The Reason Banks are Trying to Discourage Cash Withdrawals

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I have been reading more and more about creating suspicions when making large cash withdrawals.

One thing I would just like to point out is that, while some of this may be accredited to actual fears of crime or terrorism or drugs or prostitution or whatever the hell they are trying to scare people about and say they worry about it for, the REAL REASON (meaning at the TOP LEVELS) that they are trying to make people afraid to withdraw a lot of cash is:

THERE IS NOT ENOUGH CASH TO COVER MANY BIG WITHDRAWALS.

We live in the world of fractional reserve banking.

For every dollar you have "in the bank" only 10% AT MOST is actually on hand at the bank. IN fact, with new rules that crop up all the time expanding the allowance, the reality is, maybe 2% is actually at the bank IF THAT.

The scare tactics are pushed to discourage people from removing THEIR HARD EARNED CASH AND CRASHING THE RIDICULOUS PONZI SCHEME SYSTEM.

So, just know that the other stuff is a rouse to discourage large withdrawals.

In fact, right now, if not for the "term auction facility" (look it up), banks on a whole would have NEGATIVE RESERVES!!!

Do you know what this means?

It means they would have negative net cash on hand!!!

Talk about the potential for a massive bank run and NO CASH BEING THERE!!

Ever seen "It's a Wonderful Life"? Think about that but much, much larger.

Now think about why you are hearing so much about them "watching big withdrawals"...

It's all a sham.

(Oh yeah, by the way, FDIC insurance is meaningless. They have maybe 1% of the funds needed to pay out all the insurance claims they would have, if that.)

The system is inherently bankrupt.

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Time to react.

It's time to attack the bankers, don't take their credit, use gold and silver for money, and buy a house that you can afford. I know some people who love what's going on. They have saved all their lives, and now are buying cheap houses owned by the bank taken by foreclosure. Of course if the banks don't sell these they are responsible for the property taxes, so they don't want to hang on to these for too long. Don't worry, if we play our cards right, the bankers will fall. We just have to get out of their system, use cash, cut up you credit cards, debit cards and live a simpler healthier life.

Thanks.

Great explanation below, now I am convinced it is best to get my money out of the bank.

Yeah, I am a bit concerned

I am concerned, but the majority of America is ignorant to the downfall of Rome. Perhaps it won't happen and hopefully we will all be wrong, but the general thought around here is that we are standing on our last legs.

Another reason they want you as a customer

Banks keep reserves like their own checking accounts with the Federal Reserve bank and currency (Federal Reserve Notes) in their vaults. These reserves are the base from which they create new checking accounts out of thin air; you borrow from a bank by signing a note to them which becomes their asset, and they create a checking account out of thin air for you, their liability. Notice they earn significant interest on the new loans, but pay little or no interest on the checking accounts, which is the whole reason for this scam banking system. Ordinarily they do not need to pay but a fraction of these checking account liabilities each day, and since these are settled out of their reserves, they only to keep small reserves (hence the term fractional reserve banking).

If you force them to draw down their reserves by getting currency in exchange for your checking or savings accounts, then you inhibit their ability to create these new checking accounts out of thin air. This means that they cannot as easily make new loans and they do not get the corresponding interest income. Credit conditions become very tight; getting a loan becomes more difficult.

It is not as much a problem for the banks to get currency to meet a possible run. They can convert their checking account at the Federal Reserve into currency; they can borrow currency from the Federal Reserve Bank, and in an emergency the Federal Reserve can buy loans from your bank in exchange for currency. Also remember that when you hold currency instead of a checking account you are still holding bank debt; it is just "safer" debt to hold when your local bank is on the road to insolvency.

Ultimately if you take currency from the banking system and banks lose the ability to make new loans, then the economy comes to a halt; economic activity under this debt based money system is dependent on a continuously increasing money supply. This is really a vicious contraction cycle, once it gets going. Once the banking system loses the ability to expand the money supply, the whole house of cards falls and we have a 1930's style event. Many people think that printing currency to fund bank runs is inflationary, but it is just the opposite. The money supply does not change in total, because the checking account component of the money supply goes down equal to the increase in the currency component. Not only do the banks without reserves or with reduced reserves lose the ability to expand the money supply, but people hold onto as much currency as they can so the velocity of money circulation goes way down; people do not spend; businesses fail and jobs are lost; asset prices go down.

