Submitted by meekandmild on Tue, 07/29/2008 - 20:27.
in the early 80's. Parker drilling company were capping 8 out of 10 new wells.
Parker drilling rig 201 (big rig 81, largest land rig built ) on the south side of I-40, Elk City, OK drilled deeper than 10 miles deep, Parker hit oil and gas several times. they pulled the rig and capped the well
nations to sign a treaty to trade their oil in dollars. The only 2 countries to refuse to do this were IRAQ and IRAN. I forget which segment it's on, but this happened back in the 70's. Oil is the new currency.
This is more than just a coincidence that we're currently IN Iraq and about to pre-emptively strike Iran (code word for attack and steal their oil)
These oil companies who met secretly with Cheney before we invaded Iraq should REPAY the American taxpayers every last DIME, and then PAY every family who have lost a member of our military for guarding the oil over there. This is a DISGRACE!
Kucinich mentioned this same thing about Cheney and the oil companies, Shell, BP and Conoco Philips when he discusses the need to impeach the criminals Bush/Cheney.
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"If virtue and knowledge are diffused among the People, they will never be enslaved. This will be their great security."
-Samuel Adams-
but when the supply is reduced and the price is increased -- even more than it is now-- then the demand will decrease and alternatives will be used. "Peak Oil" may be a flawed theory, however I maintain that the thought of a field in Alaska that would sustain the US for even 50 years at our current rate of consumption is, well, ridiculous.
I'm out on a rig 100 miles offshore in the Gulf of Mexico as I write this. I've worked on 3 different prospects in the last 2 years where the operating company spent $200 million on each prospect. They were dry holes! I may be wrong, but this implies to me that oil is getting hard to find.
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We don't know how to mind our own business
'Cause the whole worlds got to be just like us
Now we are fighting a war over there
No matter who's the winner
We can't pay the cost
-Steppenwolf 1969
You seem to contradict yourself a bit. You say that we will never run out of oil but then go on to write that oil is getting hard to find. That last part does mean that we are beginning to run out.
Submitted by Big Naughty on Fri, 03/21/2008 - 13:52.
if you listen closely to Lindsey Williams and remain skeptical you'll realize major portions of this story are bs. ask yourself this question. if you secretly ruled the world would you invite him to join in on your we secretly rule the world meeting?
plus just check out his website. he'll tell you all the "real" secrets he didn't reveal in those youtube videos for the low price of $19.95 a month.
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No matter who you vote for, the government always gets in - Bill Hicks
He also repeatedly uses such red-flag phrases as the "Chemical Structure of Oil" that NO petroleum geologist would ever use. Petroleum is a liquid, which by definition has no structure! What he should have said was, I believe, the "hydrocarbon profile" or possibly "chemical composition" of the oil instead.
Submitted by Big Naughty on Fri, 03/21/2008 - 14:06.
my personal favorite was when he said that Saddam proved too much for us at the time. so we had to wait till 2003 to overthrow him. my memory just ain't what it used to be. but didn't we leave his entire army in flames on the highway back to Baghdad? so exactly how did he prove to much for us?
all i thought to myself when those videos were over is that i could have been sleeping the entire time. instead i just wasted a few hours of my life watching that crap.
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No matter who you vote for, the government always gets in - Bill Hicks
The possibility of 200 years of oil in this single field is simply bullshit guys. While I don't doubt that the government and industry do their best to screw us over, I'm a geologist working in the oil industry and can tell you that it is just not realistic.
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We don't know how to mind our own business
'Cause the whole worlds got to be just like us
Now we are fighting a war over there
No matter who's the winner
We can't pay the cost
-Steppenwolf 1969
To be fair... the article talks about 200 years worth of oil in 1977, not today. Our consumption is much higher now than it was then, so 200 years worth of oil in 1977 might be 70 years worth today.
