Gary North on Gold
Submitted by Samuel Howell Jr. on Thu, 03/20/2008 - 08:48
Anyone on this site familiar with Gary North? I read his articles on Lew Rockwell's site on occassion and he always down on gold and silver. In fact, he thinks we just saw the precious metals bubble pop.
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Gary North was the chief drafter of the House Intelligence report from 1982 I cited in my post as proof that David Rockefeller was supplying military intelligence and critical supply material to Soviet Weapons factories during the Vietnam War.
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Trade?
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Let`s see, my home value decreased by 28.5% and my gold decreased by 11%. Anybody want to swap some of that worthless gold for my house?
You will be pleased to note that my property taxes have not dropped any.
To bad they don`t allow me to pay property taxes on my gold.
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Maybe right, maybe wrong
North seems a bit narrow to me.
Whatever information he has concerning M1 and M2, he sees that the Fed is not currently inflating the money supply. He could be right about that, but that's only part of the story. His commentary doesn't touch upon the macroeconomic view.
People, or rather, countries, are dumping dollars, which inflates the money supply, so the Fed doesn't necessarily "corner the market" in inflationary pressures.
I like North's articles on gold, but not as much as I like Chris Laird's at Prudent Squirrel. Chris usually gives a good assessment from a macroeconomic point of view.
Gary North is right
some of the time. Pay particular attention to what he says about the long bond prices. Want to see clear signs that the drop in bullion prices are manufactured?
http://www.silverstockreport.com/2008/crunch.html
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In 1840 a Sunday go to
In 1840 a Sunday go to meeting suit, "Black broadcloth with trimmings complete for a suit cost $13, and it cost $6 to get it made. The price of an ounce of gold was $20.
http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~nychenan/raft-rr2.htm
Today the cost of a good suit is $1000. The price of an ounce of gold is
$1000.
"According to retailers, consumers have remained undeterred. Linda Hopler, the men's fashion merchandising director and a vice president at Saks Fifth Avenue, said that her store is doing ''astounding'' business with its highest-priced suits, which include Oxxford, Giorgio Armani, Hickey Freeman and Gianfranco Ferre.
''We don't sell suits that are $250 or $300,'' she said. ''Our average price point is $575 and $600, and we do an everyday business in $1,000 suits.'' Hopler feels that customers really are getting a better-made suit at these prices.
All you do by buying Gold or Silver and holding it is hedging against inflation. If the price of a good suit was to go back to $20 the price of an oz. of gold would go back to $20.
I am and have been buying and holding not speculating.
So what if the price of Gold went down yesterday and today, the value of the dollar went up in conjunction with it.
Been like this throughout history.
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Deflation
I could see a period of defaltion, just like during the Great Depression, occurring as a result of the Fed tightening the money supply. But that is not the situation we are currently facing. When the world is awash in dollars and the dollar spigot is wide open with no letup in sight, how is that deflationary? I admit that I am very skeptical of Gary North. I believe he seeks attention by being a contrarian. And how is a bubble created in precious metals? Can someone explain these things to me?
North since the '80s
He's long-winded and sometimes "right". I prefer reading other speculators.
right....because inflation
right....because inflation LOWERS the value of precious metals.
Gold will go up in time. The laws of economics say so. Just don't trade on margin and eventually you will come out a winner.
Any temporary deflation will eventually be offset by rampant inflation. This is how it works. We are just in that temporary phase where deflation precedes inflation. In time, the dollar will die and gold will be a mirror-reverse of it.
I have to disagree
with your statement regarding inflation lowering the value of precious metals. Precious metals are highly valued during inflationary times.
i was being sarcastic
i was being sarcastic
Sorry!
Sorry!
it's deflationary
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in the sense that while there is more total money available, more institutions will be aggresively calling in loans to get actual liquidity as insurance against all that debt they needed to get in to remain solvent.
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Ok, if I understand you correctly
The Fed is inflating the money supply, while the banksters are hoarding as much cash as they can, which acts as a deflating mechanism on the overall economy? I think this is making sense, I knew there was another part to this that I wasn't seeing, being the armchair econimist that I am.
Would this action on the part of the banksters cause prices to fall? Wouldn't this contribute to a recession if they're sitting on all the cash? Because all I'm reading over at jsmineset.com is hyper inflation is coming. So where does that fit into all the falling dominos?
All very interesting, but darn confusing!
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no
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prices will still go up.
it is confusing
as commodities inevitably increase in value, you have to pay more for essentials, which forces the price of everything up.
Once this happens, the result will be an "inflationary depression."
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Everybody hold on tight
because it's going to be a wild ride. And hold on tight to your gold. Wannabe "traders" are going to get creamed. Buy gold and silver during the dips, and hold it. The dollar has been sacrificed on the altar of greed by the banksters. Now they would have you sell your gold during the price drops so that they can pick it up for themselves. Not only are they robbing us by debasing our currency, but they also want any gold we might be holding in order to leave us naked during the economic perfect storm that they are creating. There is no rational explanation for the drop in the gold price. This is a manipulation of the price by the banksters, the US Treasury Department, other govenment entities and their agents. They are criminals without conscience. Don't let them win. Don't listen to the spin. Hold on tight!
Yes I read his columns
on LRC, good insight into what is going on, but I still cannot figure out how the Fed is deflating, as he claims. The graphs, etc. don't make layman's sense to me I suppose. Today's article I don't find very useful, basically he's saying you should time the market perfectly for buying, selling and shorting gold. Great advice if you have a crystal ball. I just put an order in last week for silver at $20.50, buying high again, so my market timing has a lot to be desired, as do most people.
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I agree regarding the
I agree regarding the deflation. How do you deflate when you lower rates, open up the discount window to an industry that never had access to it and auction off money around the world...or try to anyway?
That's what I say
All the Fed inflationary manipulations are there as plain as day, so is there something they are doing under the radar to deflate the dollar as a hedge or another con game? It's all very confusing. Especially since deflation is what the Fed fears most, I thougth. A healthy capitalist economy experiences deflation due to efficiency and technology improvements in production. Similar to the economies of scale, where takes $100 dollars each to create ten widgets, but only $10 each to create 1000 of the same widges, prices get driven down due to efficiencies. But producers don't want prices to go down, just look at the gasoline companies, i.e., more refineries would lower the price of gasoline for consumers. But due to a lack of competition, refineries won't get built and the price is artifically inflated. Also, gas at $3 per gallon or higher justifies crude extraction from shale and sand reserves, which costs much more than just drilling, allowing the big companies to expand their operations. All very frustrating for you and me.
So, someone please explain to me in plain terms, how is the Fed deflating the dollar?
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how could we have possibly
how could we have possibly seen the "bubble pop", when we haven't even STARTED to see the worst of the inflation yet?
I'm an amateur, but it seems to me it'll still be several months before we start to see the real effects of the lowered interest rates and money supply expansion/inflation.
All kinds of behind the scenes shenanigans are going on to artificially prop the market up and fool people into thinking things are going to be ok. The PPT has really been earning their money lately, so to speak. Pun intended.
Perhaps this latest dip is a back-door way to steal our gold and silver from us, by tricking us into selling.
I'm not falling for it, and i'll be holding on to mine and buying MORE while it's low. don't let these bastards get the best of you.
He could be right, that may
He could be right, that may be it for now. Gold has been skyrocketing, and may already reflect the tanking of the dollar. I think in the long run it climbs, but there will always be valleys among the peaks. It's a great hedge against the debased dollar, but people who thought they were going to make money "trading" it were in for a rude awakening.
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