WE CAN WIN: Here's How to Unbind your National Delegates at State

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There's been a lot of confusion and controversy over the delegates. None of it matters except finding out how to unbind your National Delegates in your State.

This is for Colorado but may be related to your state. Please check with your State GOP to be sure:

1. Introduce a Resolution by contacting your State GOP. Since the caucuses and County Assemblies have already passed in CO, that's the process to still get Resolutions introduced.

2. Our State GOP Chairman will appoint a Resolutions Committee and review the Resolutions (whatever that means). I'm trying to find out the exact process.

3. Ask an EXPERT, someone with previous RNC experience or State Central Committee experience, that if you introduce a resolution and get 2/3rds of the State Delegates to vote to unbind the National Delegates -- is that possible?

4. Find the best Resolution text for unbinding delegates and spread it via the forums and Meetups.

Remember, originally about 25% of the National Delegates were unbound, including here in Colorado. Now with Huckabee and Romney dropping out/suspending it is about 45% unbound.

NOTE: Regarding Steve Parent and I, if you look through the comments and posts on DailyPaul you will see that SGP first posted on my delegate thread that I was wrong. I went to his where it said 75% of the delegates were non-bound.

I asked him politely to tell me where it said that. He said he got the numbers from the GOP file linked. I told him that he quoted entire sentences from the RealClearPolitics article which he denied.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/horseraceblog/2008/01/looki...

Then he made statements like bound delegates become non-bound on the second vote. And so forth. I love the spirit of SGP's message and support what he is doing but I do not support spamming inaccurate information on forums repeatedly and then having it distributed to over 10,000+ people (probably) via the Meetups.

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Ok here is the deal Ryan

Ok here is the deal Ryan email me your phone number at newspaper4paul@hotmail.com and i will call you

Dr. Steve Parent

I messaged you two months

I messaged you two months ago and asked for you to call me on my RP2008 phone. You declined. I wanted to talk to you then to work out our differences but because you kept attacking people, kept spamming inaccurate information and because you lied to me several times I thought you were a waste of time.

I stopped using DailyPaul because of people like you and the no moderation. It was distracting me from effective work. Nevertheless, I will e-mail you and we can talk.

If Steve and Ryan work

If Steve and Ryan work together, they'd be the dynamic duo! Leave your differences apart, work together on your similarities. Both of you have great ideas, just a different way to meet yor strategies. We must have the REVOLUTION together now, tomorrow and forever! We can't allow division if we all agree on the message of freedom.

I'm all for that. I just

I'm all for that. I just want the REVOLUTION to be successful.

will unbinding delegates

will unbinding delegates even matter? Remember how those delegates were chosen? We voted for them, so the delegates that were for a certain candidate had that candidate's name next to theirs, so the person who won the state also had delegates get voted for who were supporting that candidate, so why would they change their minds if you unbind them?

For Colorado, a lot of

For Colorado, a lot of people came just to vote in the meaningless Presidential Preference Poll. No one wanted to give up their time to attend the conventions as a delegate. It seems like this happened a lot of other places. Plus just regular GOP people elected delegate don't like McCain, so if we can unbind them they can vote for an alternative -- Dr. Paul.

the state convention

Fortune Favors the Bold

where we would unbind the delegates, is also where we would elect the deledates to the national convention

Fortune Favors the Bold

We know how the delegates

We know how the delegates are elected but it seems you do not understand how they are elected.

I suggest you read this post on how the delegate process and the nomination actually works.

http://www.dailypaul.com/node/36650#comment-399025

Dr. Steve Parent

For God's sake Ryan

Will you leave this 75% crap alone? Does it really matter who said what to who when?

You and Dr Parent are on the same damn side. He is not the enemy. Let bygones be bygones, please.

Whatever he may have said or may not have said about percentages or been rude or whatever - the RNC rules are there in black and white and we can all check them for ourselves. For the record, I think you will agree that what he is saying NOW matches those rules perfectly. Yes? Fine - let's move on.

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Live Free or Die - Amen to that

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Live Free or Die - Amen to that

Why should a person who is

Why should a person who is not a Republican, not a delegate and does not know the real process be shouting from the roof tops for our movement?