What, another voice of reason on this thread? Thanks for standing up for common sense here, buddy, but be assured that you are about to be vehemently attacked for being an "industry and government shill" or some such for popping this pet theory of, apparently, quite a few people. If these proponents of this Gull Island mega field realized how ridiculous it makes them sound, they woudl cringe. I got flamed last night for trying to inject some sense into this conversation, but it's a lost cause.
No post is above scrutiny here. Just because someone says something is so, doesn't mean it is so. That goes for both the original post/article and for Bugman's comment. Let's not arbitrarily pick someone to side with and prematurely decide who the "voice of reason" is.
Absolutely true! But I cringe when I see (well, read) people who adamantly accept and defend stories and theories with, shall we say, less than a comprehensive factual basis. Just because somebody, somewhere, claims that "they" are suppressing some truth or knowledge does not make it so ---- even though I am sympathetic and open to such claims, I still want a decent level of supporting facts before I will give such claims my support.
My feeling about this Gull Island story is that the originator, as so often happens, took a kernel of truth and expanded it into a bushel of supposition. (And yes, as promised I did read up on it last night, and was not very impressed by the thin veneer of "evidence" used to support it --- basically, just one man's word).
Submitted by dmarie340 on Fri, 03/21/2008 - 12:24.
Thanks to "American Free Press" and its predecessor "The Spotlight", i have known about this deception for a long time. I received their publications since the mid '70's and have yet to find anything they have written about to be untrue. When they reported that Gov. Bill Clinton was chosen to be the next president of the United States more than 3 years prior to the election, I thought this was one time they had to be wrong, seeing as I had never heard of the man. I decided to keep the issue so I could show them how wrong they were after the election. Needless to say, I needed to send them my apology the day after Bill Clinton won the presidency. As they reported many times in the past, the oil reserves are there. Each time I would visit Alaska, I would do some snooping around, and it seems to be common knowledge among the natives of this fact. There have been numerous other reports that the United States has sufficient oil reserves to provide us with an adequate supply for the next 200 years. One more reason to work harder to get Dr. Paul and other Paulites in Washington!
"Nothing is as it appears; everything is smoke and mirrors"
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"Nothing is as it appears; everything is smoke and mirrors"
Isn't the reason the Chevron well is capped is that they don't want to explore in the envrionmentally sensitive area?
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We don't know how to mind our own business
'Cause the whole worlds got to be just like us
Now we are fighting a war over there
No matter who's the winner
We can't pay the cost
-Steppenwolf 1969
no, it's not.
chevron and the other oil companies who had vested interests in the alyeska pipeline were not doing so out of the goodness of their hearts.
it was and is for economic and political reasons.
did you watch the video?
ran a documentary on "Alaska's Last Oil" just last week. They mentioned a well capped by Chevron, and maintained that it is a "tight hole" (top secret), as all wells are, successful or not.
As an aside, check out the fossil pictures and the paleontologist very briefly shown... yours truly, the BugMan.
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We don't know how to mind our own business
'Cause the whole worlds got to be just like us
Now we are fighting a war over there
No matter who's the winner
We can't pay the cost
-Steppenwolf 1969
damn, i knew that was going to be on then forgot about it...
...well, i just read the ongoing dispute. what a colossal waste of time and energy for two boys playing in the sandbox.
i read the posts because i have something to add. lindsey williams is a good man. there is oil in gull island. lots of it.
there is also plenty of gas. lots of it too.
THESE WELLS ARE CAPPED. it costs more to cap them than to get the oil and gas flowing and keep it flowing.
to those of you who have not watched the video please watch it.
i say these things because i do know what i am talking about. i worked on the alyeska pipeline back in the seventies. i drove truck. my teamsters local was out of fairbanks, alaska.
i spent 99% of the time in a camp at prudhoe bay. lindsey williams was there and it is real. deal with it.
Submitted by billyjack1958 on Fri, 03/21/2008 - 10:35.
