Paranoid or Prepared? Survival in our future?
I am terrified about our future as a country...Even if we succeed in getting RP nominated through our delegate system, I am afraid that the general election will still be thrown to the Democrats, just as it was given to Bush in 2000 and 2004...we will have no control then with the exception of waking up many more...
Yet, at the moment I am questioning my rational thinking...I was not one to buy into Y2K or any disaster scenario...So it bothers me when I have become very obsessed with our future and frightened of the possibilities and the fears that are keeping me awake at night.
Many things have crossed my mind and the most immediate would be to stock up on food and water, as well as first aid and medication, because I know hyperinflation is happening and will continue unabated...in this scenario there will be so many out there that will not have the basics and become desperate enough to hurt someone in order to get them...But I am not really worried about my neighbors...
My greatest fear are gangs...
These may be loose outfits or seriously armed, organized mini-armies that will swoop down on communities like hornets to drain them of valuables and resources...They will kill, take slaves etc. and destroy all habitable dwellings before moving on to the next area. Food, gas etc...will be their motivation, but the horrors of the holocaust will be nothing compared to the ruthlessness of these marauders..they will kill for pleasure and sport.
Think MS-13 on a grand scale.
The government would not intervene until it chose to in order to cull our numbers to a managable level..
Perhaps I have been reading too many survival and futuristic blogs pointing to a possible future and scaring myself..
But this is my nightmare and I haven't been able to shake it....If my husband found out I was thinking like this he would leave me..i keep thinking of ways and places to hide resources and our family and it constantly keeps going through my mind..
Am I going crazy? Help!
Kat, You're not crazy and you're not paranoid.
You're just concerned and you are taking precautions. This is a wise thing to do. I too have a gut feeling that our nation is going to experience a great deal of financial stress very soon. I'm not sure how bad things will get, but I believe that things will get worse than most people think. It pays to be prepared. I have been going through many of the thoughts you describe. My wife thinks I'm a little too worried, but she's beginning to come around. I think basic things such as food, water, medicine, fuel, firearms, etc are very important. I really feel sorry for those who have no clue what's about to happen. These people are going to be caught completely off guard. They will be begging people like us for help. And maybe, if we're smart, we will be able to help them out. This whole thing has also had me thinking more about God and my personal Christian faith. It's starting to bring me closer to God and make me realize how important it is.
I'm driving my husband crazy
He says it is going to be like what happen in Japan's economy there was no violence just a depressed economy. The more he spoke it calmed me down study the Japanese recession and maybe it will help you. My husband said don't listen to the fear mongers or the government what will happen will be something in between the two. I grew up with mom telling me things like waste not want not. Penney saved is a penny earned, etc. These little saying packed a lot of wisdom. This is going to make us stronger, wiser and tougher. We are lucky we have the Daily Paul to learn, laugh and lean on on another. Peace
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about the violence.. your
about the violence.. your husband has to understand that japans society is much different from ours.. they had little welfare where we have lots.. people nare used to government hand outs when those arn't there they will expect you and I to hand out.. thats where violence comes in.. don't bet on this thing being like japan!
“A prudent man foreseeth the evil, and hideth himself: but the simple pass on, and are punished.” (Prov. 22:3; 27:12 KJV)
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Hey quiltingsando!
Thanks, for the input from everyone here on DP...
My husband is the typical New York Manhattan Italian...from a large 1960's Mafia family etc..money knowledgable in an eerie kinda way...and he also has the ability to spot BS from a hundred yards away..he is very familiar with the criminal mind, rare coins, guns and gold...
I had a talk with him this afternoon about my weird apocolyptic fears...gangs taking over, starvation, my fears that hyperinflation will occur...That in some places the trucking industry would grind to a halt due to gas shortages...That hijacking trucks would happen enmasse,
and the dollar becoming worthless.
I did this only after so many people on DP encouraged me to do so...and I'm happy that I did..
He did tell me that this is not the first time there has been a rush on gold...He told me not to get caught up in that...He said" Watch what I'm telling you...It's going to drop in a big way...All these people buying it up at this price are gonna lose in the end. " He went on to explain the exchange rates and the middleman gold pimps.."Don't worry about it."
