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Anybody getting their gardens ready?

I've been tilling my gardens most of the day.

Getting ready to plant several kinds of beans/peas, tomatoes, peppers, some herbs, sunflowers, radishes, cucumbers, watermelons, muscadines...


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Lots of great gardening tips here! I also know that grapevines and roses and garlic are all very happy growing together, in case anyone can apply that info to their garden.

Now here's a new question: anyone have info on container-only gardening?

There are those who rent or have a postage-stamp-sized yard or no yard at all -- or worse yet, don't know how long they'll be able to live in the homes they're currently in. So, in such situations, with very limited space and the possible need for mobility of one's own garden, what can be grown, and how best to plan this out?

In such limited circumstances, rows of wide-spreading plants just won't do; so, which veggies/fruits do well growing vertically and in isolated pots? What would be your thoughts in terms of limited crops -- that is, if you could only grow, say, 10 different items in 10 different containers...what would they be?

I'm doing a mostly container

I'm doing a mostly container garden this year since I'm trying to sell my house over the spring/summer. It really hurts to have a couple acres, knowing the trouble we are in for, but not being able to turn the grass to make a huge garden. At least I can move this one and start a big thing with greenhouses and everything at the next place.

In any case, I'd love to hear what people recommend for a container garden. I've never done one before since I've always had ample land. My tomatoes, broccoli, beans and flowers (selling the house, making it look pretty) are coming along nicely inside right now. My plan was to put the beans in the ground by some fencing to climb and put the tomatoes and broccoli in containers in good sun. I have three bags of potting soil and stones for drainage but I'd like to know how much compost/good dirt to put in before it becomes a drainage problem and if I should go beyond "blood and bone" for fertilizer. Should containers get more, less or the same amount of light? Is mulching the container really important, if so, what kind would you recommend? I'm using heritage seeds and trying to do it completely organic.

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Container gardening

I do some of that myself (and some in-ground). Tomatoes are an obvious and good choice, as well as compact cucumbers, almost any lettuces, celery, and almost any herbs --- chives, basil, rosemary, thyme, etc. Peas you could also grow, using a tomato cage for them to climb up. I would stay away from any kind of root vegetable (carrots, turnips, beets, etc) as they require too much space and depth to make it practical in a pot.

As for berries, strawberries of the smaller varieties can be grown, although you probably won't get pounds of fruit that way; most other berry plants, like blueberries and raspberries, are just too large and spreading, or too demanding.

Container gardening

Check out http://www.earthbox.com

I bought one at a local garden center and plan to purchase more. I put them out on my deck.

Gardener's Supply Company

at www.gardeners.com has lots of good ideas for small spaces, hanging upside down tomato plants, all-in-one grow kits, container mix and containers, etc.

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Has anyone in a sunny but

Has anyone in a sunny but cooler climate ever had citrus or fruit trees in a greenhouse?

Theoretically how big do any citrus trees have to be to have fruit?

Size isn't relevant

There are dwarf citrus trees around.

What's more important is that they get the right temperatures, water levels, and fertilizers.

BIG CITRUS SECRET: alfalfa pellets (yes, the 1 x 1/4 inch type that you feed horses) are the best citrus fertilizer. Simply spread them around the tree base every 3 months or so. As the tree gets watered, the water leaches through the alfalfa similar to how tea is brewed, and the results are absorbed into the roots and then the trees, and the resulting fruit is bigger and juicier. Our orange trees have produced average 12-16oz oranges, ans have topped at 22-oz monsters!

How Does one cheaply rip up

How Does one cheaply rip up there yard to garden? Anyone?

I have a large backyard. I would like to make 1/2 of it into a garden..

But I heard it is expensive. Can I rent one of those miniature tractors?


This should be done the fall

This should be done the fall before you intend to plant but one could do it starting right about now, particularly if you introduce worms. The easiest way to do this manually is to figure out the dimensions you want and mark it out. Then dig a one shovel width and depth trench along one of the edges. Once you have the trench dug, you flip the grass into the trench along the line. This will fill the original trench, dirt side up, and leave you a new trench to do the same thing. Keep doing this until your entire garden area is done. If you do it right, wait until the last frost and plant the garden, making sure to use a cheep mulch to limit the number of weeds that come up. For mulch, wood chips are good and relatively inexpensive. Hay is probably better since it will break down quicker. Plant an annual mulching legume somewhere on your property, you won't need to pay for mulch again and it will act as a natural fertilizer (harvest the seeds if heritage before you use it as mulch the following year). For the first year or two (longer if you want), place a layer of newspaper (no color, only B&W because the color ink is poison) under the chosen mulch to minimize the number of weeds. The mulch will minimize weeding, help keep the ground moist, like forest litter, and break down to provide nutrients year after year. I would recommend introducing worms into the soil, a little thing that makes a huge difference in time. They aerate the soil, break down the grass/dead roots and produce huge amounts of fertilizer. Essentially, the worms work the soil so you don't have to.

