Ron Paul backers tangle with state GOP over caucus reports
By Jo Mannies
03/21/2008 12:18 pm
Debbie Hopper, national field director for U.S. Rep. Ron Paul, R-Texas (and who is continuing his campaign for president), called Thursday to recount a contentious encounter that she had just had with Missouri Republican Party executive director Jared Craighead.
Hopper said that she had gone to the state party’s headquarters in Jefferson City on Thursday to look at the reports turned in by the various sites’ chairmen from last Saturday’s caucuses.
Craighead refused to allow Hopper to look at the reports. Hopper noted that next Tuesday is the deadline for challenging the reports’ content, or the proposed delegates approved at the caucuses and then OKed by the state party.
Hopper said she’s concerned that the state Republican Party is out to disenfranchise the Paul delegates selected at those caucuses, or that some of the caucus chairmen.
To briefly recap:
The Republican caucuses were held last Saturday around the state to select state delegates for the state GOP congressional caucuses in April and the state convention in May. (The state delegates help select the presidential delegates, and help shape the state party’s issues platform,)
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We all need to keep spreading the word about this.
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Longtime Republican
As a longtime republican, what annoys me is that the Republicans keep calling Ron Paul Republicans "RINOs", when the real RINO is McCain.
McCain in 2001 considered switching parties and in 2004 almost became Kerry's running mate.
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/24/us/politics/24mccain.html?...
At least when RP ran for president in 88 he was a libertarian (closer to republican) and maintained his registration as a republican...
You said it! and I agree
Libera me, let the truth break, what my fears make--Leslie Phillips
But that man should play the tyrant over God, and find Him a better man than himself, is astonishing drama indeed!~~D. Sayers
There is no difference between an authoritarian government from the right or the left...F. A.Schaeffer
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Fed-Up
Let's make this public...
Dave Helling
816-234-4656
dhelling@kcstar.com
He's the guy that wrote this article on 3/17 covering the delegate convention for the Kansas City Star (the one with the really bad photo of Dr. Paul)
http://www.kansascity.com...
Perhaps he'll write another article about the dirty tricks the party's playing.
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Here's the letter I sent:
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Dave,
I appreciate you covering the the recent GOP convention where the Ron
Paul supporters showed up en masse. I thought you might be interested
to know that this story is just heating up. I recommend you check out
this article to see what the party is trying to pull:
http://www.stltoday.com/blogzone/political-fix/political-fix...
Two points about the article you wrote: the photo of Ron Paul was not
his best (you may not have been the one to select it). Also, there's
mention that what happened in Missouri isn't happening nationwide. I
can't speak for everywhere, but I know that here at the convention in
Georgia, a lot of Ron Paul supporters have been showing up. For
evidence of these check out this non Ron Paul site:
http://www.peachpundit.com/2008/03/14/attention-county-repub...
http://www.peachpundit.com/2008/03/14/attention-ron-paul-sup...
Good Comment
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Good grief! who is that
obnoxious Erick CREEP who wrote that in the Peach Pundit??
calling us Ron Paul supporters:
"... this band of pseudo-constitutional purists, hard core libertarians without a party, neo-nazis, anti-semites, Christian fringe true believers, and nutters wreck havoc at party conventions trying to undo a legitimate vote of the people."
Obviously only a McInsane supporter's vote can be legitimate.
And we ARE The People.
Ron Paul or Bust.
Any response to your comment?
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Judicial Committee?
Be sure to read the local GOP bylaws for the proper procedure. My guess is that if there is a process such as a GOP judicial committee (probably at state level) and you haven't used the process internally, the government-provided judge won't like your complaint. They usually like you to have exhausted all avenues, first.
That may mean that an actual member of the GOP in the state will have to file the complaint, rather than a representative of the campaign.
(All I know is that the Libertarian Party of California has a judicial committee to decide such matters, and there are penalties if you take disputes to the government. I don't know about your situation.)
IMissLiberty
IMissLiberty
Missouri Ron Paul Campaign Needs Legal Advice
Posted by PaulineDisciple on ronpaulforums
Please read this article to get the background:
http://www.stltoday.com/blogzone/political-fix/political-fix...
I would like to have some advice from anyone with a legal background. The Ron Paul headquarters of Kansas City is planning on submitting an injunction for the Missouri state GOP by Tuesday morning. We would like some advice on how it should be worded.
Thank you in advance,
A Jackson County Delegate wanting to know if he is being disenfranchised
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=129776
“I have joined your revolution and I’m proud to be part of what you want to do.” - Ron Paul
“I have joined your revolution and I’m proud to be part of what you want to do.” - Ron Paul
This is something different
I hope the people of MO are doing ok. I see a lot of pics about the flooding. My prayers are with you, guys.
"He who exercises government by means of his virtue may be compared to the north polar star, which keeps its place and all the stars turn towards it." Confucius
"He who exercises government by means of his virtue may be compared to the north polar star, which keeps its place and all the stars turn towards it." Confucius
I think any county delegate can ask to see the
records. I don't think joe 6 pack will be allowed to see them.
They're playing chicken
Fortune Favors the Bold
If the Paul campaign files a successful legal challenge, I believe the result might be loss of ballot access for the GOP in Missouri. The Paul campiagn might back off.
We should make it clear that WE won't, and if they don't file the challenge, we will. I'll call the NJ ACLU president tomorrow. I'm sure they would love to take the case if Craighead pulls a fast one.
Fortune Favors the Bold
You are right. Mess with Ron But don't mess with US!
Ron is staying back and being the nice guy. Haven't we seen that again and again.
He says, "It's not me - it's the message. I didn't do this, my grassroots did."
Who paid for the NH recount? We did!