He had many friends who lost out "way back" when gold soared and then plummeted when demand dried up....Has he been wrong before?...ummm....not about these kinda things...which made me feel somewhat at ease....he said diamonds were a better bet.
Secondly, he explained gang mentality, people in smaller areas don't have to worry about this...Urban areas are another story...But he also gave the advice "not to trust anybody." ..and..."don't let anybody know what you have."..."Don't give information."
This was taken to me to stock up, but don't form close alliances with anyone who may know what we have stored...These "friends" may be enemies ay some point if desperate circumstances ensue..
Will banks fail?...Abso-fucking-lutley...(but we already know this, right)
He talked all afternoon...some was very thought provoking, but in the end he REALLY did understand what was about to happen...Even though I took him not to have a clue..
What a relief....
As long as we have guns,
the gang situation won't reach a worst-case scenario. The worst case is most likely to come from a government army as it did in Holocaust times.
My ex-sister-in-law had one set of grandparents killed by the German army and the other set killed by the Russian army. Gangs just aren't that thorough or motivated. They'll take your stuff if they can, but killing you isn't a primary goal.
Maybe I'm wrong. The factions in Rwanda are hard to understand. At what point does a gang become an organized army?
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your a very smart women kat
your gonna be just fine. if you plan to stay with your hubby and have lots and lots of ron paul baby's your gonna need to turn him on 2 the r3volution.you need to put together a survival plan with your husband and talk to him about your concerns.
start with a video like this.
Ron Paul: A New Hope
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FG2PUZoukfA
then you could jump right into it with something like this IF HE'S READY?
RON PAUL on National sovereignty, North America Union, CFR, Trilateral Commission, Bilderberg & TRANS-TEXAS CORRIDOR:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tzjSX2kO07Y
be careful with this one.
Zeitgeist – NORTH AMERICAN UNION & RFID/VCHIP
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vuBo4E77ZXo
this last one deals with government paid gangs and lot's of good reading!
THE NORTH AMERICAN NIGHTMARE:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=48GLSjiVyHc
much thanks to "totalreality2012" for that one, well done sir!
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“We have allowed our nation to be over taxed and over regulated and overrun by bureaucrats, the founders would be ashamed of us for what we're putting up with.” Ron Paul
show him
.gov websites backing up what you are saying.
there are ones about the martial law executive order, the http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c110:S.1959: Violent Radicalization and Homegrown Terrorism Prevention Act of 2007 (Introduced in Senate)
show him that this stuff is real
great way to get a divorce
Turn him on to Zeitgeist? Are you kidding me?!? Print out some reliable stuff and discuss with him. Google Paul Craig Roberts. Because of his resume', he should see him as a good, reliable source.
slow down there billyboy
it's not the whole movie just a short clip.
do you dispute the content?
i suggest you take 10 minutes and actually watch the clip before you comment.
and what part of "be careful with this one" don't you get. if he responds favorably to "RON PAUL on National sovereignty, North America Union, CFR, Trilateral Commission, Bilderberg & TRANS-TEXAS CORRIDOR:" then i'd say he's ready for the Zeitgeist clip ! are you?
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"RON PAUL SUPPORTER SINCE 1997"
“We have allowed our nation to be over taxed and over regulated and overrun by bureaucrats, the founders would be ashamed of us for what we're putting up with.” Ron Paul
Maybe you didn't read her post
she is thinking her husband will think she's crazy thinking of oncoming financial disasters. Z talks of this, but also of far reaching conclusions. Not quite the way to ease the husband in to her thought of mind by asking to watch a hard-core propaganda film. An yes, I do believe in much of it, but the conclusions are far reaching and require further investigation, or at best speculative. The movies do raise anxiety, which she needs to get away from....
far reaching conclusions
after reading her last post i think she's felling better now that she talked to her husband. she'll be ok.
"far reaching conclusions" of the clip i posted,like the microchip CONTROL GRID?
further investigation 4 you billyboy
NBC: THE TODAY SHOW VCHIP
http://myspacetv.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&vi...
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National Geographic Channel: Implantable Microchip
http://myspacetv.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&vi...
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CBS NEWS: Implantable Microchip
http://myspacetv.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&vi...
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GETTING CHIPPED
http://myspacetv.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&vi...
