Ron Paul Isn't About to Embrace John McCain-- and McCain Just Wants Him and His Supporters to Disappear and Get off His Lawn
As a result of that article posted on DP earlier from the Washington Times, I've seen comments (positive ones) from liberal blogger Jane Hamsher of Firedoglake and then there's this one from Down With Tyranny." http://downwithtyranny.blogspot.com/2008/03/ron-paul-isnt-ab...
I don't know how to BOLD the sentence, but read the one that starts "Charles Black...". hahaha
"Today's Moonie Times reports on the still smoldering emnity between Senator John McCain and Congressman Ron Paul. McCain went so far as to back-- albeit surreptitiously-- an insurgent right wing primary opponent against Paul. Paul walked over him without breaking a sweat. And now Paul is hardly in the mood to bury and hatchets and reconcile with the inevitable Republican presidential candidate. And his supporters hate McCain more than he does! Paul claims his supporters-- passionate newcomers-- are being given the cold shoulder by the button down Insider Establishment types who control the Double Talk Express.
The Texas congressman says neither he nor his supporters have heard from Mr. McCain or Republican National Committee Chairman Mike Duncan since March 4, when the Arizona senator accumulated enough delegates to clinch the party's presidential nomination.
"I don't think they want them," Mr. Paul told The Washington Times, adding that indifference doesn't surprise him because the party's establishment has deserted traditional conservative principles for big government and foreign intervention.
"We don't agree with them," he says. "We agree with the Old Right, and they're the New Right, which is 'The Wrong,' [because] the New Right has morphed into neoconservative."
Many of his 800,000 presidential nomination votes were from newcomers to the Republican Party-- the kind of dedicated small-donor volunteers the party needs, he says.
One of the least credible of the bloodsucking lobbyists who runs McCain's campaign, Charles Black, is whining that Paul's supporters are getting the cold shoulder because Paul hasn't prostrated himself and kissed the ring, promised to be a good boy and stop telling everyone that the idea of endless war in Iraq is a bad idea. That's not likely to happen. Unlike McCain and other Insider political hacks, Paul actually believes in the stuff he talks about.
Mr. Paul says that neoconservatives who hijacked the Republicans extol what he most abhors: the belief that government is part of the solution, not the problem, and that America's inherent beneficence entitles it to force selected other nations to make themselves over in America's image.
That's partly the reason why, even though Mr. McCain has crossed the finish line of this marathon, Mr. Paul will keep running in states with upcoming primaries.
He wants to see whether the surprisingly successful appeal of his limited-government message represents the beginning of a "revolution" within the Republican Party similar to the one that began swelling the party's ranks with church-going newcomers 30 years ago.
...Fellow lawmakers say his supporters have all but taken over at least one state Republican Party-- in Montana-- and some county Republican parties in Texas.
He won't support Mr. McCain "unless he changes-- bring the troops home, believe in the gold standard, reject all the votes he ever had for all his entitlement spending. He needs to come back to the roots of the Republican Party."
Over 800,000 Republicans voted for Paul so far-- more than for Giuliani or Fred Thompson-- and his campaign raised over $32 million. Many Paul supporters say they are more likely to sit out the November election or vote for Obama than vote for McCain."





















Charles Black...
Can Prostrate himself and kiss my hairy Puerto Rican Ass!!!
Vote Third Party
Sitting out the election, or voting for Obama (or Clinton) is the wrong thing to do. A vote for Obama or Clinton equals a vote for McCain. They are all on the same team. Certainly, they each want to be president. They are clawing at each other for the position of president because they crave power. None of them are fit for the office.
Failing to vote just demonstrates apathy. When you don't vote, it means that you don't care. Ron Paul supporters need to vote for a viable third party alternative. This means the Constitution Party, or the Libertarian Party. To do otherwise is to throw away your vote!
Don't allow the special interests who control the Democrat and Republican parties, as well as the Old Media to silence you.
Ideally, a candidate in the image of Ron Paul would step forward and run as either the candidate for the Constitution Party, or the Libertarian Party. Unless the other party endorses this candidate we continue to divide ourselves into oblivion. If we are ever going to break the CFR hold on the two major parties, we have to either take over the Republican Party (which is not going to happen this time), or we have to come together and vote for a Constitutional candidate.
That means not sitting out the election. It means not voting for the lesser of two evils. And, it means not dividing our forces. We need to get a Constitutional candidate and support him or her.
I wish that parts of this article had been published
last year or earlier this year. At least Dr. Paul will still be in Congress and, I hope, still on the Banking committee. I would like to see us be able to elect about 400 more like him and about 60 more like him in the U.S. Senate. That's a long hard journey.
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"An economy built on fiat money is a society on its way to ashes."
How unusual...
Unlike McCain and other Insider political hacks, Paul actually believes in the stuff he talks about.
