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Freedom in the Banana Republic breakdown

This is done over 4 years ago, I have left the country since then due to my work. Just for you future expats to consider. I will also make another write up on more than half of the Caribbean in a few days.

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I wanted to save this until only the hardcore freedom lovers were left on this site. I dont mean to detract from Ron, ( I Have been a fan for 8 years.) But I have finally found freedom and peace.

You want to know where some of the most free countries are. Check out Interpol and find out where they suspect the most amount of intl criminals are? Find those top 10 places, and visit, You will most likely find freedom...

As I promised several weeks ago That I will show people what freedom means in the DOMINICAN REPUBLIC. This maybe a little long winded, BUT I will list the pros and cons....

This country has about 9 million people on an island that is shared with haiti. THIS IS A BIG ISLAND. in excess of 12hours to drive from the most northern point of the D R to get to the eastern tip. It is lush and tropical/sub tropical (including lots of mountains and even a 10,000 foot, on occasion snow capped peak, even a small dessert) and almost completly self independant/sustainable except for FUEL, Vehicles, and rebarb. Murder Rate is much lower than the states. Govt intrusion is minimal. Weather is great and the north side of the island does not get hit directly by hurricanes. The mountains do a good job of breaking them up...

First I want people to understand that alittle corruption at the police level is a good thing and provides alot of freedom.... As opposed to the corruption in the states at the politician level. THE police here are very underpaid and not highly motivated....

In example, You can Speed down the road (NO RADAR GUNS), drinking a BEER(NO BREATHALIZERS) Get stopped(UNLIKELY UNLESS YOU ARE IN TRAFFIC because most police dont have CARS PLUS your an american, ALL WITH AN EXPIRED LISCENSE) and the Police officer instructs you to pay from 2 beers worth to 20 dollars US in a bribe.) His interest not in doing paperwork and if he doesnt get paid if he turns you in...

IF THIS WERE TO HAPPEN IN THE STATES, YOUR FEELING OF FEAR AND HOPLESSNESS would almost overwhelm you in tears.... detention TIME most likely.

I have traveled all over the country, and CAN actually reccommend one area, the state of Puerto Plata. If you live within a half an hour to the city or live within a half an hour of caberete and sosua, Most things are convenient to get to and public transport is excellent but crowded around here. If you are going out to the country you should be at your destination by 9 pm. ALTHOUGH SANTIAGO is a clean (MY FAVORITE) beautiful city, they have no ocean and is surrounded by mountains, it has a small smog issue if the trade winds are not kicking. Can find anything and everything there at Dominican prices. ALSO THE MOST B E A U TIFul women on the island, ranging from red haired green eyes(very RARE), Blond hair green or blue eyes(UNCOMMON), olive skin black hair to the milk chocolate beauties.... Night life is good also...

Cost of living, IF you have everything paid for, HOUSE, CAR, and what not, YOU CAN LIVE comfortably for about 1000 a month for 2 people. You would have to shop where the dominicans shop, although you can just about find anything you want in SANTIAGO that you would find in the states, That adds to your fuel bill.
You can buy GRANDE Beers which is like a 40oz beer for 2 bucks and it is a very decent beer. in the tourist areas or the night bars/ discos much more expensive. THE COLDEST BEERS ive had in the world are here.
If you live in a DOMINICAN NEIGHBORHOOD, You can have 2 beers half a chicken with 2 sides, rice potateos french fries, ect for about 6 or 7 bucks. (READ FED AND DRUNK FOR 10 bucks MAX EATING OUT) I am a sailboater, take it from me thats value......

THERE IS A BIG BLACK MARKET here, not paying taxes and what not.

NOW, FIREARMS ARE LEGAL, in your house, BUT you must have a carry permit if it is in your car or your person. Believe me, I see alot of guns in the pants, not concealed, in the country. Cities not so much at all. THEY JUST PASSED the law RECENTLY the liscensing of firearms.

There is a ONE time property tax when you purchase/register your home. It is suspected that they WILL EVENTUALLY go to a yearly prop tax...

Permits are resonable, and most people build without them with no problem. ALLTHOUGH I WOULD reccomend you follow the letter of the law for this one.

You can have a bottle in public walking down the street,(EXCEPT HOLIDAYS, where they prefer cans or cups for public safety at the beaches) without fear of fines or harassment.

The country is not solely reliant on the US, as there are TONS more of euro's with europeans and canadians that come to this country every year than the americans.

