Lew Rockwell: Cheney-Bush junta has decided to bomb Iran on April 4th or 6th!?
Murdering Iranians
Posted by Lew Rockwell at March 28, 2008 09:35 AM
Terrible rumors from Russia continue to swirl around the Middle East that the Cheney-Bush junta has decided to bomb Iran on April 4th or 6th, targeting not only nuclear-power research facilities but ships, planes, antiaircraft installations, and the Iranian pentagon. Apparently the nuclear-power reactor being built by Russian companies will be spared, but not much else. Will it happen? Certainly the neocon hate network is working overtime to make it so. Bush fired the anti-neocon Admiral Fallon. One thing we know for sure: it will be the typical Bush administration snafu, with horrific consequences for the region and the world, not to speak of the Iranian people, and reap much trouble for the US empire. Indeed, it could mark the end of the empire if, as Bill Lind worries, the Iranians in retaliation cut off water-food-ammo supply routes to US troops in Iraq, and, with the help of Shiite militians, capture large numbers of them. Need I mention that Ron Paul, our champion of peace, is the leading opponent of war on Iran?
Where the hell is the Declaration of War?
Damn it. What the hell is Congress doing letting this happen without their consent? Damn it this crap keeps pissing me off!
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I emailed the president and vice-president
and asked them not to bomb Iran on the April 4th, 5th, or 6th.
I'm sure they listened to the voice of a people.... poodle.... poople..... Shit - I don't even know what I am anymore......help......: )
Iran joined
a group lead by Russia and China on March 24th. It's called the Shanghai Cooperation Organization (SCO).
Basically it means that if any one of the members of the group are attacked, Russia and China must respond. In other words, attacking Iran is the same as attacking Russia and China.
Bush is making an "emergency trip" to Russia this week. I think the Kremlin is going to tell him they know what's going on and are going to lay the "end game" out for him if he pursues Iran.
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Whoa
Thats really intresting. I read on the comments below that Isreal is conducting "evacuation and rescue drills" on that very same day. I heard this morning that Bush was in the Ukrain, but i didnt make anything of it, until I started reading these posts. Why dont the russians and chinese want us to go to war with iran? I mean, we lose if we do. We cant afford it militarily or economically. So why would russia and china not want us to do it?
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Russia Needs Irans Approval On The Caspian Sea Oil Project
One reason is that Russia needs Iran's approval on what could be the largest oil field in the World development, "The Caspian Sea Project". All five surrounding countries must agree on every aspect of this Project and split the profits up five ways. In addition, China wants to have two pipe lines run into China from Iran to supply natural gas and oil. Russia also, wants to be the contructor to build the other five or six reactors in Iran to supply electrical power to Iran and then in-turn, it's neighors. Iraq has already signed an agreement with Iran to supply them power. It should be noted that Iran has a very large amount of excellent quality uranium that they want to utilize in order to power these reactors. China and Vietnam will help in updating old wells, as well as developing new oil reserves from zones that have already been identified. Five Other middle East countries have announced that they too, want nummeous to have reactors built in their countries.
China gets more than 1/3rd
China gets more than 1/3rd of its oil from Iran. Russia would love to have their ruble as one of the currencies the Iranian Oil Bourse uses. Russia has also heavily armed Iran.
To make nice with Iran = oil
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This is circulating like mad in the Pentagon, Iran issue #2
I was an administrator for the Democratic party for over 6 years and am well educated in the nomination process. I left the party to support Dr. Ron Paul, and assure you that I know what I am talking about.
Our founding fathers set the system up as it is to assure that there would be no false or fraudulent support for a candidate, thus forcing THE PEOPLE to become involved in the election process and to show actual support for their candidate.
They wanted to make sure they would protect us from VOTE FRAUD and to make sure that a candidate did not win a “beauty contest” but instead win an election based upon merit.
Any candidate and their supporters can do exactly what we are doing if they choose to do so.
I am sure from the reports we have received that McCain does not have real support or he would have the delegates he needs, registered as delegates, to vote for him in the upcoming conventions.
PLEASE, if you doubt my post, research it yourself here : http://www.gop.com/images...
