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Anybody getting their gardens ready?

I've been tilling my gardens most of the day.

Getting ready to plant several kinds of beans/peas, tomatoes, peppers, some herbs, sunflowers, radishes, cucumbers, watermelons, muscadines...


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Tomato trellis expansion...

Last week I built trellises for my tomato plants out of bamboo canes from my property.

Each trellis contains four tomato plants lined up in a row. Each trellis consists of two vertical 6' canes on each end with the first horizontal pair of 6' canes about 12" off the ground and about 4" apart.

Today I am going to add a second set of horizontal canes at about 24" high because my plants are about 3' high now... =)

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Is it too late to plant

Is it too late to plant tomatoes?

I've had friends tell me May is too late to plant tomatoes, and I was curious if any tomato growers in here had advice. Most of my April plantings were cabbages and pumpkins.

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In the Deep South...

.. and similarly warm climates you can plant a second round of tomato's in late May or even June (zone 8 -- zone 7 might be pushing it).

For more northern climates May-early June is the only window you have...

I'm in Texas in Zone 8.

I'm in Texas in Zone 8. Thanks for the info.

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ME or FL?

Just go to your local veggie garden store and ask them. I just bought 6 - 6" tomato plants for $2.00 as a start. Here in the northeast, the planting mostly starts this coming weekend.

No, not too late to plant

Don't know where you live, but May is a perfect month to plant tomatoes and other heat-loving veggies (corn, squash, etc.). The soil needs to be warm so everything will grow.

You bet...

We fully planted our main garden last weekend. This year we put in zucchini, spaghetti squash, pattypan, eggplant, cucumbers, tomatoes, musk melon, bell peppers, jalapeno peppers, cayenne peppers, cabbage, radish, onions, lettuce, garlic and basil. We also added a much smaller herb garden this time around for things like parsley, sage, chives, scallions, cilantro, rosemary etc. I'll be finishing up the herb garden today.Let the watering and weeding begin... ;-)

"First they ignore you. Then they ridicule you. Then they fight you. Then you win". --Mahatma Gandhi

"First they ignore you. Then they ridicule you. Then they fight you. Then you win". --Mahatma Gandhi

Nice garden =)

Hmm, what's a "pattypan"? Off to google...

Hehe, pattypan is that ufo shaped squashed: =P


Thanks, we really put alot of effort in each year.

re: pattypan... Funny looking but tasty... :-)

"First they ignore you. Then they ridicule you. Then they fight you. Then you win". --Mahatma Gandhi

"First they ignore you. Then they ridicule you. Then they fight you. Then you win". --Mahatma Gandhi

I think I'm just gonna

Grow a huge pot pant and get so stoned I forget that the world is dying, Damn I forgot I don't use drugs :( Maybe I can learn to.

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i have just added

3 grapevines
1 mulberry tree
a system of grow lights
powered by a microarray wind turbine.

all green baby!

You are growing...

... grapevines and a mulberry tree indoors with grow lights? Or, the grapes and mulberry are outside and you are growing other stuff with the grow lights?

I defend...

.. your right to do that. =P

growing gojis

I have to pass on a great source for perennial berries (and other great edible landscaping plants as well) -- www.onegreenworld.com. The other day I purchased honey berries, currents, gooseberries, and goji berry plants from them. I chose these because I live in New England and they are all super hardy. The goji in particular is a super addition to the garden. It grows 8 - 10 feet tall with vines up to 20 feet (which makes the plant easy to multiply by burying) and tolerates drought conditions and is fine with average soil. The goji berry (just do a google search) is a super nutrient dense food which blows away all other berries. This particular company stops shipping I think May 10th ---

Yeah goji's sound great

but on the site it said it was zone 6 for gojis. I am assuming from your name you are in VT. I grew up in NH and it was Zone 4. Doesn't sound like goji's will grow there.


Great site. I'm saving a link to it.

I'm sorry

if this comes across as being rude, but can we kill this post? It is a great subject for another site, but does it have relevance here? There are pIenty of ways to chit-chat on the web, let's keep this site focused on Dr. Paul, the message and the movement that has come to be. I know this will bump it up, for my sake I hope for the last time. Thanks



"Fascism should rightly be called Corporatism as it is a merger of state and corporate power." -- Benito Mussolini - The "Father of Fascism"

Perhaps THE first line of defense against threats to liberty is the ability of the People to provide for themselves the basics of existence; food and water being perhaps the two most imminent basic needs.