AND LASTLY ALEX JONES! MARK OF THE BEAST
http://myspacetv.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&vi...
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"RON PAUL SUPPORTER SINCE 1997"
“We have allowed our nation to be over taxed and over regulated and overrun by bureaucrats, the founders would be ashamed of us for what we're putting up with.” Ron Paul
Been there
Hope nobody hears what I'm telling myself!! I obsessed through the primaries, then I turned down the computer-to-brain input. Stay off the videos and stay on more grounded sites like www.reuters.com or www.bloomberg.com. They're a bit more realistic than the MSM in that they'll give you the facts, but aren't meant to leave you in a high state of anxiety like some of these videos and stories that have a bit of a slant to them. Remember that our grandparents (or great grandparents) went through both the Great Depression and WWII. Can you imagine the desperation these people faced? Yet, through it all, they are considered the "Greatest Generation". Hang tough. Your family needs you grounded.
My Grandfather...
went through the depression and quit school at seven years old to shine shoes to feed his brothers and sisters....Many older folks who lived through WWII washed their aluminum foil and reused it as an old habit...
I'm not afriad of dying, personally...not one bit...
My fear is for my two daughters...7 and 16 years old...What they may have to go through is what keeps me up at nights.
i'm with you kat... my
i'm with you kat... my grandfather was in his early teens when he went threw the depression.. thank God for him and what he tought me.. I have a 19 yearold son. a 14 yearold daughter and a 11 yearold daughter.. its my fear for them on what they will go threw and see here in the near future! life is gonna change for everyone! just prepare best you can and leave the rest God Almighty!!!
“A prudent man foreseeth the evil, and hideth himself: but the simple pass on, and are punished.” (Prov. 22:3; 27:12 KJV)
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Hmmm....
I just washed out a ziploc baggie. It was out of an abundance of frugality - not to save the Earth. It's history repeating itself. Families have to shave every penny these days.
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Going crazy? You sound a lot
Going crazy? You sound a lot more realistic to me than a lot of posters here.
The GOP establishment will never permit Ron Paul to be the nominee. If by some miracle the "brokered convention delegate strategy" paid off and Paul did become the nominee, he'd still lose because the mainstream media would tear him apart, the talk radio right would undermine him, and if necessary, voter fraud would be used against him.
But none of that will be necessary, because he isn't going to get the GOP nomination. If there is a brokered revolt at the convention, some other statist insider like Romney will win instead. Wishing otherwise doesn't get it done.
Yes, I think considering survivalism is an excellent idea at this stage--the economy is almost in free fall and will be crashing.
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When I stated that exact thing they called me a troll...reality can be harsh for some folks
heres some reality for you
heres some reality for you onevoiceof TREASON....gold up 29.20 to 1031.70.... but were not in a recession/ depression ... not at all!
“A prudent man foreseeth the evil, and hideth himself: but the simple pass on, and are punished.” (Prov. 22:3; 27:12 KJV)
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Oh, yeah--"sunshine
Oh, yeah--"sunshine patriot", too...for showing some common sense and acknowledging the obvious!
I'll be voting for Dr. Paul in November--it's unfortunate that it will have to be a write-in.
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Kevin are you a delegate??
Kevin are you a delegate??
“A prudent man foreseeth the evil, and hideth himself: but the simple pass on, and are punished.” (Prov. 22:3; 27:12 KJV)
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i'm with you if he can't be
i'm with you if he can't be the nominee i will write him in... but don't count that man out yet...
“A prudent man foreseeth the evil, and hideth himself: but the simple pass on, and are punished.” (Prov. 22:3; 27:12 KJV)
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I used to fear death.
I now think that there is a spiritual core that inhabits our bodies and survives and interacts with others after the body dies. So I am not driven by fear so much as curiosity about surviving in really, really bad times.
It has been fun to prepare, to imagine various contingencies and how to cope with them. You don't have to do this on your own either. You can meet up with other survival preparers in your area, exchanging ideas and resources. As you prepare you can help educate others as well. I plan to submit an opinion piece to the local free newspaper and volunteer to help people buy bulk storage food items, especially in my own neighborhood.
New Hampshire and Ecuador
I no longer fear death either.