There are alot of expat communities around, BUT as expats do, THEY try to profit from each other as the cost of property is about double or triple than in the dominican areas. I prefer to live in the dominican area anyways.

AS for TAXES, NO TAXES on gambling winnings. For a foreigner working here, a 10% income tax because I dont partake in the govt pension program associated with my job. Corporation taxes are only paid by larger legit corps, as MOST business here even in tourist areas have no TAX NUMBER.
As I understand it with paying taxes on profits and employee's contribution to taxes inclusive It is 35%. The Govt was about to raise taxes and saw that they had an excess of revenues, they then cancelled the tax increase. (WOW LOGIC IN GOVT, I KNOW)

Pro SPORTS gambling is legal and RAMPID all over the place. SO if you know your stuff, YOU WOULD DO well here. They even gamble on HOCKEY, HOW IS THAT POSSIBLE with dominicans not paying any attention to it. KINDA SILLY

Their Military is small and they have no dreams or passion of concurring the world. I actually routinely pick up soldiers hitch hiking to give them a ride. I respect these guys alot...

I Live in a tourist area, for 300 bucks a month, I have second floor ocean view 2 bedroom 1 bath, 300 footsteps from a party beach. I have a wireless booster device that allows me to borrow/aquire/steal internet from a resort and other private residences, a leftover from when I was at anchor on the boat.
The electric bill is about 40 bucks a month.

ONE GREAT thing is that MANY(Say 30%) vehicles here run on LPG or Propane, (difference?) which is much cheaper to operate than on gasoline or diesel.

No real vehicle inspection to speak of, other than registration with paperwork.

MOST things in the pharmacy are NON prescription. Antibiotics and what not. VERY LITTLE REGULATION....

Private medical clinics are good, and my Girl had a pollup or syst removed from her ovaries with being put under for a cost of about 300 dollars... I say RESONABLE

deep see Sport fishing is good here and eco tourism as well.

If you are a european sports car fan, you can have anything shipped in here and its legal...

My Favorite, CRIMINALS LOCKED UP IN PRISON, Have to have a family member or service PAID FOR by the Family of the prisoner, TO FEED HIM...... Get it, The tax payer is not burdoned with feeeding the prisoner. HOW AWESOME IS THAT... I also was told, that some of the prisoners even start a business in prison and come out successful business people when they leave prison. IE RENTING BEDS for 15 dollars a month. They have a partner on the out side provide purchasing and delivery. Only Example.

The PINAPPLES and produce is out of this world... NON GENETIC altered foods, Range fed beef. IT is a food dream.

Music, They have a beautiful country music called the BACHATA. actually pretty music and dance. You see alot of hip swaying...
Merengei is fast paced and funny to watch, but fun to do.

Puerto plata Intl airport services 5 destinations in the states and about 10 or more european countries.

THIS DAY AND AGE OF ONLINE investing, You can make all your money in the states and live here on the cheap.

IT IS A LAID BACK, NON STRESSED, LIVING free from fear of govt, way of life.... WITH some of the MOST Beautiful women here.
Exception Venezuala and Colombia.

MAN there are so many freedoms here I cant think of them all.
The people are very politically motivated and have rallies and convoys supporting their candidate. THERE IS MORE THAN 2 PARTIES YEAH!!!!!!!!!!!

SO ON THE BAD SIDE.!!!!______________________________

FUEL is expensive, BUT IF YOU DONT Drive for a living it is not that much out of your monthly budget. Its about HIGH 4 dollar range.

The Peso is loosely PEGGED to the dollar (BIG MISTAKE). It would hurt some of their exports if it was pegged to the euro i guess.

Petty Thievery does exist, USUALLY the MOTO TAXI guys are stealing UNLEADED Gasoline. I HIGHLY recommend using fuel that is undesirable to steal and haveing a diesel vehicle or lpg converted pickup with high side profile tires. IE SUV.

Although the roads have been Greatly improved in the last 6 months because it is election time, I expect the roads to become worse in a year or 2.

IMPORT duties are REEEEDICULOUS. 35% I think. So Cars are automatically kinda expensive, Although I heard if you are moving here from another country you are allowed 1 shipment tax free as long as your car was registered in the states for a year. Check with customs brokers, I only have heresay... I believe most countries in central america and south america have the same thing.