I've had this up on digg for over a week now and when I go to it, it shows only one digg. I have posted this video and article alllll over the place on the net....and only ONE digg?? Seems odd to me.....what digg number do you see when you go to it?
Here is a video of his lecture in which he discusses his book http://video.google.com/v...
and digg it here: http://digg.com/business_...
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Submitted by blounttruth on Tue, 07/29/2008 - 21:32.
Were the most watched on Google video for three weeks in June.
In the beginning of a change the patriot is a scarce man, and brave, and hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a patriot.
~Mark Twain
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Always remember:
"It does not require a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority keen to set brush fires in people's minds." ~ Samuel Adams
Stay IRATE, remain TIRELESS, and set those BRUSH FIRES everywhere you go and in all you do!
Submitted by billyjack1958 on Fri, 03/21/2008 - 11:08.
http://digg.com/world_news/Gull_Island_Oil
This one is now showing 38 diggs in world news. The one I put on digg, I put in business/finance and you are right, today it is coming up file 404
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During the oil boom in OK
in the early 80's. Parker drilling company were capping 8 out of 10 new wells.
Parker drilling rig 201 (big rig 81, largest land rig built ) on the south side of I-40, Elk City, OK drilled deeper than 10 miles deep, Parker hit oil and gas several times. they pulled the rig and capped the well
WHAT?
I hope this is a hoax cause this would really piss me off its true. But it would be nice if we found out and gas would only cost $1.50.
Try this link (there are
Try this link (there are several others on Digg)
http://digg.com/business_finance/Gull_Island_Alaska_Oil_Hoax...
or this one:
http://digg.com/politics/Gull_Island_The_Alaskan_Oil_Lie
The last looks like a video...
L. Williams also explained how Kissinger manipulated the OPEC
nations to sign a treaty to trade their oil in dollars. The only 2 countries to refuse to do this were IRAQ and IRAN. I forget which segment it's on, but this happened back in the 70's. Oil is the new currency.
This is more than just a coincidence that we're currently IN Iraq and about to pre-emptively strike Iran (code word for attack and steal their oil)
These oil companies who met secretly with Cheney before we invaded Iraq should REPAY the American taxpayers every last DIME, and then PAY every family who have lost a member of our military for guarding the oil over there. This is a DISGRACE!
Kucinich mentioned this same thing about Cheney and the oil companies, Shell, BP and Conoco Philips when he discusses the need to impeach the criminals Bush/Cheney.
"If virtue and knowledge are diffused among the People, they will never be enslaved. This will be their great security."
-Samuel Adams-
OOPS! check your digg
http://www.campaignforliberty.com/
The DP is proof that the grassroots support for Ron Paul and his peaceful message of individual liberty is large, real, and not going away!
The problem is bankers and money, cut out the middlemen.
The only way money can work is if the government controls it and does not charge us interest. Otherwise it's better to barter.
http://www.michaeljournal.org/myth.htm
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We'll never run out of oil...
but when the supply is reduced and the price is increased -- even more than it is now-- then the demand will decrease and alternatives will be used. "Peak Oil" may be a flawed theory, however I maintain that the thought of a field in Alaska that would sustain the US for even 50 years at our current rate of consumption is, well, ridiculous.
I'm out on a rig 100 miles offshore in the Gulf of Mexico as I write this. I've worked on 3 different prospects in the last 2 years where the operating company spent $200 million on each prospect. They were dry holes! I may be wrong, but this implies to me that oil is getting hard to find.
--------
We don't know how to mind our own business
'Cause the whole worlds got to be just like us
Now we are fighting a war over there
No matter who's the winner
We can't pay the cost
-Steppenwolf 1969
'Cause there's a monster on the loose
You seem to contradict
You seem to contradict yourself a bit. You say that we will never run out of oil but then go on to write that oil is getting hard to find. That last part does mean that we are beginning to run out.
...
The implication
The implication to me is that oil may be getting harder to find where we're looking.
OK, Read this
I am reposting this. I don't know if it is legal or not but I think this needs to be read.