For God's sake, you don't care that he lied? Or did he just make a mistake? No one ever lies anymore, it's just a mistake.

It's more than 1 thing he lied about and then he attacked people like a child when questioned politely on it.

For God's sake and our party's sake (you know the one Steve Parent isn't a member of), think about it.

You sound like Dr. Paul

Talking about Romney and McCain at the Reagan Library debate.

RYAN & SGP

Can you two start working to together before McCain, Hillary or Obama sneaks in the office while you are too busy pointing out flaws in human imperfection? Between the two of you, we have a better chance (at our level) of coordinating a win than the entire HQ staff.

Now shake hands and get back to work!!!

John E.

r/s
John R. Ellis
"Citizen for Freedom"

Ryan you may have good

Ryan you may have good intentions but your logic and advice is going to hurt what is being accomplished.

This is the only time i am going to respond because you have made me have to give people the advice they need to accomplish the delegate process.

What i am disappointed about is that it took someone from the Democratic party to educate the GOP on how to win thier own nomination? Ryan as a leader all of you should of had this information readily available for everyone why did it take me that wasn't even from your party to educate your party on your own process?

Why have all your experts not made this information available? What are they waiting for? I have spent hours trying to rekindle this movement at my own expense and i want nothing in return except a President i can trust to lead the American people NOTHING MORE and i don't care what letter is next to thier name so long as they get the job done.

Why haven't your people already drafted the Resolution to unbind?

Do i need to draft that too? So you can just try to tear it down?

I have already helped many to write thier resolutions and many have passed around the country as well as others that have already had thier resolutions written with out my help and are ready to move to the question.

"Our State GOP Chairman will appoint a Resolutions Committee and review the Resolutions (whatever that means). I'm trying to find out the exact process." Why does it say in your bylaws? The answer should be right there. Do you need a committee or is that voted on at your convention? Is the committee behind closed doors? Do you need 2/3 of the delegates to move to a new resolution? You shouldn't be waiting for answers you should be finding them time is running out.

If you want to ask someone in the GOP for advice i strongly advise against taking thier advice as gospel and you should always research and confirm the information for yourself without exception. Don't even take my word as gospel go and research and confirm it yourself it is all there in BLACK AND WHITE for all to read.

Educate yourselves never rely on someone to take charge and lead be a leader yourself and you will be better able to take care of yourselves.

Just read the rules as they are written in your county, state and the official RNC call.

Learn about RULES OF ORDER these are a must know if you are going to attend a convention and if you do not understand the language and meaning of these conventions you will be at a disadvantage when you attend.

I looked at this last night and i agree this is a great read for all in the rules of order.

www.robertsrules.org Read it live it learn it.

Here is the call for the RNC

http://www.gop.com/images/2008_Call_FINAL.pdf Read it live it learn it.

Obtain a copy of your bylaws in your county and your state Read it live it learn it.

If you are not prepared it will be a long road.

Good luck in CO Ryan and keep up the fight because you can't win if you don't try.

As far as you Executive Committee member you want out just check your bylaws and check to see if thier is a clause for dismissal clause for CAUSE. Most bylaws have this clause and can be enacted immediately.

God bless

Dr. Steve Parent

I agree - where are the experts?

Why don't we have an expert educating us about the delegate process instead of a DNC member? I applaud your general efforts, I just want to spread accurate information.

I have no clue i wasn't even

I have no clue i wasn't even from your party and i am doing the best i can to get this word out but you have to admit look at was has happened in the last 2 months in many states.

All i can do is give everyone the advice i have and help in any way i can.

I just want a President that knows what the hell they are doing.

The DNC and the RNC are very similiar in nature but rules of order are universal.

Dr. Steve Parent

Colorado delegates are

Colorado delegates are non-bound.

I did post a delegate thread 2-months ago. That's how we met. You posted in it.

The Executive Committee member already resigned. I am in a different county and I've read the bylaws about removing a person from office. We are wanting the Denver GOP Chairperson to resign, or we will collect signatures from the Central Committee members (1/3rd to bring the vote, 2/3rds to remove).

I'm getting excited for my

convention!

Are you talking about this....