Once fall rolls around and you've harvested all your produce, you can remove the mulch, work in you're compost and make big raised beds. Put the mulch back on the beds for winter and you will be all set for the next spring. If you keep mulching, never walk on the beds, leave the roots (except root crops obviously), rotate your crops (with a green manure legumes mixed in) and make sure the worms are doing well you will never need to rework the soil (the mulch, worms and legumes in the rotation will provide great compost) and eventually you won't need to weed. Its the lazy and cheap way to produce a great garden over time. If you have the money, installing a drip irrigation system will further reduce work after the initial investment of time and money.

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raised gardens

is an option. You basically set it right on top of the lawn. I'm doing mine on top of some rocks that are in our yard. We built a box frame, no bottom, filled it in with garden soil and compost.

You could hire someone to rototill it,

Or, you could do like I have done (basically lazy, and no money to hire someone), do a lasagne garden. Google lasagne garden, it is where you just put down many sheets of newspapers and cover them with layers and layers of mulch, and then plant in the mulch. By the next year, you will have no lawn, just a garden.

I live in the high plains, in a drought

and even though a lasagne garden works anywhere, it is the only option I have because we don't have electricity, and our well water is gotten with a generator, GAS. So, a regular garden would take too much water. And our soil here didn't even have earthworms and is very hard, like cement. But after making lasagne gardens,the soil is nice and soft and keeping mulch on them year round, and planting very close together, we can grow so much more, with little water, the mulch keeping the soil moister longer, and now we have earthworms galore. My kids think I am nuts, whenever I dig in my garden for root crops, I bother some earthworms and speak nicely to them while replacing them. LOL

Raised beds

What I did was put down sheets of newspapers and a weed barrier sheet (you can get them at garden centers), then built my raised beds on top.

That is sooo cool. I am

That is sooo cool. I am going to check it out! It sounds delicious from the get go!!

wow what a concept...

I'm going to try that. I am moving soon and don't want to do too much double effort ...


you can rent one

ideally it would have already been turned in fall.
wet soil can be clumpy (bad, careful if you have clay soil)

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and if you wish


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Seedlings are sprouting...

in my sun room now. This is my first attempt at a garden so I am kind of flying blind. Everything is doing well except the watermelons. Does anyone know if it takes watermelons longer to germinate? My corn, beans, tomatoes and cucumbers are all popping up now. I put the seeds in soil about 2 weeks ago.

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It does take a little longer for them to sprout! I just had it happen to me and I'm trying to rescue it. Patience :)

Check the seed package...

All mine give the germination time frame.

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To Lion and Lamb: Carrots love tomatoes!

Book on companion planting! Also I plant marigolds in between and around my garden!


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You can also do it the easy ay by making raised bed plots and planting in there right over the top. It can also add a dimension to your landscaping at the same time (and save on mowing!)

I'd also recommend a lifting fork. Not one of those thin-tined things used for hay, but a thick-tined fork that can get into the soil and really break it up. Not as fast as a rototiller, but if you have rocky soil, then that plus a good spade is the better route.

Compost, compost, compost!

One more thing

Check with your local zoo for composted manure. Believe me, composted hippo $#!t is fabulous fertilizer! Some places actually give it away if you have the means to haul it (pickup trucks work best!).

Or just use shredded dollar

Or just use shredded dollar bills --- soon to be about the same thing.


And we are adding another large one this year! Last year we just planted what we could consume fresh but this year I will be canning and freezing!

My retreiver guards the garden from rabbits, squirrels etc.. and is very serious about it...hoping she wont have to guard against the neighbors raiding it!

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hey mart!!!!!

come help me do mine! I have 2 greenhouses with hydroponics systems.. i'v never used them!

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Awww man...

.. wish I could! Sounds all high-tech..


Here's a good guide

www.squarefootgardening.com-buy and read the book

marigolds and the onion family stop most pests.

Also here for some unique fruit choices: