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Christians: should we employ imprecatory prayer regarding John McCain?

I have been wrestling with this issue for several weeks now. Here is an interesting website on this subject.


I hold no personal animosity against Senator McCain, and I certainly do not wish him any physical harm, but what if we were to pray for his demise as the GOP candidate? I do not mean for God to necessarily "take him out", per se, but, hey, what if He did render the Senator unable to discharge the duties of the presidency, say, right before the convention? Would that pave the way for Ron Paul to become the nominee?

Is it right for us as Christians to pray in such a fashion? Any thoughts?

*Note: I am editing this post by adding the following*:

From the link above:

"Imprecatory prayer is a last resort appeal to God for justice."

I also changed the title from "Christians: should we employ imprecatory prayer against John McCain?" to "Christians: should we employ imprecatory prayer regarding John McCain?"

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Pray instead for Americans

Pray instead for Americans to become wiser and less obeisant to authority.

Pray for Americans to become smart enough to distrust computer voting.

Pray for Americans to become as interested in constitutional government as they are in bleached blonde pop singers, junk food, and sports.

Pray for Americans to stop dishonoring the birthright the Founders gave them.

Support the Constitution of the United States

Support the Constitution of the United States


Has prayer worked so far?
It dosn`t look like it.
Everyone should go to youtube and watch the video."Why Ron Paul Lost in Fla".You`l see why GOD had nothing to do with it.
Walk around your own neighborhood(s) and ask people why they are voting for who ever they are voting for,and see if you get the same response i.e.,(ignorant answers) from voters in your town.
One must be very careful what they say in their prayer(s).Just ask "John McCain"."John McCain" still has one BIG price to pay for the things he told God he would do if God got him home safely from RVN....John Lied!
Not only did "John McCain" lie to God,he also lied to the millions of Americans that prayed for his safe and expedient release from captivity.
One might think God would have set John McCain straight by now,but not!..........What is God waiting for?
America abandoned God....God abandoned America.
It`s a simple as that.
I think we should ask some Arib if it is ok for we Americans to pray to our God,Maybe they will allow us.

Fed Up Vet

We should all pray FOR John McCain

Now do not get me wrong, I cannot stand John McCain or anything he stands for. I am 100% for freedom and liberty, however, I believe God can do anything. I believe if we all prayed for McCain he could see the light and change his ways, or maybe God could steer him in that right direction. I do not want him to die physically, and I for sure do not want him as president ( I want Ron Paul), but he is a fellow human.
I want you all to know that I pray regularly for Ron Paul, so that God may help us all in our cause, and he can become president of these united States. I am a strong supporter of Ron Paul, and will NEVER support McCain, Obama, or Hillary. However, I don't want to pray for someone to die, or get sick. God will help us if we ask, we just have to ask the right things if you know what I mean? Anyway, let us all love our brothers and sisters, you can hate what they do (so pray for a change, and Gods help), but do not hate the person, for that is what they are...people, we all sin, and we all make mistakes (some more than others). Anyway, I hope you don't think I am a troll, or whatever you call em, I am 100% for liberty, the restoration of the Constitution of these united States, and Ron Paul, I just wanted to throw my opinion in here.

We all can use some prayer sometimes, so why destroy a fellow person, when you can seek to God for all your problems. Pray for your enemies so they may see the light and change their wicked ways.

Happy Easter everyone!!!!

"Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools" (Romans 1:22)

Pray fo John?????

Try to imagine the prayers John prayed to God while John was being held captive.
John lied to God.When John was freed,he changed his mind,all of the promises John made were forgotten....God knows this better the anyone,except John.
America abandoned God......God abandoned America...simple as that!

Fed Up Vet


Cap Him!!!

I think we should....

put a VOOOOOOOOOOODOOOO hex on him!

He could just go away

Yeah - I am praying and then there is one and that one to be Ron Paul.

As for the post from onevoiceofreason - I guess that person is ignorant of our founding fathers and I like the comment from the person who posted a similar comment regarding onevoiceofreason.

Go Ron Paul. I've had people in my family ask who I'm voting for and I said - I am voting for Ron Paul. As a Christian, I have convictions. I can not in good conscience vote for any other candidate. Some say he can't win - well I have faith. If people voted for the person best suited, in this election it is Ron Paul, not who they think can win we would have a different country now.