Florida Congressional District Caucuses

http://www.rpof.org/resources/docs/CDCaucuses2008.pdf

Good luck,

Latinos for Ron Paul

Ron Paul 2012 for Peace

Ryan, Thank You.

I've heard your exchange on RPRradio.com with SGP. I think it's about time you two squash your differences. Nothing more than two siblings in one big happy disparate, independent minded, quasi-dysfunctional family, bickering over symantics.

Hell, who would have ever thought freethinkers like us, would agree on anything enough to get organized to have even the remote impact that the RP RƎVO⅃UTION did have, up to this point? To that extent, we should be more than happy. Obviously much more real and fast approaching dire challenges ahead. But no reason not to take some solace in wins, while not resting on our laurels.

Both made your points. I, and hopefully many others, equally appreciate both you and SGP's attempt at promoting Ron Paul's message and the delegate process. I did read some of your earlier posts; though it may not have been intended that way, but beyond Super Tuesday, some did come off as defeatist in tone.

Many of us were in a funk after SuperTuesday. But regardless, at this point, it just comes off as the only difference between you and SGP, is that he hurt your feelings with his enthusiasm coupled with minor abrasiveness.

But we are all after the same thing. I disagree with you, at least with your March 17th portion of the interview on Knar's show on RPRradio, that there are better, more winnable battles than the RP's GOP nomination/candidacy. Though I recognize that you did stress, paraphrasing, 'unless we figure out a way to unbind the delegates' by overturning internal rules. So I'm glad you stepped up to provide further info. Thank you.

But as far as SGP and you, and yes I do see the irony in me bringing up the issue again, while asking you to squash differences, but how else are you gonna know what I'm talking about;o) But, either way, let us move forward. It is CLEAR that we ARE all on the same team. Let us use GOP's own info, its own rules, to change from within, and beat the neoCON fascists and apparatchiks at their own game. But really, screw RealClearPolitics and GreenFootball. You're assuming that no one can fake someone else's name. Plus even if he did state erroneous numbers, they are easily misquoted; you're really gonna hold it against him when the intention wasn't to derail the movement, nor was the number such that it was utterly crucial to be absolutely accurate at a specific moment? All that matters is the intent. At this point, none of those numbers matter, IF we are successful at unbinding them. You taking this step tells me that you yourself see this as a viable strategy. Bravo!!

Rock on brother, make peace with SGP. He's been quite accomadating to many that called personally to consult with him. Perhaps that should be your next step. There is no need for uneasiness between you two.

I respect you both. Now, just imagine how much stronger the validity of this info in regards to the delegate process and unbinding bound delegates if you two BOTH strongly promoted it, together, or separately, but with equal vigor?

Just something to consider. But PLEASE DO NOT STOP what you're doing. Keep on Rockin, brother!!! Spread the word. This fight is NOT done until the Conventions, then Nov. elections, and beyond, until this Republic is restored!!!

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Because the genie is out of the bottle, and I WANT MY FREEDOM, I WANT IT BACK! I WANT MY REPUBLIC BACK!, more than I WANT SEX!! So say we all!

I AM RON PAUL!! We ARE ALL RON PAUL!!!!!

President RON PAUL: Jan 20, 2009 - Jan 20, 2017
Because, I STILL B E L I E V E!!!!!!!

Do not count on Huck's and Mitt's delegates being unbound

Huck and Mitt's respective campaigns have released letters when asked noting that neither is willing to give up their delegates. In my state these letters had a bad resuklt for us: even though our state party rules clearly say that the delegates for candidates who "drop out" will be reapportioned to remaining candidates (which would have given Ron Paul an Alaskan majority over McCain, the last-place finisher in our presidential preference vote), the GOP chairman successfully used those statements from Huck and Mitt that they intended to be in the race all the way to the convention, and therefore they had not "dropped out" of the race. Sneaky, yes.

Just letting you know what you are up against.

RP2012!

That's very interesting. I

That's very interesting. I have yet to see official rules from State GOPs or the RNC about if the Huck or Mitt delegates could vote for anyone.

But you are saying because they "suspended" their campaign, that it prevents them from reapportioning the delegates in that state? Also more than half will most likely vote for McCain anyway. But hopefully not.

You're right... it has been a HUGE distraction

I think I speak for the entire Daily Paul community when I say to both of you, "Let it go."

