Myth 22

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While there had been a couple of threads regarding Team Law on here a couple of weeks ago, I challenge everyone here to click on the link below and read all it has to say.

The combined myths regarding: “The Creature From Jekyll Island”, Money, IRS tax protestor causes and the allegation of the Russo video, “Freedom to Fascism”

http://teamlaw.org/Mythology.htm#FreedomToFascism

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http://teamlaw.org/Events...

http://teamlaw.org/Events.htm

On this page, you can listen to two separate interviews with Eric Madsen of Team Law on First Amendment Radio.

Everyone should listen to this.

Team law has some good points, but

the book is still open on others. I do understand what they are saying about the Birth certificate, Marriage license, and Social security numbers. When we get a birth certificate for our children we are basically giving up our parental rights to the states. When we get a marriage license we are no longer getting married in just the eyes of God , but the eyes of the state. When we get our social security number, we are getting a number to be tracked by the state, this is something that team law left out. Team law has some good points but I will be honest with you, I do not trust anything a lawyer tells me nor do I trust a lawyer that tells me to pray to God for guidance, because I have lost all faith in Churches and their hypocrisy.

Give Me Freedom

If Tyranny And Oppression Come To This Land, It Will Be In The
Guise Of Fighting A Foreign Enemy. James Madison

Give Me Freedom

If Tyranny And Oppression Come To This Land, It Will Be In The
Guise Of Fighting A Foreign Enemy. James Madison

If We Have Racism We Will Not Have Freedom.
If We Have No Racism We Can Have Freedom
Quoted By: GIVE ME FREEDOM

Do remember

that God and churches are two entirely different things. Also remember that only 1/3 of the Jews are God's promised people. I doubt seriously that the Jewish people who own our country are part of the elect group of 1/3.

I think a tax code, if

I think a tax code, if written by honest people, would make it very easily understandable for everyone, because from those not so smart to the geniuses, all are "supposed to pay income tax". The only reason why a thread like the one about Income tax was never ending, is that is was made so complicated that not even their own IRS agents were not simply able to find the law. And if they could not find it, and the Commissioner did not seem hot to want to show it, is because it doesn't exist. The commissioner would not be in this situation, if he just showed the simple law. All they have to do is show the law. That's it. All these years, nobody could show the law about Income tax, that everybody would clearly understand and agree? The tax code should be called the Confusion at it's best.

Taomaster

Having to wade through this crap is your first clue!

Holy crap! Can you imagine? Only government and those with a will to power can participate in creating this type of "history"--this gobbledygook--and then tell me I need to understand it. How can it be that life must have this much "documentation"? Because "geniuses" run things? Because combined with those with a will to power are those among us with little or no self-mastery causing life--just living--being born and then inhaling/exhaling for a few decades--to be this complicated?

Do "leaders" arise among us because we have no self-mastery?

"No man is free who is not master of himself." Epicatus

Well gee I guess they think

Well gee I guess they think they got it all figured out. If the best way is to appeal to the law well gee how you going to do that when there are no lawful article III courts?

There argument is so fraught with contradictions it's not even worth going through. The federal reserve is perpetrating fraud, G Edward Griffin and many of us know FRN's are not money the fraud is passing them off as such.

Appealing to correct and true law has not made a damn bit of difference in gaining our freedom back. There have been some random wins for individuals but there have been many more losses then wins because of ignorant or colluding judges and prosecutors and the lack of article III courts.

The point is one should not have to jump through hoops of legal wrangling their freedom should be guaranteed. As for HLS locking down cities good luck, and that corporate military spoken of happens to consist of our own countrymen good luck getting them to fire on their own countrymen in any significant numbers.

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Is life so dear, or peace so sweet, as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it, Almighty God! I know not what course others may take; but as for me, give me liberty, or give me death. Patrick Henry

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Well, obviously not everyone

Well, obviously not everyone is going to believe them...and they are the first to tell you not to take their word for it, but, to do your own independent research and tell them what you found.

It seems apparent to me that many recognize that there is something deeply flawed in what we call our "government," yet we are powerless when we try to change it. Why is that? Their have been books written about it and documentary films, where the "Officials" simply walk out of the discussion and no one can understand how that could be.

I also find it ironic that nearly everyone in this movement believes in one conspiracy or another, yet this one is far-fetched. I do believe they have it all figured out. They have been around a long time and make themselves available to anyone that wishes to pick up their phone and call them. I have spoken with the Trustee many times and with beneficiaries, not one of which told me they weren't succeeding in their endeavors.

While I am not a beneficiary yet, I will be soon.

Complexity is how they beat you

It is simple.

There is no federal statute on the books that the IRS can use in a court of law to force you to pay taxes on WAGES that you have earned.

If you work for a company and they pay you a wage for your labor the only entity that has a statute (law) in place to enforce your payment of taxes on that wage is the STATE that you live in. Go live in New Hampshire. They have NO state income....they just ream you on the other stuff....duh.

There isn't one. If you think you have it, send it in to the foundation and you get a $500,000 reward.

Be careful as this is the realm of lawyers and I am not one. i have been following this stuff for decades and yes, they control the judges....duh.

Ron Paul solves the issue doesn't he?

Unify

I've been wondering when this would crop up on Dailypaul

I spent a few years studying this and completed the process and I have found that it is a moot point to go through the process because the greater majority of those who are supposed to abide by the precepts of this stuff have no idea about its existence and so you still get railroaded by law and courts. Which is not to say it isn't true, quite the opposite

I have used my paperwork filings in court before and what it comes down to is your word against theirs because it is legal fiction. They told me everything I showed them was b.s. and I submitted to their explanation because they threatened to bring a jury in on the process, and I didn't want the headache of that, we made a deal that I would pay them some FRN's and they wouldn't put it on my record. When I arrived I was the only one in the courtroom because they did not want anyone else on the docket to know about what I was doing. Technically I believe that I could have stood up and said yes this is the way it is, etc. and you have to abide by it, but what can I say, a courtroom is a fearful place and its the people who are enforcing their beliefs on you that counts. It's about being bullied by someone else and how you react.

