More Lessons from 40 Years Ago
YouTube is faboulous! After watching the Chicago 10 trailer yesterday, and Dan Rather getting punched in the stomach in the convention hall, I followed the thread through a number of videos and found this one - a "debate" between William F. Buckley & Gore Vidal from ABC News. Amazing:
Note that it is an attempt at a serious discussion. But even in 1968, the MSM already had the divide and conquer strategy down: The "liberal" Vidal vs. the "conservative" Buckley. This is like the ancient forerunner to Crossfire, except they each have over 2 minutes instead of 20 seconds to make their point, and they don't interrupt each other. Buckley is incoherent, singing the praises of Nixon in his singsong voice...his singsong voice....
But the best part - in my opinion - comes at the end: The old Pepsi commercial, which demonstrates the nature of television, as described in Amusing Ourselves to Death (p. 104), which has quickly become one of my favorite books:
Viewers know that no matter how grave any fragment of news may appear...it will shortly be followed by a series of commercials that will, in an instant, defuse the import of the news, in fact render it largely banal. This is a key element in the structure of a news program and all by itself refutes any claim that television news is designed as a serious form of public discourse.
Imagine what you would think of me, and this book, if I were to pause here, tell you that I will return to my discussion in a moment, and then proceed to write a few words on behalf of United Airlines or the Chase Manhattan Bank. You would rightly think that I had no respect for you, and certainly, no respect for the subject. And if I did this not once but several times in each chapter, you would think the whole enterprise untrustworthy of your attention. Why, then, do we not think a news show similarly unworthy? The reason, I believe, is that whereas we expect books and even other media (such as film) to maintain a consistency of tone and a continuity of content, we have no such expectation of television news. We have become so accustomed to its discontinuities that we are no longer struck dumb, as any sane person would be, by a newscaster who having just reported that a nuclear war is inevitable goes on to say that he will be right back after this word from Burger King; who says, in other words, "Now...this." One can hardly underestimate the damage that such juxtapositions do to our sense of the world as a serious place. The damage is especially massive to youthful viewers who depend so much on television for their clues as to how to respond to the world. In watching television news, they, more than any other segment of the audience, are drawn into an epistemology based on the assumption that all reports of cruelty and death are greatly exaggerated and, in any case, not to be taken seriously or reported sanely.
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buckley
Buckley was a no good neocon and does not need to con any more people. He was no better than Bush, but he did his damage without running for office as many of them do, & a lot of people know it so this post in not getting many comments..
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So Much For DailyPaul
Every time I come to this site there's a pro Buckley post making front page news. Who's the author of this site? You lost all credibility with me.
Your love of a neocon founder, Buckley, shows your Ron Paul passion to be only skin deep.
I'm over this site. Get studying man. You're promoting the cause we're in bondage to and fighting to beat.
Craigbg
How can you possibly
How can you possibly interpret this post as "pro Buckley"???
What's up with the hatred of Buckley
here? The guy is for limited government intervention. He was a libertarian, and even spoke out against the Iraq war during his last years of life. In the video he's criticizing the welfare statism, taxes and persecution of of business by liberals and that upsets you guys? Why are you supporting Ron Paul?
Buckley is
One of the fathers of fascism. Dig deeper. You can argue for him until you're blue in the face but the truth remains. He's not only a neocon, he was recognized as "The Neocon."
Here's a piece of truth for you. Be sure and catch the last couple paragraphs about Ron Paul.
More Neocon Successes
No review of the rise of neoconservative prominence is complete without noting the role played by William F. Buckley in bringing it about. In 1991, Buckley sponsored an invitation-only, three-day conference for two dozen conservative Republicans. Enthusiastically described by Kristol, the event saw attendees arrive as conservatives first, but “by the end of the meeting, a significant reversal had occurred.... Most were Republicans first and conservatives second.” They would now accept increased taxation, more federal controls, and the use of America’s military under UN auspices to build George H.W. Bush’s “new world order.” (Though Bush never defined the term “new world order,” it has long been known to mean socialism and world government, the cardinal tenets of neoconservatism.) Newly identifiable neocons in the first Bush administration included Defense Department leaders Dick Cheney, Paul Wolfowitz, and Richard Perle. Delighted to be in charge of the world’s only remaining superpower, they set out to use America’s armed might to force their brand of “democracy” on the world.
Buckley’s little-known preference for the neocon agenda, both its foreign and domestic policy elements, deserves mention. In 1952, while he was serving in the CIA in what he later termed a “deep cover” assignment in Mexico, the widely accepted leader of American conservatism wrote in Commonweal magazine of the need for “Big Government for the duration,” and for “large armies and air forces, atomic energy, central intelligence, war production boards and the attendant centralization of power in Washington — even with Truman at the reins of it all.” Even before Irving Kristol, Norman Podhoretz, and other neocon luminaries, and even before anyone had even heard the term neoconservative, Buckley was promoting its agenda. More than any other individual, Buckley succeeded during 50 years of clever duplicity in taking real conservatives away from their roots and into the grasp of the neocons.*
In a 1996 edition of The Essential Neoconservative Reader, editor Mark Gerson jubilantly observed, “The neoconservatives have so changed conservatism that what we now identify as conservatism is largely what was once neoconservatism. And in so doing, they have defined the way vast numbers of Americans view the economy, their polity, and their society.” In that same year, veteran conservative columnist Sam Francis observed:
As the Cold War wound down, “exporting democracy” and opposing “isolationism” became the major neoconservative foreign policy goals, reflected in their almost universal support for NAFTA, the World Trade Organization, and United Nations “peacekeeping” missions.
