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The real quesiton about Spitzer

Why was the federal government able to have a wiretap on a state governor? Obviously Spitzer is no ally of ours, but has anyone been able to see what justification the feds had to dig into his personal financial records and phone calls?

To me, that should be a much bigger deal (to the nation) than a man cheating on his wife.

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poor Eliot

Father is a NYC Real estate Billionaire. Eliot intervened on behalf of Silverstein during the trial for the insurance award for the WTC.

Spitzer stonewalled attempts to force an investigation into a host of 9/11 irregularities in Manhattan. His effort is fully documented

He has been using hookers for 20+ years. The US Attorney for the district of New York knew this. The New York State Attorney General's office knew this. The New York State Police knew this. A flock of NY media knew this.

He was being blackmailed for his hooker habit when he was attorney general in the GD 1990's. This is how our system works. Men are put up for office if they are "controllable." You are controlled with blackmail...whatever they need to get to you to do what they want. $5000 hookers are a tool of the bad guys. You saw the Godfather right? "We'll keep this quiet and you do what we tell you to do."

Why did the feds and the Israeli hooker company wrap him up?

Please don't try to sell me this "freedom fighter" crap. He was an arrogant fool who stomped on someone...the wrong someone.

There are very few men in our government who have the courage to fight for truth and the decency to be unblackmailable.

That would be the doctor and he is our leader. They are terrified of the doc because THEY CANNOT CONTROL HIM. The doc tells me to jump and I ask............. "how high!"


IRS ratted him out

from what I understand. They found some strange money transfers and thought it may be tax evasion. They audited, found out what he was doing informed the FBI. I am glad he is gone but there is an endless line of more of the same to take his place. Not a big fan of the federal government being able to surveil your money moves so easliy either.

kick it up

a notch

Remember: Debt is a form of slavery.

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The Washington Post article

I suggest you all read Spitizer's damning article of the federal government then you will know why he was being wiretapped and spied on. They had to take him out before he got too far.

In the article he documents that the federal government created new laws to obstruct the States from taking any preventative action against the housing market crash. The states saw what was happening and could have avoided it but DC made sure that it happened by creating oppressive new laws to stifle the States. ....... You heard me correct.

Apparently, the governement thinks no one will believe him now since he had sex with a prostitute. This is why they have bred an ignorant people.

Remember: Debt is a form of slavery.

Do you have a link to the Post article?

I would like to read it. Putting Spitzer's indiscrete behavior aside, I would hope that the invasion of his privacy would receive more attention.

"An economy built on fiat money is a society on its way to ashes."

Here you go


Remember: Debt is a form of slavery.

I agree

While I whole heartedly support moral and upright behavior, it is not possible to legislate people into them. What Spitzer did was morally reprehensible, but the violation of his privacy truly bothers me more. I get VERY uncomfortable when people's lives are ruined over a "crime" with no victim.

Truth exists, and it deserves to be cherished.

isreal is involved again

just like lewinsky clinton, mccreavey and the gay isreali, now the leader of this scandel is caught with 600,000 and 2 isreali passports. maybe its a honey trap.

yeah that's what I was

yeah that's what I was thinking. Why in the hell was the government investigating him and tapping his phones. I would like to think they were investigating him for some bigger crime but I bet not. This is starting to sound like federal blackmail. Am I the only one who doesn't care?
The man hired a professional hooker, he didn't fuck and intern, steal or rape anybody.

Just a moment folks

He was the attorney general?

You know? The HEAD CRIMINAL LAWYER for the state? The guys who is in charge of busting people for stuff like...hookers? and moving money around?

Like all of these issues are new to him?

We got some serious "layers" going on here.

Owner of the hooker company had an Israeli passport.

Major league cloak and dagger.

Whatever the media wants you to believe will be part true and part lie.


His bank reported him.

He was moving too much money around. Reminds me of what Dr. Paul always says... you shouldn't separate economic liberties and civil liberties... they are the same concept.

banks report hundreds of thousands of transactions a year

that fall within the broad "money laundering" regulations. They don't get investigated to this extent, if at all, unless someone has a legitimate suspicion or an axe to grind. They got Capone for tax evasion, they found something on Spitzer. A whisper here, a nudge there. And voila!, some apparently wildly stupid behavior.

Frankly, if Ron Paul were to pose a threat they'd find something on him too (with a good share less help from sheer stupidity on Dr. Paul's part, no doubt). Not to compare Ron Paul and Spitzer in any terms other than their ability to threaten the Wall Street status quo that we have so much to be thankful for these days, of course. Spitzer got in The Man's face one too many times...but hearing the story, it has the ring of divine retribution to it also.

spitzer made himself some serious enemies

on Wall Street. And these folks have some serious pull in the federal gov't. Sure its a big deal, but this is America...Spitzer's indiscretion absolutely outweighs how it was revealed. Rootin' out the evildoers is what we are about...whatever it takes. Shit, we lied ourselves into war and still can't really admit it to ourselves.