Police/military DO random stop checks looking for mostly illegal firearms. I have noticed this about 5 times in 11 months that I have lived here.
with most of the times, allowing me to pass without incident or harassment. Remember when you were young, most people respected and enjoyed the sight of a police officer, that still is for the most part here. YOU RARELY see an officer unless its for traffic control duty.

They have 2 week period in spring and fall, (IVE HEARD) where is rains pretty constant.

I would avoid Santo Domingo and Punta Cana for many reasons to live, but mostly for crime and exposure to hurricanes.

The Electric use to be free and govt supplied, They then started charging for it and people started stealing it. In retribution the electric company turns off the power from anywhere from 4hrs a day to 12 hours a day depending on where you live. I think it is a conspiracy for the guys who sell batteries and invertors to make a killing. My APT is equiped with such as I have lights tv and comp 24 hrs a day. The refrigerator and hot water heater gets turned off due to the bank of batteries are not strong enough to supply that demand.

The ILLICIT drug laws are pretty severe, and if you are caught with anything above a certain amount for personal use, You might have as well killed somebody here. So IVE heard.

Education, the colleges are resonable and I've heard good. PRIMARY and Secondary is better off in private schools near the tourist areas. This country is perfect for home schoolers and online entrepenuers.

They do harass the tourist to enter their shops, But everybody knows me and after 2 months or so, I enjoy walking unaccosted.

If you live in an expat community, THink life like a little bit about homeowners association.

WITH FREEDOM comes, NO NOISE ord, esp fri sat sometime sun night. DEPENDS on your neighbors. Also littering is kinda widespread, in the towns the women sweep the streets clean everymorning just so everyone dirties it up again. Endless cycle.

If you live near gringo's, you are more likely experience alittle of the same ole thing you had in the states.... BUYER BEWARE.
Most people are here for the same reason I am.

700 dollars or so and about a year, and aids test later, you can get your residency. OR if you stay indef, say 5 years straight. you pay a 400 or 500 dollar fine.

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This country is perfect for a self starter, internet entrepeneur, SINGLE or married with without children, TO HOMESCHOOL and live a life of freedom and relaxation. If you can make 3 grand a month on the net, You live like a KING. It is preferable if you had sold all your things in the states and came here with large chunk of change to buy your house outright/build it, pay for your cars in full and live here debt free.

Hind sight, I have traveled in excess of 30 countries, This is all around best and Most free (EXCEPT DRUG LAWS) country I have ever been to. You have to like beer and Rum and your music LOUD if you live in a dominican neighborhood. The best part of the story is I am an foreign immigrant working in the secured part of the airport. WITHOUT WORKING PAPERS:) LOVE IT....

ORIGINALLY FROM THE COMMUNIST REPUBLIC OF NEW JERSEY.

God Bless you guys fighting the revolution, and Republica Dominicana.

I will try to address any questions you have....

FREEDOM

Edit, I will check back in a few hours and try to answer any question.

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Yep...sounds like a paradise...but it isn't.

Crime in the DR is several times higher then CR. Cost of living ( and property ) is also much higher. Another thing to consider is the climate, in the DR there is not enough elevation for a comfortable & healthy lifestyle.

If you REALLY want to live offshore and be safe and happy...

Discover Costa Rica

Discover Costa Rica

Actually I believe you

Are not absolutly correct, As for the mountains, There is many mountanous areas where many people live, I cannot live there because the commute to work would be too far. We also have the highest peak in the carribean, so I do not know what you are talking about as in elevation for comfortable and healthy lifestyle....

Yes there is crime, That is why I Also reccomend the northcoast. Less crime. I am not making a comparison to Costa Rica, I have not been there. Neither I am selling anything here. I also advise the northcoast of the DR because they have never been hit directly by a hurricane directly. SO THEY SAY.

As I recall the Us military had to fly helicopters with food and aid in honduras and costa rica during severe rainy seasons about 5 yrs back... No thanks, I would go to belize over costa rica becausse of their banking secrecy though.

Freedom may be worth searching for.

I have given up on my fellow Americans, (not DPers) as I will not shed one more calorie trying to awaken anyone else who is not a critical thinker and does not have the inherent feeling that something is wrong.

USA licenses?

My husband is just about to sit for the NCLEX. Will a US RN be able to work there? We looked into Belize, and you can NOT work there the first year, and it was a deal breaker for us. Do you know the story there?

Truth exists, and it deserves to be cherished.

