,000 voters turn out in the 14th Texas District, and say 800 are Ron Paul Supporters, then they mark him in both spots. So he has 800 votes for Congress and 800 for president. The other 9200 are none RP supporters and vote for McCain/Huckabee. Some of these McCain/Huckabee supporters DO vote the 14th spot, for Peden, though MOST just blank in McCain or Huckabee and leave the rest blank. And sure, there are going to be some that think he's a good Congressman but not President. Do some research before you cry voter fraud, you'll probably discover that only about 1/10 of the 14th district voters who cast a vote for Republican Presidential Nominee bothered to vote for the 14th Dis. Congressman spot.
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"Ehhh, What's ups Doc?" B.Bunny "Scwewy Wabbit!"E. Fudd
People's Awareness Coalition: Deprogramming Sequence
Well scratch this idea
I just checked some of the results, and I'M WRONG.
Just checking the first 2 counties,
Aransas County, 300 votes for President, 2575 for Congressman
Brazoria County, 3611 President, 11,463 for Congressman
VOTER FRAUD!!! LOL!!!
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"Ehhh, What's ups Doc?" B.Bunny "Scwewy Wabbit!"E. Fudd
People's Awareness Coalition: Deprogramming Sequence
I am not insinuating voter fraud
I like your explanation. But, I didnt know that someone who took the time to show up to vote for DR Paul for the congressional seat wouldnt vote him in for the presidential representative for the party. Makes no sense.
Here's some research
Here's some research buddy:
Electronic Voting Machines Whistle Blower
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z3hUPP_bdOo
Please wake the hell up.
I must have seen that 5 times already
Why would they bother to committ voter fraud to keep him out of the Presidential race and, since they are already committing fraud, go ahead and give the race to Peden and kick RP out of Wahsington entirely?
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"Ehhh, What's ups Doc?" B.Bunny "Scwewy Wabbit!"E. Fudd
People's Awareness Coalition: Deprogramming Sequence
His seat in Congress is a
His seat in Congress is a little less of a concern to these scumbags than the possibility of his new seat in the Oval Office. And if Pedenphile had won the fraud in that case would have just been utterly blatant and too risky. But the national race is different because they've built a perception in the public mind that McCain and the other establishment shills are winning/have won and so the fraud is swallowed that much easier.
Well said & I agree that
them "allowing" him to keep his Congress seat is of no threat to them; whereas the Presidency is a HUGE threat.
They also think he'll be "content" as long as he has his seat in Congress not to make too big a fuss when the sh** really hits the fan in the election and the vote count fraud runs totally rampant.
Good point, but
maybe after his stated commitment to keeping his seat they knew he would challenge any loss in his district if there was even a hint of impropriety. I'm not sure what to think of this but I think this discrepancy is worth examining.
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anyone from district 14 TX,
anyone from district 14 TX, what have you all been eating for the last two days or is it something in the air? It's stinky...you've better hope it was the mechine's fault.
Diebold vote fraud.
Diebold vote fraud.
This doesn't make sense
If they are going to committ voter fraud to keep RP out of the Presidential Race, surely they would ALSO committ fraud and kick him out of Washington entirely. Same exact machines counted the same exact ballots for BOTH races at the same exact time
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"Ehhh, What's ups Doc?" B.Bunny "Scwewy Wabbit!"E. Fudd
People's Awareness Coalition: Deprogramming Sequence
No, it's down to what they
No, it's down to what they think they can and can't get away with. A Peden win would have been unbelievably blatant fraud, the national campaign is something entirely different though as already stated.
Simple
They thought he will be a great Congressman but not a good President
JLH -- what?
You make no sense. Who are you voting for again?
This is actually the most
This is actually the most "unreasonable" explanation that I've heard so far.
ANYONE who truly understands the message brought by Dr. Paul would by default support him as President. And even if not 100% of his supports did use such illogical reasoning, it sure as hell wouldn't be 70% of us.
What are you suggesting?
What is the reason than for this glaring discrepancy?
Nah, he'd be a good
Nah, he'd be a good president. Probably one of the best, but without a wide base of support you'd pretty much be a lame duck from day one.
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Selfish?
Maybe they just wanna keep him for themselves!
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Good one, may be it's true ;)