PLEASE, EVERYONE, COPY AND SEND THIS TO THEIR EMAIL LISTS AND MEETUP HEADS AND ANY OTHER RON PAUL FORUMS.
This is a extremely needed read for anyone going to a convention for it will explain the language needed when passing resolutions, objecting and iover all how the game is played by the current RNC rules : http://www.robertsrules.o...
If you can’t be a delegate because it is too late to register, you can still help us at the convention.
Use these two links and help us win:
http://www.gopconvention.... & http://msp2008.com/volunt...
I know many of you are new to the election process but don't worry, as I am going to go into how this all works. So read and then read again, if you need to.
Did you know that the delegates can actually vote to unbind their delegates that are bound by state rules? Did you know that delegates can actually overturn any previous vote? Did you know the delegates have control of the entire process?
Mass media (MSM) is not reporting how to become the nominee in a situation like this so I suggest that you stop getting your info from the MSM.
I know many of you are bummed about Dr. Paul not getting more votes in the states popular vote BUT THAT IS BECAUSE YOU DO NOT UNDERSTAND HOW THE ELECTION SYSTEM WORKS : Let me explain to you the reality of how this functions to become the nominee.
First, stop looking at who wins each state’s popular vote. For most of the states, the vote by the people is really nothing but a straw poll and has no real bearing on who will become the nominee. The only way this matters is if one person receives 1191 delegates that are bound by state rules to be committed to a candidate. So if a candidate like McCain now has 906 delegates but he doesn't reach 1191, WHICH HE WILL NOT, most of the delegates the state “awarded” him mean nothing. Keep in mind that in most of the states most of the people that represent the 906 for McCain are actually Ron Paul supporters.
NOW there is no possible way that anyone in the race can achieve this goal now because of the major split in state wins by the candidates.
Normally, Convention Delegates do not matter because the convention is not brokered and we would have a clear winner if someone has 1191 delegates. BUT THIS YEAR IS DIFFERENT. This will be a brokered convention – there is no way around it. Do you see how the Ron Paul campaign strategy will work?
When a candidate wins delegates by winning a primary, that does not mean there are actual people that are appointed a delegate, acting as delegates – these are virtual delegates.
What do I mean by virtual delegates: A virtual delegate is just a number – there are no actual people YET that will go and vote for the candidate who won the particular state at the national convention. We call these people convention delegates.
The actual delegates are voted on (in most states) at a statewide delegate caucus after the Primary (which is just a giant preference poll) Who can be delegates? Anyone. In closed Primary states they must be registered Republicans, in Open Primary states they can be Republicans, Democrats, or Independents.
View the hard count of actual pledged delegates here : http://www.thegreenpapers...
And we have lots of delegates...
Out of the 2,380 delegates sent to Minneapolis St. Paul in September- - -
- 463 delegates are bound all the way through the convention. Some of those 463 are Ron Paul’s people.
- 565 delegates will be bound through one ballot. That is, they have to follow the results of the state election on the first ballot. After that, if no candidate has a majority of delegates, they are free to vote as they please, and McCain will not receive over 50% on the first ballot.
- 383 will be bound through two ballots, then they are free to vote for whom they wish.
- 318 will be bound through three ballots, then they are free to vote for whom they wish.
I am not going to list every state and what the breakdowns are, just do the math from these numbers or look them up for yourself here :
http://www.gop.com/Images...
The bottom line is, less than 1/2 of the delegates are bound by state party rules. Now do you see how we can win this thing?
So what happens now, you ask? Look at the number of delegates that Dr. Paul has that are uncommitted to the other candidates and will support him These delegates are not decided by the popular vote (straw poll) of the people. Since no one will have enough delegates to skate them through to the nomination we now must look at how many delegates, NOT VOTES, but delegates Dr. Paul has that are 100% uncommitted to the other candidates and will be 100% for Dr. Paul since they are free to vote for whom they wish.
This race will go all the way to the national convention, as there is no other way for someone to receive the nomination until then.