As for working papers

I do not have any papers. I work in the secured access part of the airport. I know MANY expats that work all over the DR with no paperwork per se. It takes about 7 months to a year to get paperwork. What work would he be doing anyways?
If he is to open a legit storefront Biz, I would wait until he has the residency. Get the appropriate tax numbers and what not before opening. Most dominican jobs are not high paying or anything like that, so I am curious on what employment.

If the employment is internet based(IE Online investing), WHICH would be the dream job, No one would know the difference. PLUS its low profile. That is the employment I reccomend.

Freedom may be worth searching for.

I have given up on my fellow Americans, (not DPers) as I will not shed one more calorie trying to awaken anyone else who is not a critical thinker and does not have the inherent feeling that something is wrong.

that sounds like paradise. i

that sounds like paradise. i am stuck here I have children but I read a post the other day about a guy in brazil and it all sounds so good, maybe one day.

On the drive to work, I came

On the drive to work, I came up with some more pros and cons.

Cons

We have a Dominican born NYC raised and educated President. Unfortunatly he is trying to turn Santo Domingo into alittle bit of a NYC. He has JUST completed a north south 2 track subway system at the cost of alot of money. I dont know the politics behind it or what not. He has improved the bridge system and road network some. Id rather have a Dominican Born and Raised, without such OUTSIDE influences....

Because it is a 3rd world economy so to speak, They have LOTS of two stroke motorcycles running around Puerto Plata(mostly because 4 stroke is more expensive). So the Blue exhaust from a bunch of motorcycles is Definately a negative. Sosua is a smallish town and lots less polluting motorcycles. ON the Plus side, You can register and license your atv four wheeler and drive it on the streets. HECK you can register and drive JUST about anything on the streets...

The Two stroke Motorcycles are alot less in the other cities such as Santiago, Santo Domingo and elsewhere.

Anybody with a serious vineyard or orchard? Grapes are pretty expensive along with apples being alittle pricey too. I cant understand why, with as rich as soil is around here, they grow lots of tobacco and sugar cane, should be a piece of cake.

I believe the property market here to be about 15-20% overvalued in areas...
I am waiting for the depression to kickin and correct the overvalued housing here. I am no realestate pro or anything, Just a guess.

During the severe rains that happen on occasion, Roads in the mountains between Puerto Plata and Santiago occasionally gets washed out. Usually one lane and a half is left. Be Careful on the roads you know after the rains. You may be in for a suprise.

THIS IS TO YOUR discretion what you would call PRO or CON. ABORTION IS ILLEGAL. BUT you can buy the abortion pill in the pharmacy without a prescription. GO FIGURE. It is a SUPPOSED catholic country with brothels gambling, birthcontrol and no abortion. Cant Figure that one out.......... There is also an herb that the local women know about that terminates pregnancies when drank in a tea.

Pros

There is definately opportunity in this country. I see MANY EXPENSIVE vehicles here and I know there is some wealth to be made. I see Computers here that cost twice as much in the states. I think Successful real estate people do well as well as some of the online entrepenuers(SPELL?). I know computer programmers and other online jobs making stateside wages living here.

Dominicans in general kinda immature and this is a few examples of the mentality of the people. Teens and 20 30 yr olds ride mopeds and motorcycles popping wheelies constantly. I once had witnessed abunch of cabbies in the 40s 50s horsing around like 10yr olds, Chasing each other around and doing alittle wrestling. ACTUALLY I had a huge grin watching it.... Some Women here are not really thinking about tommorow, they get some coin in their pocket and blow it on looking good, and tommorow they may be hungry..... Catch the drift. I have had SOME Dominican Buddies that were DEGENERATE sports gamblers. Although a few knew what they were doing, It was a little sad... Their immaturity makes for a humorous and eventful days.

ONE of the Biggest PROS if I had 150,000 to play with: I would build a stand alone house on 3-5 acres on one of the eastern facing shores or hills that would be a OFF the Grid so to speak. Wind generators and about 600w solar panel, 2000 amphour bat bank. No AC needed really, Breezy design with concrete rebarb construction. Water collection devices/systern and some animal pens. Driveway that is on a hill so I can Jump start my diesel stickshift truck when trouble arises. ect ect ect. Bad side the war in Iraq has driven up the prices of steel, and most alternative energy devices are kinda expensive to purchase locally. Must import.