What is happening in the economy today is highly dangerous. The financial institutions in their most recent binge of expansion accepted very low quality debt and entered into other complex transactions that are now increasingly subject to default. During this expansion, the price of real estate was driven to values all out of proportion to reality by easy credit. This real estate is security for loans, many of which were to people and businesses with inadequate ability to pay. The contraction in real estate values is just beginning and already the losses being suffered by financial institutions are unmanageable. Not just real estate loans are in question as the losses ripple through the system. Debt is now a four letter word. Insolvency is now a plague facing the financial system. Big name institutions like Merril Lynch, Citigroup and Bear Stearns have been in the news as examples of those in trouble.

"The deepest sin against the human mind is to believe things without evidence." Thomas H. Huxley

Great Explanation

Thanks :)

Bloody fridays

There already has been blood spilt, that is why we are in Iraq and about to go into Iran.

After I learned about the

After I learned about the fractional reserve banking system and how the federal reserve is really run here is what I did.

-Removed all savings from my bank
-only keep enough cash in my checking account to pay bills and gas purchases
-To fight inflation I put all my new acquired cash into silver
-Every paycheck, just enough goes to pay bills (growing weekly now though) and the rest goes into more silver.

It is great because it protects my money, I am actually making (well, fighting inflation very well) money on the silver and I am protesting the fractional reserve banking system. It also forces me to save more. When all my money is in silver it is impossible for me to make on the fly purchases that I would later regret.

Make Purchases With Silver

It doesn't hurt to ask a business owner if he'll accept silver at spot price. That's better than converting to cash and paying the commission.

If there comes I time that I

If there comes I time that I do need to spend the silver to pay bills, it will be either to individuals or on ebay so i do not have to pay the commission and taxes.

WOW!!

I could not have put it in better words. This is what I am doing EXACTLY.

After I learned about fractional reserve banking, thanks to Ron Paul, I am doing the same brother. I have to make a few more trips to the bank, to make sure enough is in there sometimes to cover some larger bills that come in, but I feel it is worth it with the mess we are in. As for the Silver and Gold. You stop yourself from making stupid purchases....because you don't want to get rid of your "REAL MONEY".

UPDATE from below - CLOSED OUR CHASE ACCOUNT

My wife just completed a FULL withdrawl/closure from our CHASE accounts and they issued her, at my request, a cashiers check for the large sum and cash for the smaller amount. They asked if she wanted ALL cash and the figure was relatively substantial, but they indicated they would have honored that much cash, however dangerous it may have been to carry around.

It was a series of reasons why we closed it (low level of quality & incompetent service) but the activity I see today sure helped solidify my actions.

r/s
John R. Ellis
"Citizen for Freedom"

Chase Manhattan

Fortune Favors the Bold

Will never go under.

Fortune Favors the Bold

Hope They Do

My wife's car loan is through them. If a bank goes under, do debts to them still need to be paid? Probably, but hey we can all dream.

Why do you say that?

What is different about Chase Manhattan?

Chase Manhattan

Fortune Favors the Bold

Is the Rockefeller's Bank

as is JP Morgan Stanley, but Chase Manhattan is their main one.

Fortune Favors the Bold

The said the TITANIC was unsinkable, too

That's not the point. It's not the bank, it's the system.

r/s
John R. Ellis
"Citizen for Freedom"

more so

Fortune Favors the Bold

that there would be blood spilled before the bankers let that happen

Fortune Favors the Bold

Keep your money in a bank, a piggy bank!

The only bank I trust is my piggy bank. I fill it will silver and gold coins and bust it open when I need it. It doesn't pay much interest, but it does protect against the inflation tax. If I want interest I will lend it to a person I trust by giving them a gold coin, and require the same in return (a gold coin) plus a fair interest rate, I believe the bible says 10% for a 6 year term, all unpaid debt excused on the seventh year. Of course this means I really have to trust the person I lend my money!