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the republicans would then turn to Romney

Forget McCain

McCain is not a supporter of the Bill of rights


By Pastor Chuck Baldwin

February 22, 2008


The last thing we need is another liberal neocon in the White House. If the Presidency of George W. Bush proved anything, it proved the hazard of electing phony Republican conservatives. At least one is able to clearly see a liberal for what he or she is when they have a "D" behind their name. But put an "R" behind the name and suddenly their liberal, Big-Government, anti-freedom agenda is barely recognized, which makes a liberal Republican much more dangerous than a liberal Democrat.

Let me say it straight out: a John McCain Presidency would be far worse than a Barack Obama Presidency. With a Democrat in the White House, conservatives and Christians suddenly find their principles and are able to offer resistance. Put a Republican in the Oval Office, however, and those same people become blind, deaf, and dumb to most any principle they profess.

Nowhere is McCain's chicanery and duplicity more jeopardous than in the area of the right to keep and bear arms. On issues relating to the Second Amendment, John McCain is a disaster! For example, the highly respected Gun Owners of America (GOA) rates McCain with a grade of F-. McCain's failing grade is well deserved.

John McCain sponsored an amendment to S. 1805 on March 2, 2004 that would outlaw the private sale of firearms at gun shows. According to GOA, the provision would effectively eliminate gun shows, because every member of an organization sponsoring a gun show could be imprisoned if the organization fails to notify each and every "person who attends the special firearms event of the requirements [under the Brady Law]."

John McCain also sponsored an Incumbent Protection provision to the so-called "Campaign Finance Reform" bill, which severely curtails the ability of outside groups (such as GOA) to communicate the actions of incumbent politicians to members and supporters prior to an election.

The GOA report of the 106th Congress reveals that out of 15 votes relating to the right to keep and bear arms, Senator John McCain voted favorably only 4 times. Put that into a percentage and McCain's pro-Second Amendment voting record is a pathetic 27%.

In addition, GOA warns that John McCain supported legislation that would force federal agents to increase efforts in arresting and convicting honest gun owners who may inadvertently violate one of the many federal anti-gun laws, which punish mere technicalities, such as gun possession.

For example, if John McCain's proposed legislation were to become law, a gun owner who travels with a gun through a school zone or who uses one of the family handguns to go target shooting with a 15-year old could be sent to prison. And a person who uses a gun for self-defense could be sent to prison for a mandatory minimum of five years.

But there is so much more to the McCain madness.

Former California State Senator H.L. "Bill" Richardson wrote this about John McCain, "He's [McCain's] proven his dislike for conservatives and would gut us at every opportunity.

"Why do I say that? Because of three decades of experience as a Republican California Senator and a fifty year activist in the conservative movement. I have first hand, in-their-face experience with elitist RINO's (Republican in Name Only) office holders. They are biblically ignorant, power hungry, status seeking egotists who have no difficulty aiding their liberal Democrat colleagues whenever their arms are politely twisted. The one thing they have in common with liberal Democrats is their dislike for all conservatives, especially those who are Bible-believing. McCain, as president, would stifle the voices of elected Republican leaders and try to legislate the conservative movement out of existence."

Senator Richardson went on to say that he would in no way vote for John McCain, if indeed McCain is the Republican nominee (which he obviously will be).

I wonder how many gun owners and other professing pro-freedom Americans have already fallen victim to McCain's phony conservative campaign? Do they not realize that they are giving a rope to the hangman? And that they--conservatives and gun owners--are the ones who McCain will send to the gallows? What is wrong with the American people these days? Have they not been betrayed enough by these phony conservative Republicans?

For example, President George W. Bush recently nominated Michael Sullivan to be Director of the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives. Sullivan is one of the nation's most rabid anti-gunners. GOA's Larry Pratt describes Sullivan as being "as anti-gun as Ted Kennedy." Honest gun owners, lawful firearms dealers, and law-abiding gun show operators could have no worse enemy within the federal government than Michael Sullivan. We could expect no worse from Hillary Clinton. And a John McCain Presidency would doubtless give us more of the same.

Regarding the Second Amendment, the American people have no better friend than Ron Paul. He has a 20-year proven track record of fidelity to the right to keep and bear arms. The GOA rates Congressman Paul with a grade of A+. According to GOA Executive Director Larry Pratt, Ron Paul has been a leader in the fight to defend and restore the Second Amendment. He has sponsored legislation to repeal the following: the Brady law; the requirement to lock up your guns; the law permitting the U.S. to be part of the U.N (which, among other attacks on American freedoms, seeks to ban privately transferred firearms); participation in UNESCO; federal prohibitions on any pilot wishing to carry a handgun to and in his cockpit; and the so-called "assault weapons" ban (prior to its sunsetting in 2004).

