McCain 'breaks official spending cap'

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Republican presumptive nominee John McCain has ignored official campaign expenditure limits and has overspent millions in the primary.

Reporting today - McCain has spent $58.4 million where only legally entitled to spend $54 million...

All of his public financing trouble started because McCain used public financing as collateral on a bank loan..

The problem is even more complicated than this. McCain used the matching funds eligibility to avoid having to collect signatures to qualify for ballot access in several states, including Ohio, Pennsylvania and Delaware.

Those state wins must be voided according to most experts on the issue. That means he does not have the necessary delegates.

Ironic that it was his law (McCain-Feingold) that got him in this mess.
McCain broke the law...

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Now You Know

Now you know why the deal makers (in the smoke filled rooms) wanted all of the republican candidates to withdraw from the race.
They were trying to keep McCain from over spending to avoid this real challenge.
They just did not get the other candidates to quit campaigning quick enough to protect him from his own law.
We need to fill Ron Paul's war chest so he can continue getting his message out and who knows what the September convention results could be.
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Examine his record over the

years. What does the existence of a "law" mean to the likes of John McCain anyway? Since he has no difficulty violating his constitutional oath, I can't imagine that a mere statute would represent any significant barrier to his desires or plans. I've read the letters from the FEC. Yes he is indeed in violation of the law and no, it's no accident.

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SGP- ...

What does this mean?: "Chairman of the commission David Mason, however, warned McCain last month that his withdrawal request had not yet been granted. "
What would prevent a withdrawl request from being granted?- and if it IS in fact granted eventually- does that fact end his problems over this? leaving him with solid legal footing?

He has 2 problems with this

He has 2 problems with this issue.

1: If the FEC allows Mccain to withdraw from FED matching funds he will be revoked from many delegates in states that he was able to be on the ballot without the required number of signatures therefore he will lose any delegates for him in those states.

2: If the FEC doesn't release him from matching funds he will be capped at 50 million dollars and will kill his run for president because he will not have the money to compete.

Dr. Steve Parent

okay...thank you : ) one last thing...

Will our people need to re-do the delegate process in those places- or will the positions somehow be distributed in another way- or do they just disappear altogether?

No the delegates will still

No the delegates will still remain but they should be bound to NOT vote for Mccain at the convention.

Dr. Steve Parent

CAUTION: Delegates Rule

Don't get cocky. Be tactful.

If any outside party tries to force the GOP in those states to invalidate the elections, because the state primary was (or should be) invalidated, there may be blowback from the state delegates saying "you can't do that, we still vote for McCain" just to show they can.

As we've seen, the primaries are, at best, a taxpayer-funded straw poll for the benefit of the GOP. It tells them what people want, but whether they use the information to inform their nominating process, or not, is up to them.

It is irrelevant whether they retroactively pull McCain from the ballot; the delegates in September have the results in hand, and will decide on their own.

I don't think it will help Ron Paul for his own supporters to run with this, now, and I'm hoping the Democrats won't, yet, either.

However, in September and possibly at the state conventions in these states, it should be pointed out that McCain is likely to have real trouble from the Democrats over this issue, and that perhaps it would be a good idea to keep our options open (in the states) and consider Ron Paul (at national) as a principled alternative.

Invalidating these ballots leaves the issue in the hands of the delegates: exactly where it is, already.

IMissLiberty

IMissLiberty

Is this in the msm yet?

Is this in the msm yet?

I really did not want to

I really did not want to post in here but i have to do so because i can see most people do not know how this all works so i will explain it.

The problem is even more complicated than this. McCain used the matching funds eligibility to avoid having to collect signatures to qualify for ballot access in several states, including Ohio, Pennsylvania and Delaware.

Those state wins must be voided according to most experts on the issue. That means he does not have the necessary delegates.

Ironic that it was his law (McCain-Feingold) that got him in this mess.
McCain broke the law...

I was one of the people that have addressed this and did so on record on the radio.

You people can not wait for the FEC to rule on this.

The delegates in these states need to file the motion at their conventions for Mccain to be revoked of all his delegates in those states for failure to comply with election ballot state law requirements.

Find out if your state allowed Mccain to be on the ballot without obtaining petition signtures.

Dr. Steve Parent

Thank you Dr. Parent......

Can you please post this as a new forum topic? I feel this is important information that must be spread to all delegates through DP and other Ron Paul forums.

Latinos for Ron Paul

Ron Paul 2012 for Peace

Latin i must decline and i

Latin i must decline and i am sorry but i have no desire to be here and argue any longer im tired and do not feel i need to defend myself for my information speaks for itself.

Someone sent me an email and asked me if i would respond to this post so i did.

For a while i am done here sorry.

Dr. Steve Parent

Thank you for your honesty

May I start the forum myself using your words?

Latinos for Ron Paul

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Latin you may use anything i

Latin you may use anything i have posted and i will even help you write things if you choose. I said i am not gone just burned out here.

Dr. Steve Parent

Thank you Dr. Parent

Latinos for Ron Paul

Ron Paul 2012 for Peace

Well for those of us who are

Well for those of us who are not arguing with you and have just posed a question in support of your post ... would you answer us?

Yes i will answer your

Yes i will answer your questions and will help you in any way i can.

You have not lost me and i will continue the radio interviews i have scheduled and the conference calls i have scheduled and i will answer any email i receive.

I am just tired of daily paul and i just wish we had an ignore button so we could cut through the chase of all these lies and division of people that really are not here to support Ron Paul. It is a waste of precious time that we are running out of.

I am addressing hundreds and sometimes thousands of ppeople every day now trying to prepare them for their upcoming conventions.

I feel my time is better spend doing these things rather than defend my position when i believe my posts and facts speak for themselves.

Dr. Steve Parent

Thanks, SGP

This was my question as it related to your post on McCain-Feingold and ballot signatures, etc.:

That is very very interesting ... what do you think our odds are as far as getting anywhere with this?

Also - where could I find this information for my state, do you know? Would it be through the Secretary of State office?

Very intriguing ... thanks!

Check your sec of state and

Check your sec of state and check the by laws for the GOP in your state

Call your state chairman and your county chairman

Dr. Steve Parent

UN-ACCEPTABLE!!!!!!!!!!! And

UN-ACCEPTABLE!!!!!!!!!!!

And SGP, thanks for not replying to my email sir...

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What email? Please re send

What email? Please re send it to newspaper4paul@hotmail.com

I am receiving over 300 emails a day now i am sorry if i missed your and any other people i may have missed.

Dr. Steve Parent

REALLY?

That is very very interesting ... what do you think our odds are as far as getting anywhere with this?

Also - where could I find this information for my state, do you know? Would it be through the Secretary of State office?

Very intriguing ... thanks!

link?

link?

Do you have a link to where you got this?

Needs to be dugg and pressure placed on those regions to adress this. How many delegates are being questioned here- anyone know off hand?

Weeee!

Are these states fighting this? Will Congress or someone hold him accountable for the law?

Mathew 5:9 Blessed are the peacemakers: for they shall be called the children of God.

what a shock. >yawn<

so he's inept and someone on his staff got stupid. good deal!

ironic and uncanny

It's just so ironic and uncanny. McCain is a poster-boy for what's wrong with American political systems. He wants to have his bread buttered on both sides.

"We don't have to start a brand new revolution...All we have to do is restore the original Constitution." -Ron Paul

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go Ron Paul

I like Ron Paul.
I do not trust John McCain.

Liberty is our campaigns gift to the world it is our manifest destiny.
Freedom is a movement who's time has come. Our campaign will lead world wide freedom.