I am just baffled as to how Spitzer deluded himself into thinking he'd get away with it. He must have realized that he was quite likely being watched.

Spitzer not a team player

Sorcha Faal is running a piece on potentially sinister motives in the Spitzer affair. The story indicates he may have been drilling too close to the nerve and is therefore being removed. Well worth a look. If he was indeed investigating 911 and if Bush and Carlyle Group are indeed 911 contributors, then the story may have merit.



"All laws which are repugnant to the Constitution are null and void." --Marbury v. Madison, 5 U.S. (2 Cranch) 137 (1803)

"All laws which are repugnant to the Constitution are null and void." --Marbury v. Madison, 5 U.S. (2 Cranch) 137 (1803)

GOP is probably investigating democrats everywhere

Remember Alberto Gonzalez? Just more of the same stuff... they finally caught a big fish.


Jane Hamsher at Firedog Lake

Well, this is a liberal blog, but I've seen this article cited other places re Spitzer. Here's the link: http://firedoglake.com/2008/03/10/some-questions-about-the-s...

Here's some text:

"All kinds of questions arise here:

1. Why would the bank tell the IRS and not Spitzer himself if there was a suspicious transfer? Spitzer is a longtime client, a rich guy and the governor. We're talking thousands of dollars here, not millions. It doesn't make a whole lot of sense that they spotted a "suspicious transfer" made by the governor, and that this is how things began. It's possible it was just ordinary paperwork the bank had to file with the government whenever some particular flag was raised, but if that's the case, why did the DoJ go to DefCon 3?

2. What is a USA doing prosecuting a prostitution case? This isn't normally what the feds spend their time with.

3. Mike Garcia is a Chertoff crony. Sources familiar with the investigation say that he sent a prosecution memo to DC two months ago asking for authority to indict a public figure (Spitzer). Which means they had their case made long before the wire tap of February 13. Why did they then include this line from that conversation in the complaint?

LEWIS continued that from what she had been told "he" (believed to be a reference to Client-9) "would ask you to do things that, like, you might not think were safe -- you know -- I mean that...very basic things...."Kristen" responded: "I have a way of dealing with that...I'd be like listen dude, you really want the sex?...You know what I mean."

This salacious detail does not seem like it's necessary to make their case, and appears to be added for no other purpose than to destroy Spitzer's career.

4. How did Spitzer's name get leaked to the media, and who did it? Didn't happen to Dave Vitter.

5. Why did Mike Bloomberg suddenly start talking about running for governor recently? And why did he give $500,000 to Joe Bruno? He's good buddies with Mike Mukasey. What did he know and how did he know it?

6. The Mann Act? Are you kidding?

7. Spitzer's been in the line of fire of the GOP hit squad for a while. Roger Stone, Roger Stone, Roger Stone.

There are all kinds of things about this that just don't pass the smell test."


His bank flagged him for "irregular" (whatever that means) money transfers. That's when they started investigating.

Blessings )o(

Banks must report any transfer of $5,000 to the IRS.

Another little thing the Patriot Act blessed us with.
Just remember you are allowed gifts free of tax up to $10,000. But over $5,000 you become a suspect!!!!!
Freedom my a**. (Excuse the French).

However, another aspect is,
Bush wiretaps everyone.

And, the ring leader....
"Authorities raided Brener's home early yesterday and found $600,000 in cash and 19,000 in Euros in various safes, prosecutors said.

Brener, they said, had two Israeli passports in addition to his US passport. "
Remember, blackmail is the best form of control. So we should worry when our powerful politicians put themselves in positions when they can be blackmailed to do something for someone.

Remember Bill Clinton and his aide?
"You will recall that I report that the “phone sex” between Lewinsky and Clinton were al taped by foreign intelligence agencies and might be released at any point, a particularly dramatic point might be during Hillary’s run for the White House."

This is politics.

Watch and feel the power!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Watch and feel the power!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Banks are legally obligated to report that

to the feds, aren't they?

"No man has a natural right to commit aggression on the equal
rights of another, and this is all from which the laws ought to restrain him." --Thomas Jefferson

Libertas, Pax, Prosperitas

there are specific

thresholds for mandatory reporting of "suspicious" cash transactions. Many, many, many transactions of specific structures (defined by regulation) are reported. The customer is not notified since they are intended to uncover money laundering schemes.

Did a bank report transactions? Sounds like it. Was this the genesis of the entire Spitzer saga...doubt it, but I'll never be able to prove it.


But they didn't speak first to their customer (Spitzer) about the irregularities--at least according to what I've read.