Who put radio ads out. We did.
Made banners, froze on street corners and etc etc.
WE DID!
So we'll do this, too.
You never lose until you give up. We will never give up. We will win.
I would like to think we could get some of these bastards in jail. Might have to let a few tokers out so there is room. After all they only hurt themselves. These others hurt us all.
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Damage is being done. File with a judge for force a viewing.
Even without a lawyer.
You can go before a judge explain why you need an emergency ruling.
Just pay court costs.
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Don't we have a Grassroots Lawyer? Surely one lawyer likes RP.
Maybe lawyers don't have souls or hearts?
Hang on. Aren't 98% of the politicians lawyers!
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Contact Edwin Vieira PhD, JD or perhaps......
Larry Becraft, JD. Edwin Vieira is a constitutional attorney with a great deal of published work. Larry Becraft is well known in the "Tax Honesty" movement and has sucessfully defended a number of individuals against that tyrranical quasi-government agency known as the I.R.S.. I do not know how much background either has with election law and the individuals states delegate processes. However, they are both very sharp, very good before a judge and may consider taking this case in Missouri. It certainly could not hurt having a high profile attorney.
Then she should challenge them
immediately!!
Mathew 5:9 Blessed are the peacemakers: for they shall be called the children of God.
Never mind
I see this won't work
Mathew 5:9 Blessed are the peacemakers: for they shall be called the children of God.
If it happens
people must make an example of it by initiating appropriate actions. We cannot allow this guy manipulate the results and let him off the hook easily because others would only follow suit knowing they can get away with it. Otherwise the efforts of our fellow patriots in MO will only go to waste.
"He who exercises government by means of his virtue may be compared to the north polar star, which keeps its place and all the stars turn towards it." Confucius
"He who exercises government by means of his virtue may be compared to the north polar star, which keeps its place and all the stars turn towards it." Confucius
GOP will lose much support
If the MO GOP pulls something with the Ron Paul delegates, it will probably mean a serious decline in GOP spporters in MO. I know I'll let the MO GOP I'll no longer support them.
They've pretty much
alienated the loyal GOP membership. I'm even helping the Dems in their attempts to "get" McInsane! Don't ya just love it?
start a e-mail bomb to craighead
Start calling, emailing, snail mailing , let them know you want Debbie as well as the genral public to review these reports. Craighead probably knows that his reign is comming to an end.
Paper(s) Please...
The child within', We see the Truth!!
Remember the past as you look forward to today...
What you believe to be true, is true to you... "until you change your mind"
F U "Craig Jarredhead!"
F U "Craig Jarredhead!"
Has Craighead broken any laws?
I am trying to find a law that he has broken but I'm not having much luck so far. I did find the following at http://www.moga.mo.gov/statutes/chapters/chap115.htm :
Caucuses, delegates for national conventions.
115.776. The state party organization which is the state organization recognized by the national organization of that established political party shall, after the primary and before the national convention, conduct a series of caucuses culminating in congressional and state conventions. Delegates to the national conventions shall be chosen at the congressional district and state conventions pursuant to rules established by the political parties.
(L. 1998 S.B. 709, A.L. 1999 H.B. 676)
I also found the Missouri Republican State Committee bylaws at http://www.mogop.org/docs/mrsc_bylaws_07.pdf :
Under the "Removal" section it says "...any court of competent jurisdiction has found that the member has engaged in an act of moral turpitude, that the member has acted in a manner contrary to the objectives of the MRSC as defined in the Bylaws of the MRSC, or that the member has prevented the conduct of MRSC business in an orderly manner. In any case, the movants must state that in their prudent judgment the actions complained of meet the following standard: that the actions would cause a loss of confidence by the public in the proper functioning of the committee as a statutorily functioning body, and/or that the actions complained of would negatively affect the State Committee’s ability to pursue the objectives of the State Committee as stated in the Bylaws."
Further down in the by-laws, you can request a "Special Meeting" with signatures of 29 party members (i.e. All the Ron Paul supporters) to address the issue of Craighead withholding information.
"Section 2. Special Meetings
a. Special meetings of the MRSC may be called at any time by the State Chairman, by the Vice Chairman acting in the capacity of State Chairman, or by any twenty-nine (29) members of the MRSC who sign a notice for such a meeting.
b. Only such new business as has been set forth in the notice calling for a special meeting shall be transacted at said special meeting."
You Must Always Take Three Things With You
I wish everyone would wake up and realize that the establishment GOP will use every trick in the book, legal or not, to stop the Ron Paul types from regtaining control of the party.
You must always take three things with you when you confront the State or National GOP Headquarters: 1. Bring witnesses, 2. Bring camera's and 3. Bring legal representation. Never back down from an issue that you believe to be true and important and keep demanding answers. Start out nice and then keep getting tougher. Put them on the defensive and keep them back on their heels. Start filming at the side walk and don't shut it off until you are back in the car. Bring a get-in-your-face-New York Attorney that means business or a young attorney that just past the bar. And, don't take no for an answer. Use your cells phones to call in the local press and then wait fifteen or twenty minutes and call the police to report a riot. That should make the six o'clock news. The American people want someone to stand up to the establishment and demand answers. We can not afford to just roll over on any of the issues. This Country is about to collapse and this is no time to pussy foot around. We need to pull up our shorts, roll up our sleeves and take firm action or you will look back very soon and wish that you had.
I'm very much in agreement about bringing a video camera!
It is amazing to see the change in behavior in government officials with intentions to do wrong to citizens.
Ron, Are You A Member Of The Eastern Oregon Miners Assoc.?
Ron, are you a member of the Eastern Oregon Miners Assoc. based in Baker City??
Steve