Living in the North, Santiago Puerto Plata Sosua Caberete area has NO TOLL ROADS. South of Santiago towards Santo Domingo has some tolls. As well as Santo Domingo towards LaRomana has a few also. Kinda pricey I say for Dominicans.

There is an election comming shortly, I wonder if anyone have ever said this about your election? This is what I say "All I want the New President to do is NOTHING except improve the road quality. I am happy the way the place is."
If Im wishing add lower the import duties too.

It comes down to this, As the Good DOCTOR has tought me

Freedom is your right to do as you wish as long as you do no harm or infringe on the others rights...

Freedom may be worth searching for.

I have given up on my fellow Americans, (not DPers) as I will not shed one more calorie trying to awaken anyone else who is not a critical thinker and does not have the inherent feeling that something is wrong.

I forgot ONE major drawback.

I forgot ONE major drawback. IF you are a person prone to being bit by mosquitos, and you live in the Mangrove areas or when there is no wind at dusk. THERE is a danger of Dengue fever(SPELLING).

It is especially dangerous to small children and elders who have week immune systems. I do not get bit often, (Guess not sweet enough) and there are times when there is a DENGUE fever season is about. Those who get bit often, Wear bug spray when doing outdoorsy kinda things.

Freedom may be worth searching for.

I have given up on my fellow Americans, (not DPers) as I will not shed one more calorie trying to awaken anyone else who is not a critical thinker and does not have the inherent feeling that something is wrong.

Sounds nice

but it gets lonly on an island. I spent time in Venezuela and my experience is similar to yours.

unreasonableman

As for an Island, You

As for an Island, You really DONT notice its an island. I do understand what you mean though. I spent weeks on islands that were 20-70 miles long. THAT does get lonely. This feels more like living in the tristate area for me. I commuted 2hrs each way and I only did about 1/4 of the island. There are plenty of places and things I have yet to do.

Freedom may be worth searching for.

I have given up on my fellow Americans, (not DPers) as I will not shed one more calorie trying to awaken anyone else who is not a critical thinker and does not have the inherent feeling that something is wrong.

what if i wanted to have a

what if i wanted to have a "special" garden of herbage?
where do i go with those types of living freedoms and prices and weather?

If for personal use

Im sure If it wasnt too BIG, you should not have a problem, People mind their own biz. They once had a suprise nation wide drug test for cops, They HAD TO STOP it or they would have lost nearly half of the force. That may be a legend, but I like it.

I would recomend haveing some acreage for privacy.... BUT AS I HEAR, It is fairly economical and easy to get. Unfortunatly I am involved in aviation and subject to spot checks, SO I cannot indulge.

Freedom may be worth searching for.

I have given up on my fellow Americans, (not DPers) as I will not shed one more calorie trying to awaken anyone else who is not a critical thinker and does not have the inherent feeling that something is wrong.

I don´t like the part with

I don´t like the part with people driving cars, while drinking beer.

freedoms

Glad tou won't be down there adding to the rules m72

MrTom

Its not that much different than it would

Have been in the 60s or 70s without dwi laws. In 11 months I have only seen Fender benders here. THE DETTERENT IS, IF you HURT someone in this country, YOU ARE IN SOME DEEP DOO DOO..... Especially drunk... If you damage property, it is about 5 or 10 times more costly.

Examply My boss hit one of these concrete islands and knocked down a palm tree. 400 dollar fine later, car released on a flat bed. They initially wanted to charge him about a 1000 bucks, But was negotiated down.

On the plus Side, There is not alot of traffic at night, That being the time when I assume that MOST alcohol is being consumed.

Also someone does have a detterent from crashing their car here. ITS REALLY expensive for dominicans to have a car on their salary and what not.

Although I have witnessed a Guy who with a Grande Bottle was drinking in public around 3 in the after noon, That was the only incident I have seen.

Freedom may be worth searching for.

I have given up on my fellow Americans, (not DPers) as I will not shed one more calorie trying to awaken anyone else who is not a critical thinker and does not have the inherent feeling that something is wrong.

Ok so Puerto Plata is the

Ok so Puerto Plata is the best place then? correct? Then it is close to sousa or something like that..? Is that a good place too? Which is cheaper? I wonder if any Ron Paulians want to invest together in an apartment building down there.

Well Caberete is the

Well Caberete is the windsurf/kitesurf capital of the world, or something like that, It is 20 mins away from Sosua.