“The law cannot make a wicked person virtuous…God’s grace alone can accomplish such a thing.” Ron Paul - The Revolution
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I would like to see us possibly make a deal with McCain to lend support in exchange for a cabinet position, perhaps Treasury..I would rather see the good Dr somewhere where he could make a difference rather than out in the cold
Freakshow, Liar, "waahh my painting"...ok Now I am *really* done
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"To create a great evil you must pervert a great good"
Umm, yeah - that painting
Umm, yeah - that painting was from a college student. Let's get the facts before we post.
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I have no painting...I told you that was someone else...that was a college kid, I'm a grandfather
What?????
What?????
why???
so Dr. Paul can be silenced (or fired) from a cabinet position instead of continuing his work in congress?
That makes no sense at all.
no
So he can impact the economy..McCain has already admitted he knows nothing of the economy..In the cabinet Dr Paul, and therefore the revolution, are visible..in the congress as the lone no vote on many bills we have absolutely no impact..and at his age it's now or never for Dr Paul...I
Hey "onevoice"like I asked you last night,what are you going to
do when they make dumbasses illegal? Really, what will you do?
I thought you bought heavy in Visa today? Why would you want RP's message of spending within your means to be viable or mainstream anywhere, let alone in a loser's cabinet which is non-existent because he will never win anyway? I am done with you. You are non existent to me.
Peace,
Betsy
PS. We see through you
"To create a great evil you must pervert a great good"
No
I didn't buy visa...i think you may be confusing me with "avoiceof reason" who posts here
umm not so much... really rally done
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"To create a great evil you must pervert a great good"
You can't be a RP supporter
... if you were, you would realize that for him to do something like that would require him to completely sell-out everything he believes in in order to obtain a position of "power". RP is much more principled than that, sorry. Ron Paul has already stated he will not even ENDORSE McCain as they are way too far apart on the issues. Ron Paul would never comprimise his beliefs before somebody as pathetic as John McCain.
Then
both he and the movement will disappear from the radar screen..he can't make any real difference in congress
So you'd rather have him
So you'd rather have him sell-out then? Sorry, not me. And no, the movement will not "die" (as much as you may want it to). Do you happen to know how many people are running for office on the so-called "Ron Paul platform"? Don't be so quick to dismiss the movement just because it's not going in the direction YOU want it to.
Then
Then helping the country and in particular the economy is not your goal......so we end up empty handed...if you don't engage your enemy you achieve nothing
If by helping out the
If by helping out the economy you mean "bailout", you're right ... .that's not my goal.
BTW, are you that naive to think that John McCain would even "allow" Ron Paul a position in his beloved Cabinet should he become POTUS? Please. It's a moot point.
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I mean buy getting rid of the fed and influencing economic policy....and you are probably right that McCain would never go for it, but why not take a shot.....I'm interested in doing something, not being a pimple on the ass of progress
you can't be a RP supporter
I agree with you justjenmi, that guy just doesn't get it!!
Thank you Henri :-)
You're right ... a true supporter would know that such a deal isn't within the realm of possibility!
McCain and his neocon
McCain and his neocon cronies aren't interested in truth, sensibility, or we the people. Period.
In Macinsane's cabinet ?
Impossible,the good DR. has to much integrety for such nonsence.
Live for Liberty
www.patriotsadvocate.net
We gotta do this
We really have to do this. We have our work cut out for us, let's DO IT!
I plan on voting Constitution or Libertarian...certainly not for
that war-mongering,big spending neo-liberal buffoon...
Ron Paul'08
I will vote as a write in
the best candidate RP.
Robo, you ever read the preamble to the constitution party? I thought the constitution party sounded good and I am sure they get votes just because of their name, but after further review.
http://www.constitutionparty.com/party_platform.php#Preamble
"The Constitution Party gratefully acknowledges the blessing of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ as Creator, Preserver and Ruler of the Universe and of these United States. We hereby appeal to Him for mercy, aid, comfort, guidance and the protection of His Providence as we work to restore and preserve these United States."
Now I'm not a lawyer, but this seems in violation of the first amendment as it seems to adopt christianity as THE religion. A platform like that would exclude many potential supporters and turn off constitutional Christians like myself. Now the little old lady down the road who goes to church every Sunday and never read the constitution may very well love that preamble.
I plan on voting Republican in November
...for RON PAUL.
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What is begun in anger, ends in shame.
Thank you for posting
You just KNOW the powers that be in the GOP have their panties in a bunch over this whole thing ... LMAO.
I looooove Ron Paul - always speaking the truth! And he's got the GOP pegged!!
On thing I'd like us to notice
"One of the least credible of the bloodsucking lobbyists who runs McCain's campaign, Charles Black, is whining that Paul's supporters are getting the cold shoulder because Paul hasn't prostrated himself and kissed the ring, promised to be a good boy and stop telling everyone that the idea of endless war in Iraq is a bad idea."