Ron Paul has also sponsored legislation requiring states to treat the concealed carry permit of one state the same as they do that state's driver's license. Dr. Paul also opposes a national ID card, which would be a tool of government to identify gun ownership.

Gun owners (along with conservatives and Christians of all sorts) should be ashamed of themselves for allowing an angry, gun-grabbing liberal such as John McCain to become the presumptive Republican Presidential nominee, while rejecting the candidacy of one of America's most principled pro-life, pro-Second Amendment, pro-Constitution, and pro-freedom legislators of this generation: Congressman Ron Paul.

I say again, the last thing we need is another liberal neocon in the White House. John McCain may have an "R" behind his name, but he is just another establishment liberal: one America cannot afford.

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David Prayed In This Manner

To pray in this manner is very Biblical contrary to what some say. To pray for the destruction of God's enemies so that they ( the enemy ) does not add iniquity upon iniquity and making his eternal punishment the worse. This is being merciful to those who hate God and who will not repent nor turn to Him. Their ( the enemy of God ) whole purpose is thus to be against the Most High and those who love the Lord will pray for God to interceed and put an end to them in His own way. We never dictate to God but we always pray for his deliverance in all matters and this matter is no different!
Read Psalms 35, 55, 69, 94 just to name a few.
David was a man after God's own heart and to pray likewise is wiselike!
So long Mac!

" In Thee O Lord do I put my trust " ~ Psalm 31:1~

Let's all just start small,

Let's all just start small, and first pray for the vaporization of king troll and disinfo agent OneVoiceOfReason. Then we can move on to the bigger fish.


don't be nasty

Asshole, if a bus ran you

Asshole, if a bus ran you over in front of me I would not shed a single tear, and would have a lot better time on this blog, too --- a win-win for all concerned.


i said don't be nasty..and thanks for the bump

Go away and I'll stop being

Go away and I'll stop being nasty, bitch!


ask me if i care

BetsyRoss is correct, you DO

BetsyRoss is correct, you DO sound just like a bitter divorced bitch! Well, it's not surprising that anyone would dump a douchebag such as yourself.

DeSaulinator XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX her 4 me! she is wicked


"The Universe may not always play fair but at least it's got a sense of humor" ;) - Michael Patrick King


I'm a grandfather and been married 37 years...and your paranoia continues

Then I am sorry for your offspring....but I still do not believe



"The Universe may not always play fair but at least it's got a sense of humor" ;) - Michael Patrick King


Life is a blast 3 grown kids and 6 grand kids all headed for two weeks at WDW this summer...what the hell it's only money and the economy is great so why not spend it

You mean you are a

You mean you are a grandfather NOW, after the sex change, right?

Hey, I have a thing for she-males, baby ---- maybe we can get together sometime and have some fun! I just love you older bottoms!



I believe in praying for peace and prosperity. These are our rights anyway. Pray for an end to conflict, for freedom. Pray for a return to liberty and pray for an end to torture and war. God (as you understand him) will hear and help the candidate who can manage these things.....
Peace to you all.


prayer is like talking to the wind

Why just McCain?

---Why not also Bush, Obama, Hillary, Cheney---the list goes on and on. You think McCain is the only one that is going to cause problems? Why didn't you think of this when Bush and co where destroying our liberties for the last seven years? Kinda late now to start asking God to take out people, don't you think? You better make a bigger prayer hit list, because now it's a choice between the electric chair, the gas chamber, the hangman's noose, the firing squad, and a death of a thousand cuts whether we get McCain or anyone else save Ron Paul--and even if he made it we still have a corrupt body of politicians in place. The whole system is corrupted, and praying for divine providence to take away one individual is as deluded as thinking that by taking out Hussein or Osama Bin Laden will cause democracy and peace to break out throughout the world.

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---Lily Tomlin

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"No matter how cynical you get, it's impossible to keep up!
---Lily Tomlin

I just pray for Ron

and only hope for McCain's demise (as the GOP candidate or other).

Mathew 5:9 Blessed are the peacemakers: for they shall be called the children of God.

I'm gonna stick with the golden rule.."Do unto others...

as you would have them do unto you" and "Love your enemies.."

If we reap what we sow, do we REALLY want any part of praying bad things over others? I don't foresee a stamp of approval from above on that one.

We can pray for good things for RP and protection from our enemies and let God decide how he will take care of it.

(We can pray for our enemies, too. Seems like McCain's got some health issues, mental and physical, that could use some prayer.)


very good rule