Sosua is more for the Single Man and is MORE expensive than Puerto plata which is another 20 mins down the road. Sosua has a HUGE expat community of Germans American Dutch Russians(Jokingly called MOBSTERS) French Canadians and others. If you are a Family man, They have 2 good all english schools that is very diverse and students from all over the world.
For A Family, I would not reccomend living in down town so to speak.

Puerto Plata is a small City. Cheaper than sosua, I Have heard of an all english curriculum school there.

Costambar and Cofresi is for the people that have alot of money to burn, Top quality lifestyle there with the top price...... Buyer Beware

Freedom may be worth searching for.

I have given up on my fellow Americans, (not DPers) as I will not shed one more calorie trying to awaken anyone else who is not a critical thinker and does not have the inherent feeling that something is wrong.

Do you honestly believe, with all due respect

That what you say [> First I want people to understand that alittle corruption at the police level is a good thing and provides alot of freedom.... As opposed to the corruption in the states at the politician level. THE police here are very underpaid and not highly motivated....

In example, You can Speed down the road (NO RADAR GUNS), drinking a BEER(NO BREATHALIZERS) Get stopped(UNLIKELY UNLESS YOU ARE IN TRAFFIC because most police dont have CARS PLUS your an american, ALL WITH AN EXPIRED LISCENSE) and the Police officer instructs you to pay from 2 beers worth to 20 dollars US in a bribe.) His interest not in doing paperwork and if he doesnt get paid if he turns you in...<]

is a good thing? :-)

What you believe to be true, is true to you... "until you change your mind"

I am giving you an example

I am giving you an example of freedom, With all of it beauties, splendors and drawbacks. I do not advocate this behavior, nor condone it. It is the price you pay for self rule/self governance. ;)

Freedom may be worth searching for.

I have given up on my fellow Americans, (not DPers) as I will not shed one more calorie trying to awaken anyone else who is not a critical thinker and does not have the inherent feeling that something is wrong.

while I can see on a the

while I can see on a the surface why you would question this...there is a price for more freedom..and he is correct.
Especially in countries that are not as advanced as the 1st world countries.. especially islands.

Hi so I did a little bit of

Hi so I did a little bit of research and you said that things are cheaper if you go down there and do your own research.

For instance is renting cheaper than buying? It seemed to me that things were pretty expensive already there.

How much would a house or condo be in the places you suggest? If we were to do our leg work down there?

Yes the stuff you

See for sale on the net, IS more expensive, because that is expats trying to entice you into buying through them.
There is lots of places to rent, depending on location and proximity to the beach and how lavish your taste are. My buddy says his complex has the nicest pool in town with fairly new building and he rents for 300 a month. DO NOT know how many Brooms what not. Hes a bachelor so I suspect 1.
But you can get anything from 150 bucks or so a month in a dominican neighborhood away from the tourist towns. OR you can Pay 1000 a month for a 3 or 4 bedroom in a gated community. It is all about your preferences and your budget. The most expensive Place I have heard was about 1300 a month. You have to remember that the SNOW birds Drive the prices up in the winter. Better to start looking in the spring to lock in a good price.

Freedom may be worth searching for.

I have given up on my fellow Americans, (not DPers) as I will not shed one more calorie trying to awaken anyone else who is not a critical thinker and does not have the inherent feeling that something is wrong.

take me away...

What a nice read - thanks. I could imagine the place. Maybe a vacation is in order! I'm hunkering down where I am for now, but it's real nice to know there are places where I could go to retire...soon.

If we run away

when things get bad, how long will it take before there is nowhere else to run to?

Not trying to bash what sounds like a beautiful place, just making a point. ;-)

Your concerns are valid.

Your concerns are valid. Quiet frankly I am not good bedfellow with the US GUVMINT myself. I pay attention to that same angle. Checking in and out of ports here, NO COMPUTERS. Police cars NO COMPUTERS, Hell most of the police dont even have cars OR radios. The airports do have some computers, dont know if they are linked to anything.

As long as you come down here and DONT start a rucus, You dont even have to keep a low profile. I will tell you about a federal employees who was born in the DR, moved to the states, Knocked up a woman, then got into a domestic dispute, RAN has a warrant for his arrest. NOW working for the TSA/national police at the airport. Understand that they JUST DONT CARE here.

Hope I answer your concern.

Comes down to, NO COMPUTERS equals ALOT MORE FREEDOM.