You both have the same goal - to get Dr. Paul as many delegates as possible at the national convention.

SGP has advocated unbinding delegates at the state level many times.

Stop questioning eachother. You both abviously know a good deal about the process. You should be working together to help overcome the great obstacles we have in our way.

I am all for a little healthy debate, but at the end of the day, don't make the Revolution suffer for it.

And, though not as qualified as either of you, I am a PCP in Oregon and have submitted my candidacy and filing fee to the Oregon GOP to serve as a national delegate.

Let's work together and prove to the world that the MSM doesn't determine who will be the President of the United States.

I gave up this debate over a

I gave up this debate over a month ago and stopped posting here to focus on other things since it was such a distraction.

To be clear, I politely asked SGP where it said 75% of delegates were non-bound. He attacked me and others. I offered him to call me on my RP2008 phone. He never did. He just attacked me.

I don't want SGP speaking for our movement. He is a liar, perhaps he is well intentioned but he lied to me several times as proven in his comments and in his statements on the radio.

it might not be a good idea

Fortune Favors the Bold

to give them a heads up

if we read the rulebook, we can introduce our own resolutions

http://www.dailypaul.com/node/42816#comment-397158

Fortune Favors the Bold

My background...

I'm no longer commenting on the controversy, as it has been a huge distraction. If anyone doubts I'm a Ron Paul supporter, ask someone in Colorado. I am the Adams County Ron Paul Organizer -- which I was instrumental along with a few others in winning 1/4th to 1/3rd of the CD and State Delegates. We are bigger than Denver County.

I am also a Denver Ron Paul Meetup Assistant Organizer. I worked in the Denver HQ's about 3-days per week. I am the only RP-Republican who is a member of the Adams County GOP Executive Committee. I am also a member of the Ron Paul Grassroots National Council.

In the last week, I called out a Denver GOP Executive Committee member who lied to the Denver GOP Central Committee. The Denver GOP Chairperson hates Ron Paul supporters and I believe instructed a member of her Executive Committee to lie about the location of a GOP meeting.

After I called out the Executive Committee member, he resigned. I am now working to have the Chairperson resign for disenfranchising active Republican volunteers. http://blog.nationbuilder.org/2008/03/denver-gop-district-ca...

I am also a CD and State Delegate, running for National Delegate and working hard to build relationships with politicians who are running for both state and national offices. Furthermore, through the Ron Paul National Grassroots Council I am heading 4-states for Tax Day 08 and having a party/event in Denver to recruit people for Tax Day 08.

Hundreds of people know me and for Steve Parent to say that I am not a supporter is clearly untrue and out of line. I would like Steve to let us know what Meetup he is a member of, if he is a Republican and if he is a Delegate for Ron Paul.

You can read more on my blog at: http://blog.nationbuilder.org (it was featured on the main page of InfoWars the last few days)

Impressive credentials btw.

Impressive credentials btw. (im impressed anyway)..:-)

Thanks

Thanks, I appreciate it. We have tons of great activists here in Colorado and nationwide in our movement.

Almost everything I do is in regards to the REVOLUTION. I love the fact that the delegate process has been elevated to a higher level but I am a huge believer in spreading accurate information. And I believe we should fight the battles we can win and not focus on one individual race (as Dr. Paul said essentially) but the REVOLUTION as a whole.

We're going to win. We are already winning regardless of what happens at the National Convention. Ron Paul and the REVOLUTION win will.

Great, but let it go....

I would like to thank you and Dr. Parent for your overwhelming support for Dr. Paul.

Good luck,

Latinos for Ron Paul

Ron Paul 2012 for Peace

Your welcome Dr. Steve

Your welcome

Dr. Steve Parent

All due respect, I will

All due respect, I will never let go when it regards inaccurate information. Please remember you aren't viewing our "debate" in full context as this really started at the beginning of February.

Anyway, check out this NAFTA and NAU conversation I had with two people from the Republican National Hispanic Assembly. The one who supports the NAU and Dr. Pastor specifically was a former State President of the RNHA and now current President of a Hispanic Chamber of Commerce in CO.

http://blog.nationbuilder.org/2008/03/lincoln-dinner-convers...