After my mom died I read dozens of books on life after death: the scientific proof of life after death, as well as scientific proof of reincarnation. The use of children's memories has proven it without a doubt. Dr. Ian Stevenson spent 40 years proving it using scientific methods and was even published in JAMA. (Read OLD SOULS, a book you won't be able to put down!)
There can be no doubt. It is in every major religion, as well as Native American ones (because CHILDREN so often RECALL DETAILS of prior lives that are VERIFIABLE) and used to be in Christianity til some ruler got mad that people dropped out of the church thinking, "I'll get religion in my next life." When he found he could no longer control the masses with religion, he ordered that the references to reincarnation be taken out of the BIble, but he missed a few....
This life is just a game to entertain ourselves through snippets of eternity,
much like a game of paint ball or virtual reality.
There's memory in our cells from previous generations
not previous lives. Don't buy it. We have memories from our parents, grandparents, etc., etc. residing in our cells. That is why we can recall past lives so vividly. Nothing new with that. The Bible does not have references to reincarnation. If it did, the sacrifice of Jesus Christ would have been pointless. You can not earn your way to heaven, the gift can only be offered to you and you have one chance of receiving it, here and now.
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The lip of truth shall be established forever: but a lying tongue is but for a moment...Lying lips are abomination to the LORD: but they that deal truly are His delight. Prov 12:19,22
No, the memories of past lives are not in the cells
alone. There have been THOUSANDS (over 4000 by Dr. Stevens alone) of documented cases in which kids (always 7 or under, since at age 7 the past life memories fade) have recalled SPECIFIC DETAILS of something that happened in a previous life. Then the parents take them to the village and get the details verified! In one case, a kid even went up to someone (unknown to him in this life) and said "HEY! You owe me some money!" No one else knew the money loan between them. He admitted it was true.
There is an EMOTIONAL IDENTIFICATION that these kids have with the persona of their former lives. AND they still feel intimately connected with their previous family. In many cases THEY BEG to be taken back to their former families! Why, in one case a little girl even approached her former husband and grew angry with him because as she said, "You PROMISED me you wouldn't remarry!" The scope of this is too much for this post---go to read OLD SOULS by Tom Schroder.
http://www.amazon.com/Old-Souls-Compelling-Evidence-Children...
As for the sacrifice of Jesus, I won't get into that now, but there is great controversy about that too---the concept of a blood sacrifice is pagan in origin and one ruler around 300 AD wanted to integrate the 2 religions. Goes back to the council of Nicea. I don't mean to offend anyone but that is what I have discovered...The universe and God is so much more compassionate than we have ever imagined! No need for blood sacrifices!
If your son committed an error or "sin" would YOU cast him into hell for eternity? I doubt such a thing could ever occur to you. God has INFINITELY more love than we do, yet we underestimate His love. We think He would be so judgmental and unloving as to put into an eternal hell.
holonomic brain theory
Fortune Favors the Bold
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holonomic_brain
I am a Bohmian myself.
Fortune Favors the Bold
Did you read "The Holographic Universe"?
Great book! Sure explains alot....This is definitely the truth. It also explains how movies and things like that work, as I understand.
U.N. Warns Food Shortage Will Continue Up To 2010
March 8, 2008 8:42 a.m. EST London, U.K. (AHN) - United Nations World Food Program (WFP) head Josette Sheeran warns that the agency is already taking precautionary measures by rationing food aid to address worldwide food shortage and the increasing commodity prices which is expected to continue up to 2010.
http://www.allheadlinenews.com/articles/7010270408
Wheat Supplies, Already Tight, May Be Hurt by Global Drought
March 4 (Bloomberg) -- Global wheat production, after failing to keep pace with demand the past three years, may be hurt again in 2008 by dry weather in the U.S., Canada and Russia, the three largest exporters of the grain.
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601081&sid=aBXqreFo...
Rice supplies set to fall to 25-year low
World supplies of rice are reaching dangerously low levels after stores of South Asia's staple food fell to a 25-year low and governments battled to stabilise domestic markets.
The US Department of Agriculture is predicting global rice stocks will fall to about 70 million tons this year, the lowest level since the early 1980s and half the level in 2000.
http://business.timesonline.co.uk/tol/business/markets/india...