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=59502
Peak oil theory is blown out the window.
if you listen closely to
if you listen closely to Lindsey Williams and remain skeptical you'll realize major portions of this story are bs. ask yourself this question. if you secretly ruled the world would you invite him to join in on your we secretly rule the world meeting?
plus just check out his website. he'll tell you all the "real" secrets he didn't reveal in those youtube videos for the low price of $19.95 a month.
No matter who you vote for, the government always gets in - Bill Hicks
He also repeatedly uses such
He also repeatedly uses such red-flag phrases as the "Chemical Structure of Oil" that NO petroleum geologist would ever use. Petroleum is a liquid, which by definition has no structure! What he should have said was, I believe, the "hydrocarbon profile" or possibly "chemical composition" of the oil instead.
my personal favorite was
my personal favorite was when he said that Saddam proved too much for us at the time. so we had to wait till 2003 to overthrow him. my memory just ain't what it used to be. but didn't we leave his entire army in flames on the highway back to Baghdad? so exactly how did he prove to much for us?
all i thought to myself when those videos were over is that i could have been sleeping the entire time. instead i just wasted a few hours of my life watching that crap.
No matter who you vote for, the government always gets in - Bill Hicks
Shell U.S. President
says the world is not running out of oil.
Go to WorldNet Daily for more info.
Sorry, I had to remove the link. Copyrights and all.
Seems the concept of peak oil is falling apart.
But, we all must be conspiracy theorists to think otherwise.
Really now....
The possibility of 200 years of oil in this single field is simply bullshit guys. While I don't doubt that the government and industry do their best to screw us over, I'm a geologist working in the oil industry and can tell you that it is just not realistic.
--------
We don't know how to mind our own business
'Cause the whole worlds got to be just like us
Now we are fighting a war over there
No matter who's the winner
We can't pay the cost
-Steppenwolf 1969
'Cause there's a monster on the loose
What do you make of this
What do you make of this then?
If we attach Iran, the dollar will collapse and the economy will come to an end. I think this is the plan..
Part 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NbakN7SLdbk
Part 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UGGjbDjnNzw
Part 3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q39ic04vhNo
Part 4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZKCyCYz_aHY
Part 5
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7TYmSGwAumk
Part 6
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fbwMOvV6ctg
Part 7
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L5HGHsy3H_0
Part 8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CC61X78-OI0
To be fair... the article
To be fair... the article talks about 200 years worth of oil in 1977, not today. Our consumption is much higher now than it was then, so 200 years worth of oil in 1977 might be 70 years worth today.
Please do the research. I
Please do the research. I know a geologist who says this is true.
**the soul would have no rainbow if the eyes had no tears**
What, another voice of
What, another voice of reason on this thread? Thanks for standing up for common sense here, buddy, but be assured that you are about to be vehemently attacked for being an "industry and government shill" or some such for popping this pet theory of, apparently, quite a few people. If these proponents of this Gull Island mega field realized how ridiculous it makes them sound, they woudl cringe. I got flamed last night for trying to inject some sense into this conversation, but it's a lost cause.
No post is above scrutiny
No post is above scrutiny here. Just because someone says something is so, doesn't mean it is so. That goes for both the original post/article and for Bugman's comment. Let's not arbitrarily pick someone to side with and prematurely decide who the "voice of reason" is.
Absolutely true! But I
Absolutely true! But I cringe when I see (well, read) people who adamantly accept and defend stories and theories with, shall we say, less than a comprehensive factual basis. Just because somebody, somewhere, claims that "they" are suppressing some truth or knowledge does not make it so ---- even though I am sympathetic and open to such claims, I still want a decent level of supporting facts before I will give such claims my support.
My feeling about this Gull Island story is that the originator, as so often happens, took a kernel of truth and expanded it into a bushel of supposition. (And yes, as promised I did read up on it last night, and was not very impressed by the thin veneer of "evidence" used to support it --- basically, just one man's word).