Francis and Gerson, holders of completely contradictory views about the neocon takeover, were nevertheless in solid agreement about its success. A steady stream of neocon policy began flowing from such Washington-based think tanks as the Committee on the Present Danger, American Enterprise Institute, Project for the New American Century, the National Endowment for Democracy, and more.
When the 1994 elections produced huge Republican victories, Irving Kristol considered the stunning GOP success a neocon triumph. He knew, as many others did not, that GOP leader Newt Gingrich would be his ally. The Georgia Republican who was to become House Speaker had backed federal aid to education, land controls, foreign aid, NAFTA, GATT (which became the WTO), the Mexican bailout, the Export-Import Bank, the use of U.S. military force to “democratize” the world, the United Nations, and whatever else would take America away from limited government and non-intervention. His vaunted “Contract with America” was largely inconsequential fluff that kept the GOP from relying on the Constitution. Buckley and the neoconservatives were delighted, and the proud owner of National Review saluted Gingrich as a “greatly gifted” leader. There was little objection from the Clinton White House.
In 2003, one Republican congressman who has never been swept into the neoconservative camp addressed his colleagues in a speech entitled “Neoconned.” Dr. Ron Paul noted that replacing the Clinton Democrats with the George W. Bush Republicans “has not made a difference.” He attributed the lack of change to neoconservatives who had “diligently worked their way into positions of power and influence.” Among the modern-day neocons he named were Richard Perle, Elliott Abrams, William Kristol, Michael Ledeen, James Woolsey, Bill Bennett, Frank Gaffney, Dick Cheney, and Donald Rumsfeld. The redoubtable Texan then summed up the problem facing our nation:
Neoconservatism is not the philosophy of free markets and a wise foreign policy. Instead, it represents big-government welfare at home and a program of using our military might to spread their version of American values throughout the world.
In his speech, Paul condemned American Enterprise leader Michael Ledeen’s 1999 characterization of the attack on Pearl Harbor as a “lucky” event that led our nation away from neutrality. Ledeen had actually longed for another such event that could be used to entangle our nation in more overseas adventures. Paul also pointed to the Project for the New American Century’s hope expressed in 2000 for “a Pearl Harbor event” that he said “would galvanize the American people to support their ambitious plans to ensure political and economic domination of the world.”
Paul never accused neocons of support for or knowledge of the 9/11 event, but he stated very clearly that it has been used “to promote an agenda that strict constitutionalists and devotees of the Founders of this nation find appalling.”
After listing 17 neocon beliefs, each of which he rejects, the Texas congressman urged that those responsible for fastening neoconservatism on America must be “exposed” and “their philosophy of pervasive government intrusion rejected.” Count this author and this magazine in solid agreement.
Craigbg
buckley speaking
like nails on a chalk board, what an affected closeted self hating homosexual.
Better Debate!!! Buckley vs Chomsky
Sorry Buckley sounds like a crazy neocon. I know alot of you disagree with Chomsky on economics but foreign policy he is dead on.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VYlMEVTa-PI
Thank you.
Chomsky/Buckley is just amazing. And, as you said, Chomsky is "dead on." Buckley, having read Chomsky's book, is ready to duke it out. But, Chomsky is so quick and nimble with both language and with his thoughts that he simply shreds all of Buckley's parries.
h-daddy
Great report Michael!!
Incredible trip along memory lane!! The dumbing down of America has been a very long term project. Let's just hope and pray We The People don't allow them to finish the job before it's too late. Keep up the great work!
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"Lord I have no plans of my own save those you shall reveal to me." Dean Fagerstrom - The Mission Of Anglion
"Conservative" Buckley
Listening to Buckley as a Conservative is a joke. Buckely really had no understanding of Conservativism, that's why he was annoionted as Conservativism's spoksman, by the Liberals. Buckely was more interested in losing gracefully, in trying to sound like a philosopher, than he was in making a point.
Calling Richad Nixon a Conservative is another stretch. Nixon continued the policies of LBJ, broke all connection between gold and the dollar, and created a real enemy out of Communist China, with the help of his boss, Henry Kissinger.
Notice that Vidal only mentioned Blacks and Whites.
Hispanics where not a factor. How thing change in 40 years. What will happen in the next 40 years?
This is interesting
What do they say about history repeating itself? Well, nothing changes but only gets worse. Nixon was a pre-Bush kind a guy but Buckley was right; Humphrey and socialism were not the answer. I thought it was interesting that Gore Vidal said that Nixon wouldn't help the poor but he would give tax breaks to businesses that set up shop in their area. Well, if that is not helping the poor, then what is?
Now you know why Goldwater was a breath of fresh air and, eventually, Reagan. Both these guys just spout a lot of noise. And the noise just keeps getting louder. Vidal is right; disenfranchised America will soon revolt but it won't be the kind of revolt he was thinking of.
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The lip of truth shall be established forever: but a lying tongue is but for a moment...Lying lips are abomination to the LORD: but they that deal truly are His delight. Prov 12:19,22
a little more history
We do not need more tyranny in america. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HVDBPsluiSg
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A lot of strange things have been going on
A look back at some of our government activity's in the past reveal a lot about what goes on in Washington to day. .................. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=suS5BitLqvU&feature=related ....... .. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hmxo44Ra8Kw ..... We need a president and a congress that does not use unsuspecting Americans to experiment on. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5jDBLLMI7Q8&feature=related The way the government experiments on people needs to be revolted against. Join the Ron Paul revolution.
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