Keep in mind that pulling

Keep in mind that pulling your money out of the banks isn't enough. You will still be raped by inflation. If you want to protect the value of your money, you need to convert it to something that has intrinsic value, namely gold and silver. I recommend purchasing locally. Keep enough FRN dollars on you to purchase what you need, put the rest into gold and silver or even open up an account with a service like GoldMoney. Whatever you do, don't put your eggs all in one basket and don't trust the Federal Reserve Note or you will get burned.

401k

how about a large 401k worth 170000?

Example

In the early 90's in Brazil people would get their paychecks and immediately go to the market and buy food and other goods. If they waited and spent the money only at the end of the month it would only purchase 50% of what it could at the beginning of the month. Salaries of course were adjusted for inflation on a monthly basis. This could happen if dollars begin to return to the American economy. What is preventing this now is that countries are still required to have a reserve of dollars for purchasing internationally. Especially to purchase petroleum, which China is currently doing since they had a difficult winter and also to increase their reserves of petroleum. But if Iran manages to eliminate the middle man (Federal reserve dollars) and trade directly with other nations without the dollar, the dollar will become basically worthless on the international market and have real value only in the States. Now if people begin to withdraw dollar as cash, this increases the amount on the market, because banks do not hold the dollars as computer digits. Cash can flow from one person eliminating the need for banks.

Already Happening

Chavez demanding Euros for Oil (yesterday)

www.reuters.com/article/oilRpt/idUSN1334066020080313

You hit it

I'd been thinking about your analogy to 'It's a Wonderful Life' and darn if that isn't true.

When there is a run on the banks, George Bailey implores his S&L depositors not to withdraw their funds, since those funds had been lent to other people (ostensibly, other depositors) to build their homes. 'The money's not here' was the quote IIRC. In essence, the Bailey Savings & Loan had NO reserves. Their 'reserves' were the indebtedness of these homebuilders. Sound familiar? The S&L's wealth was the promise of others to repay their debts.

I'd been debating whether I thought George was a good man and by and large he was; he was just stuck with a Ponzi scheme of a business.

So now I see that there are really TWO legal pyramid schemes in existence today (where no real wealth is created): the Federal Reserve, and Social Security.

What happens to a cashiers check

issued by a bank that goes under, as most banks will not give out much cash at one time? To add to that question, if the FDIC runs out of money
to pay everyone.

Guess What

It is worthless. I have an old cashiers check in my hand from way back. The bank is gone, and it is just another worthless piece of paper! Get upir money out while you still can!

That is what I thought, not going to take the chance

so now will have to order money ahead from my bank in increments--you feel like they are doing you a favor for giving what is yours to begin with.

People are taking out money, not to put under their mattresses!

It is true that the Fed can print more money, but they don't produce or hold anything else. So the best thing to do is to buy durable food products, gold or silver before the run really gets started. When money is taken out of investments people need to spend it somewhere, since it would be stupid to put it under your mattress. As more money is taken out of reserves the price of goods goes up. You just have to be smart and not use credit, cause this will just eat up any value you have purchased.

Remember

When the house of cards falls, a lot of "wealth" will disappear back into thin air. I do not know if the fed will be able to keep up with the "wealth" vanishing. Keep some cash on hand.

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Freedom - Peace - Prosperity

Ok, just for fun...

uh, they are waiting for the Fed to print more because they ran out?

"He who exercises government by means of his virtue may be compared to the north polar star, which keeps its place and all the stars turn towards it." Confucius

"He who exercises government by means of his virtue may be compared to the north polar star, which keeps its place and all the stars turn towards it." Confucius

Who Owns Your Bank

Some time ago, someone posted a link that shows which corporations own which banks. Now, I'm scrambling to find it, but neither a Daily Paul search nor a regular Google search brings it up (in fact, via Google, there are no results at all for "Daily Paul" "who owns your bank").

Anyone still have this link? Please post? Honestly, I think that would deserve its own thread, so people can easily find such an important link, rather than letting it get buried in the comments somewhere.

Thanks.