Freedom may be worth searching for.

I have given up on my fellow Americans, (not DPers) as I will not shed one more calorie trying to awaken anyone else who is not a critical thinker and does not have the inherent feeling that something is wrong.

The point he was making,

was, I believe, to do with the long-term result - that if we all "handle" tyranny by running away, it will only grow stronger. Our final retreat might be holes in the ground like the one Saddam Hussein spent his last days of "freedom" in.....

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Got your drift. One Former

Got your drift. One Former Marine was listening to me verbally bashing the government, He asks would you defend this country? I said of course, IF Chinese was landing in California and needed me to fight. IRAQ is not defending the country, It is making more enemies. He accepted the answer with a puzzled look.

Dont get me wrong, A revolution is needed, BUT STAND united or You end up like in V for Vendetta. They go after the insurgents and revolutionaries, one at a time, dont give you a chance to unite...

Freedom may be worth searching for.

I have given up on my fellow Americans, (not DPers) as I will not shed one more calorie trying to awaken anyone else who is not a critical thinker and does not have the inherent feeling that something is wrong.

very interesting

I have been wondering where the best places to go are. Thank you for taking the time to tell us about your little bit o' heaven.

If you are looking for a

If you are looking for a cheap vacation, then Punta Cana is resort central, Kinda like cancun. It is flat and not very desirable in my opinion.

SAMANA and the Los Haitises is probably the most Unbelievable part of the Island. Some of the opening clips on one of the Jurassic park was filmed there. It is definitely worth seeing this place In JANUARY TO MARCH only. As you can get a boat ride and watch the Humpbacks launch themselves into the air to woo a female. Havent seen it my self. The problem for this area is only ecotourism and not alot of opportunities to live there. Las Terrenas HAS HUGE European/american expat community, I dont know why, It is kinda remote. I heard It has an incredible beach. It is about an hour from Samana city.( a little dirty)

Freedom may be worth searching for.

I have given up on my fellow Americans, (not DPers) as I will not shed one more calorie trying to awaken anyone else who is not a critical thinker and does not have the inherent feeling that something is wrong.

Did a little checking...

I did a little checking... after reading the initial post. Seems - from 1500 miles away - like something to look into. My wife would probably eunuch-ize me if I came up with "we're out of here for the wonderful freedom of Dominican Republic"... if the Dung hits the Ventilation Unit, then perhaps a move would be in order. Mostly though, it's some left-behind wanderlust as a result of 6 years in the Navy... lol

Anyway, I wondered about the electricity issue - sure folks stealing power should be dealt with - but stuff can go bad quick in a fridge that doesn't have electricity for 4-5 hours at 85 degrees. I think I'd have issues with that.

I searched weather.com (via a google search for "dominican republic weather") for the average highs/lows/rain.

Luperon has an average MONTHLY rainfall of 4 inches of rain. November and December average 8+ inches of rain... jeez, that's a lot of rain... lol

Monte Cristi averages <2" per month... is this the desert area that was spoken of?

As for the electricity

As for the electricity issue, If you have a big enough battery bank/invertor, Then it is no problem. I am using the unit as provided by the apt. The electricity guys have their timetables to prevent food from going bad, they are usually pretty good about it. No electricity for 2-3 hours, electricity for 6 ect ect Sometimes longer and sometimes shorter. THE BEST way Is to have a DC A/C refrigerator, Unfortunatly I do not understand why the misterious free market deems DC fridges kinda expensive.

This is Important, Luperon has wind about 12hrs a day, A medium size WIND generator can make all the difference in the world for powersupply for those hot days. Because it is almost always windy, you only need the fan on at night depending where you live....

As for weather, I dont think they have an accurate gauging in luperon, ALTHOUGH may be correct. One experience was I spent 2 weeks in punta cana, and every day about 8-10 miles in from the point, IT RAINED EVERYDAY. Where we were, NOT a Drop. I spent about 6 months in Luperon, In less than a night, A 10 foot dinghy was FULL of water. I suspect the 4 inches accumilation was that night ALONE.....

Puerto plata would probably be better place to look up on the weather channel.

I havent traveled to monte christi or the haitian border.

Freedom may be worth searching for.

I have given up on my fellow Americans, (not DPers) as I will not shed one more calorie trying to awaken anyone else who is not a critical thinker and does not have the inherent feeling that something is wrong.