***A bit of proof that the race isn't over! Look at the "Hard Total" at www.thegreenpapers.com!***
I went back onto the most reliable political website about the delegate process, www.thegreenpapers.com, and I found these numbers and this info about the "hard total" delegates:
McCain 385
Huckabee 60
Romney 94
Paul 5
Uncommitted 95
Available 1,741
Here's what the definition of "Hard Total" means:
HARD TOTAL - formal allocation
The "hard count" consists of a count of the National Convention delegates as they are formally allocated to presidential contenders (or to the ranks of the "Uncommitted") under the rules governing the selection of such delegates in each state or other jurisdiction (D.C., Puerto Rico or other U.S. territories). No delegates are placed in the "hard count" column unless and until they have been so allocated. The "soft count", meanwhile, is an estimation- based on the best possible information available to "The Green Papers" at the time- as to which presidential contenders delegates (even those who are nominally "Unpledged") will support on the floor of the Convention.
The "hard count" is cumulative: that is, as each bloc of delegates from a given state or other jurisdiction is formally allocated to presidential contenders or "Uncommitted", that allocation is- in effect- "frozen" in time; the number of delegates allocated to each presidential contender or "Uncommitted" will, therefore, continue to add up as the pre-Convention process goes along. Even if a presidential contender already formally/officially allocated delegates should subsequently drop out of the nomination race and release his delegates (in which case, his delegates could conceivably support another contender or become "Uncommitted") or a formally "Uncommitted" delegate indicate his/her preference for a given presidential contender prior to the National Conventions, any delegates already allocated to a given contender (or formally "Uncommitted") will continue to be counted as allocated to that contender (or "Uncommitted") in the "hard count" of "The Green Papers"- for a change in the support for a presidential contender by (or the "uncommitted" status of) a delegate, once that delegate is formally allocated by the delegate selection procedures of a state party, does not become official until that delegate first casts a vote during the Roll Call of the States for the party's Presidential Nomination on the floor of that party's National Convention.
The Green Papers "hard count", when posted, is (in order of preference) either (a) a state's or party's official breakdown of its delegation, (b) our initial soft count, or (c) the best sources' breakdown of the delegation (even where it differs from our soft count). We will choose (c) when our initial soft count is based upon incomplete information.
And I think that's why Dr. SGP was so positive all along. This thing ain't over yet guys!





















Onevoiceofreason, If these
Onevoiceofreason, If these numbers aren't real, then how come the PLEDGED delegates (that have been allocated already) are the same as the HARD COUNT delegates?
Well if
What I experienced this morning is any indicator. Ron Paul has alot of delegates in KY.
There were 24 spots open in our county to go to the district convention and all but 6 were filled with Ron Paul Supporters.
We can all say what needs to be done, but who here lead by example today?
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Sorry
McCain has the delegates...these numbers are very deceiving
McCain does not have the delegates in the bag,
...regardless of how many he thinks he might have need etc....thats what makes it exciting.
gigione
yes
Yes he does..and it's not McCain just making the claim.....It's hundreds of news sources and websites....
LOL!!
We shall see, its like a crap shoot. MSM goes with familiar, not with true facts...
gigione
Nope
They can't all be lying..some of these sites make their living posting politics, they would not risk their reputation ....and again there are hundreds of them and they are not all MSM by any means
Well they would if it started with one
"reputable" source, then you have the cascade effect...everyone(sites/news) falls in sync thinking its the truth...basically creating THEIR reality and trying to make it yours and mine too. Thats why its important to keep an open mind and question/study everything.
gigione
shut up you idiot... you
shut up you idiot... you have no clue of which you speak! to my fellow Ron Paul supporters this guy here onevoiceofreason is betterhalf aka JLH.. he is not a Ron Paul supporter and has been dogging every post.. this is his 3rd new name on daily paul........... and actually this is correct.. the delegates are not MCCANDYASSES AT ALL ... being a county, congressional and state delegate here in Colorado Can assure you this is correct.. as for this ass clown onevoiceofidiocy... show mw your credentials to disprove this post.. you don't have any!
“A prudent man foreseeth the evil, and hideth himself: but the simple pass on, and are punished.” (Prov. 22:3; 27:12 KJV)
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Why...
are these numbers "very deceiving"?
I
I was being polite..They are inaccurate
And now you're...
evasive. State your proof, establish the veracity of your claim... I mean, what with "reason," and all, being at stake...
To the other moles
Fortune Favors the Bold
this guys is giving you a bad name
why do you still pay him?
I know funds are short...
Fortune Favors the Bold
You do sound like a polite person.
But its not over, until after the convention.
gigione
Agreed
Ron Paul needs to go third party if he wants to be president. That's pretty obvious.
Yes
And that radio show everyone is talking about would draw 15 million people would be an opportunity to announce it
lol onevoiceofTREASON!
lol onevoiceofTREASON!
“A prudent man foreseeth the evil, and hideth himself: but the simple pass on, and are punished.” (Prov. 22:3; 27:12 KJV)
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Become A Delegate !
Does everyone see how important this is ?
I hope so
GOD BLESS US ALL
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absolutely keep this bumped along with SGP's. this is very important to know. these numbers are important. it shows us in another way exactly how we can win this...
Ron Paul is My President
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Paul Delegates Need to Show McCain Delegates,
who the real McCain is. Here is a article by Devvy Kidd, that has a Flyer to Print, and give out to people. It also, gives coruption of Bush, Congress, Billary, and Obamaniac, to help wake the sheeple.
http://www.newswithviews.com/Devvy/kidd348.htm
Paul Delegates Need to Show McCain Delegates,
who the real McCain is. Here is a article by Devvy Kidd, that has a Flyer to Print, and give out to people. It also, gives coruption of Bush, Congress, Billary, and Obamaniac, to help wake the sheeple.
http://www.newswithviews.com/Devvy/kidd348.htm
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Thank you, thank you, thank you!
We all need to think this way. I know that it seems so discouraging at times, but I happen to believe that the Lord moves in mysterious ways.
I only hope that deep down Dr. Paul knows we are still behind him. I hope too, that he will be ready when his country needs him as we surely will. The last time I saw him speak he seemed so resigned to a defeat. I hope and believe he is only putting on a front.
It Takes a High Tide
To destroy the walls. We have the swell. Keep being a better you every day!
"Walls are stronger than the men that defend them."
Khan
"Walls are stronger than the men that defend them."
Ghengis Khan
Keep this post up
I hope we can keep this up with the "if you are not going to help me keep the most important post" thread
These totals show that we can continue to campaign and win. WE are the most important asset, it is up to all of us to do the best we can to continue showing support and not waivering.
Alex Plewniak
Bonita, CA
Great post
I don't understand everything you wrote. However, this race aint over and we should all keep doing our best and work hard. I'm a delegate in Texas, everyone needs to do whatever they could to get Ron Paul as many delegates as possible. Every bit counts. In the end we will shock the world and save our country. Ron Paul 2008
heres a link ....that shows it very clearly....
http://www.thegreenpapers.com/P08/R.phtml
enjoy!!!
thats why we must keep shaping public opinion and campaigning hard!!!!
Great info
thank you
We can all say what needs to be done, but who here lead by example today?
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