Being dependent on corporations for access, manufacture and transportation of our food poses a great danger to our liberty and freedom. At a whim our government and corporate masters can cause the grocery stores to be empty in a single day resulting in us groveling and begging at their feet instead of resisting their tyranny.

The more of us who have developed the infrastructure and skills to grow our own food locally the greater our power to resist oppression and the greater our ability to fight to win our liberty and freedom back.

In general, the food provided in the grocery stores and in the restaurants is incredibly less nutritious than food grown in one's own gardens from heirloom and organic seed. Gardening is very good exercise also. Better fed people in better physical shape have more stamina and their minds work better and are just more effective in whatever efforts they are engaged in.

Gardening is QUITE apropos to Dr. Paul and what he is trying to accomplish and gardening strengthens our ability to support him in his efforts.

Any counterpoints? =)

I'm sure Dr. Paul would

I'm sure Dr. Paul would approve of your retort. I think it's the people who don't bother to read into the content of this thread, or who have no appreciation of food that comes from the soil by the careful application of heart, hand, and mind, who fail to appreciate the bountiful wisdom to be gained in this forum.

Let's consider Dr. Paul to be the Gardener of the Body Politic.

Things are only impossible until they are not.
-- Jean Luc Picard

Things are only impossible until they are not.
-- Jean Luc Picard

Every now and then..

.. somebody chimes up in this forum topic about how it's not relevant. But they've never argued about it very long.

I can understand how at first glance it seems off topic due to so many people taking grocery stores being chock full of food 24/7 for granted...


If you don't want to participate...Just blow by it...This thread is important to some of us who want a self sufficient life style..Even though i hate to garden..I 've learned alot just in case...

Remember...Don't sweat the small stuff.

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I'm putting in a garden again! I haven't for ten years because the neighbor's trees have been blocking most of the sun in my downtown backyard. I had an idea. I'm going to the south side of the house, up front. It's in full view of the sidewalk and just 5' to 30' away from it, but I'm hoping that people won't pick the veggies before I do. I'm excited!

Still got to get a water faucet out there this week and prepare the soil. I'll pick up all my favorite plants on sale next weekend.

Get some..

.. rottweilers? ;)

What all are you gonna try to grow?


Looks like the 1,000th post is going to happen today. =)

Thanks everybody!

I hope I win....

I really want that Twinkie you promised to the winner!


.. I'm not sure who was 1,000. =P


Dew berries are

getting ripe and I've already picked about 2 gallons on my property. My corn is 1 foot and I just put the bean seeds in next to them. I'll be planting the sqash soon. I have a problem with the armadillos rooting in my corn so I will be hunting tonight. My turnips look great, I just thinned them and had some nice greens with my supper and still have a large bag left to finish off. My watermelons and cantelopes look ok. My purple hulls look great and should start making in a week or two. I have a lot of okra but they are only about 4 inches tall now. I will be picking my first banana peppers in couple of days but my tomatos are running late and no blooms yet. My potatos are lacking so I may dig up what I have and replant in a different location. Mmmm, cream potatos and cornbread. ; )
My honey bees have swarmed 4 times now. The last one was real small so I don't think there will be any more this year. I hived the second swarm in a makeshift hive I made and am waiting on my new hive kit to arrive. I will be harvesting my first honey from the original hive in a couple of days.
All in all I would say I'm doing ok. My wife and I went down to the pond and caught some fish this morning. But I already have a freezer full so I just let them go until I really need them.
On the down side. I do obviously live in the country and I killed two snakes by the pond last week and had a runnin with a rattle snake two days ago that was about 5 - 6 feet long and as big around as my forearm. He was scairy to say the least, so now it is a rule to carry a gun when anyone goes walking because we are in snake season. Other than that and the armadillos, life is grand.

Creamed potatoes

and cornbread? Never heard of it, but it sounds wonderful. Recipe anyone?

I've also never heard of dewberries, but by the look of them in the photographs they would make a great syrup to pour over vanilla ice cream.