I'm surprised no one has started talking about the birth certificate's role in all this, I didn't see anything about it on the team law link, but I didn't spend a lot of time on there because I've already researched this stuff alot.

You can watch some videos out there by googling: Irene Gravenhorst
She claims to have succeeded through this process.

There's another link called http://www.freedom-school.com which gets into some of this stuff.

I will warn you that this stuff will seriously alter your conception of reality, which can be a good and a bad, but realize that everything you ever read affects your conception of reality, so what is really real? You don't know do you? Because you don't know everything, you haven't read everything, you have not taken in all the possible information about things, so why claim you ever know the truth? Everything is just information and you are one big processor of it.

I will say that what is contained in the teamlaw links is very much right in my opinion, but once you get into this stuff, you start to realize that reality in it of itself is nothing more than your collective perceptions and experiences and everything you've ever read and sensed, etc. because of this one can say that everything is b.s., which I wholeheartedly agree with, but we as humanity must come to a consensus on reality if we are to make progress toward real lasting peace between us.

We must realize that we are creating reality with everything we say and do and how that affects every other aspect of the universe and the collective consciousness of human-kind.

Once you get into the sovereign citizen movement you will wrestle with many things about your belief system, ultimately you will come out realizing some of the things I have espoused here.

I recommend going outside and taking in the beauty of nature and feel your connection to the earth and that stars and all that is. Try to understand what it would be like to get behind all your senses away from all stimulation. Go find a flotation tank/sensory deprivation chamber in your area and book some time, it is an enlightening experience.

Peace and Love & All of The Above

Thanks~

I needed this...

"Obamney care," Nuff said.

Regarding the birth

Regarding the birth certificate...

http://teamlaw.org/family.htm#Family

Just pulling it out of the

Just pulling it out of the hole again.

Deep Rabbit hole

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Just dragging this one out

Just dragging this one out for anyone that wasn't on earlier when this was posted.

The gist of what he's stating is that essentialy everyone.....

falls within the governments jurisdiction and is therefore required to abide by the various laws / statutes of the U.S. Corporation. Those whom are exempt are the "sovereign" individuals who utilized the remedy (i.e. went through the redemption process).This involves filing a UCC-1 Security Agreement, financial statement, etc, with your birth state and Secretary of Treasury (Henry Paulson). Once properly filed, you now control your "strawman" (your name in all capital letters).

Everyone who finds Team Law

Everyone who finds Team Law worthy, as I have, should spread their website far and wide to friends and family.

It was a good read

Don't jump to conclusions on it, it says we have to seat everyone in the gubernatorial elections to gain power. It's a long read. http://teamlaw.org/Government/usmap.htm

"Endless money forms the sinews of war." - Cicero, www.freedomshift.blogspot.com

There is alot to read on

There is alot to read on their site, but everyone needs to and not stop there. We all need to learn the Law and apply it. Team Law has been around since the mid 90s.

So what does all this gobbldygook mean?

I don't understand it and don't have time to wade through a bunch of it. What are they saying in a nutshell?

Healthnut4freedom

"Trust in the Lord with all thine heart; and lean not unto thine own understanding. In all thy ways acknowledge Him, and He shall direct thy paths." Proverbs 3:5,6

Healthnut4freedom

The lip of truth shall be established forever: but a lying tongue is but for a moment...Lying lips are abomination to the LORD: but they that deal truly are His delight. Prov 12:19,22

Hes saying these are all myths

Hes saying Freedom to Facism is not based on truth and the IRS and the Fed Reserve are good guys?

"I think we are living in a world of lies: lies that don't even know they are lies, because they are the children and grandchildren of lies." ~ Chris Floyd

ok, wait

I am reading this little synopsis and I assume you mean that he is wrong about this, right? We have been hanging our hat on Freedom to Fascism and the Feds are bad for a long time and your little post implies that is all bogus.

My little post...have you

My little post...have you taken the time to read it?

That's why in the video the former IRS Commissioner......

abruptly ended the interview between he and Aaron. He (the Commissioner) walked out of the interview due to his inability to answer Aaron's question. His question was something to the effect, "is every citizen liable to pay a Federal income tax on their wages/earnings? He simply could not unambiguously answer the question.

Also there's been a large monetary award

offered to anyone who can show the law that makes the average American citizen liable to pay the income tax ... And no one has won the money. I know it's been as high as $50k. In AFTF, one IRS agent decided to win the money and when she couldn't find a law she quit the IRS.

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"I killed the banks"

No, did you read it?

No, did you read it?

I will read it later

as I am at work now...sounds confusing but will follow the links in order later and see if the light comes on for me!

"I think we are living in a world of lies: lies that don't even know they are lies, because they are the children and grandchildren of lies." ~ Chris Floyd

In a nutshell they are

In a nutshell they are saying that our original jurisdiction government had been abandoned for a private corporation. However, only you can do your own research.

So

It isn't saying anything we don't all already know. We know our government was hijacked by ?one of the presidents? who created a corporation within DC and named it UNITED STATES OF AMERICA and has been ruling our country with this corporation as if it was the constitutional government of our forefathers (which it is not) ever since. Right???

So what we need to do is sue that corporation and get US back. Clear and probably not as simple as it sounds.

yes

this is what I got out of it also.

"Endless money forms the sinews of war." - Cicero, www.freedomshift.blogspot.com