Truth is sometimes difficult to grasp
Thanks to "American Free Press" and its predecessor "The Spotlight", i have known about this deception for a long time. I received their publications since the mid '70's and have yet to find anything they have written about to be untrue. When they reported that Gov. Bill Clinton was chosen to be the next president of the United States more than 3 years prior to the election, I thought this was one time they had to be wrong, seeing as I had never heard of the man. I decided to keep the issue so I could show them how wrong they were after the election. Needless to say, I needed to send them my apology the day after Bill Clinton won the presidency. As they reported many times in the past, the oil reserves are there. Each time I would visit Alaska, I would do some snooping around, and it seems to be common knowledge among the natives of this fact. There have been numerous other reports that the United States has sufficient oil reserves to provide us with an adequate supply for the next 200 years. One more reason to work harder to get Dr. Paul and other Paulites in Washington!
"Nothing is as it appears; everything is smoke and mirrors"
"Nothing is as it appears; everything is smoke and mirrors"
the capped Chevron well
Isn't the reason the Chevron well is capped is that they don't want to explore in the envrionmentally sensitive area?
--------
We don't know how to mind our own business
'Cause the whole worlds got to be just like us
Now we are fighting a war over there
No matter who's the winner
We can't pay the cost
-Steppenwolf 1969
'Cause there's a monster on the loose
the capped chevron well...
no, it's not.
chevron and the other oil companies who had vested interests in the alyeska pipeline were not doing so out of the goodness of their hearts.
it was and is for economic and political reasons.
did you watch the video?
Ron Paul is My President
National Geographic...
ran a documentary on "Alaska's Last Oil" just last week. They mentioned a well capped by Chevron, and maintained that it is a "tight hole" (top secret), as all wells are, successful or not.
As an aside, check out the fossil pictures and the paleontologist very briefly shown... yours truly, the BugMan.
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We don't know how to mind our own business
'Cause the whole worlds got to be just like us
Now we are fighting a war over there
No matter who's the winner
We can't pay the cost
-Steppenwolf 1969
'Cause there's a monster on the loose
i am reposting my earlier post - some in all caps...
damn, i knew that was going to be on then forgot about it...
...well, i just read the ongoing dispute. what a colossal waste of time and energy for two boys playing in the sandbox.
i read the posts because i have something to add. lindsey williams is a good man. there is oil in gull island. lots of it.
there is also plenty of gas. lots of it too.
THESE WELLS ARE CAPPED. it costs more to cap them than to get the oil and gas flowing and keep it flowing.
to those of you who have not watched the video please watch it.
i say these things because i do know what i am talking about. i worked on the alyeska pipeline back in the seventies. i drove truck. my teamsters local was out of fairbanks, alaska.
i spent 99% of the time in a camp at prudhoe bay. lindsey williams was there and it is real. deal with it.
Ron Paul is My President
I've had this up on digg for
I've had this up on digg for over a week now and when I go to it, it shows only one digg. I have posted this video and article alllll over the place on the net....and only ONE digg?? Seems odd to me.....what digg number do you see when you go to it?
Here is a video of his lecture in which he discusses his book
http://video.google.com/v...
and digg it here:
http://digg.com/business_...
**the soul would have no rainbow if the eyes had no tears**
The videos of this guy
Were the most watched on Google video for three weeks in June.
In the beginning of a change the patriot is a scarce man, and brave, and hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a patriot.
~Mark Twain
Always remember:
"It does not require a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority keen to set brush fires in people's minds." ~ Samuel Adams
Stay IRATE, remain TIRELESS, and set those BRUSH FIRES everywhere you go and in all you do!
How odd...it worked yesterday. Here is another link
http://digg.com/world_news/Gull_Island_Oil
This one is now showing 38 diggs in world news. The one I put on digg, I put in business/finance and you are right, today it is coming up file 404
**the soul would have no rainbow if the eyes had no tears**