The Republican National Convention will convene its annual Winter Meeting - and voters will continue to cast their ballots in the nation's primaries and caucuses. Candidates for delegate and alternate delegate to the convention will be elected - and thousands of convention participants and guests will begin planning their trips to Minneapolis-Saint Paul The first week in September, 2008.
SO WHAT DOES ALL THIS MEAN?
This means that all of the people that registered to become a delegate for Dr. Paul can go to the convention and cast their vote for Dr. Paul. Now think about what I just said. Do you think for one second that all the people that voted for Dr. Paul and filed to become a delegate will not show up at the convention to vote for the good doctor? Of course they will, just like they battled the rain and the sleet and the 15 below zero winter weather to knock on doors and wave signs spreading our message.
Now I assure you that even though we didn't win the popular vote in many states, WE DID PICK UP THE MAJORITY OF DELEGATES OVER ALL THE OTHER CANDIDATES IN MOST STATES. So yes, they won the straw poll, and we won what counts – which is delegates.
Q: Doesn't Dr. Paul need to WIN 5 states to be on the ballot at the convention for the nomination?
A: NO, THIS IS NOT TRUE for people were just confused on how the process actually works.
We only need the majority of delegates from 5 states to be put on the ballot, NOT THE POPULAR VOTE OF 5 STATES, and I assure you we have picked up the majority of uncommitted delegates for Dr. Paul in more than 5 states!
Do any of you remember seeing posts by myself and many others that said BECOME A DELEGATE? There is still time in most states to become a delegate for the convention and we are picking up more of them every day.
So please STOP! ...worrying so much because you did not understand how the election system works and you might have thought we lost, didn't you? I assure you we have not!
The fact is Dr. Paul is a genius in his strategy and we are further ahead in delegates than you think and we can win the nomination.
I hope this gives you a better understanding of how we have been winning, even though most of you thought we were not.
NOW LET'S KEEP WORKING. FILE TODAY AND BECOME A DELEGATE BEFORE IT IS TOO LATE!
Info on how to become a delegate here : http://www3.webng.com/ron...
Dr. Steve Parent
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SPAM? Identical 1500 word post times 40+ postings?
Nah, couldn't be spam.
I highly doubt this is
I highly doubt this is plausible. There is a great lack of troops in general and there is no way the public would tolerate this. No WAY!
He would be impeached. He knows it..
We shall see but I just do not see the reality in it.
911
911 Then the public loves the president
Knowledge is power
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infoware.com
Rumors are it would be an air assault.
An air assault doesn't require troops. Just planes, pilots and bombs.
Possibly but..
what a great excuse to bring UN troops into the U.S. You know, get our troops spread so thin that Americans beg for the U.N to send troops after a major event or crisis in the U.S. Or maybe even Canada or Mexico could send some our way.
My instinct tells me that Bush could never get away with bombing Iran right now, but I have been so wrong before and way too optimistic about these things.
I am beginning to believe that the public will go for anything fed to them. People were calling the Governor of Montana begging him to sign on to the Real ID so they wouldn't be inconvenienced when the deadline approached.
Canada, Mexico, and US just put agreements into effect
I'm too tired to find the thread link, but there are definitely threads related to the three countries agreeing to allow the military of the *other* countries to cross the border to "help" in an emergency.
You know
I am constantly amazed at what the public tolerates.
Also, the rumors are outside the US and that always concerns me, especially after all the trips to the middle east just completed by our government. Sadly, I am beginning to trust the rumor mill outside the US far more than US news.
Lack of troops. No one seems to be worried about our lack of troops. Bush has been sabre rattling for a year. He is giddy to go after Iran, just like he was to go after Iraq. I knew we were going into Iraq long before we did it because of Bush's delight in the threat.
I hope you are right. I won't tolerate it, you won't tolerate it, but we haven't mattered in many moons. Sort of like McCain and the FEC-he just ignores it and pretends it is not there. That is what our government does with the people.
housing is bust so we need more wars
Paul O'Neill, former Treasury Secretary under Bush was fired because he wouldn't buckle down to the Bush's nonsense. He was interviewed Sunday in the New York Times Magazine. O'Neill says what he means, which is why he was fired. A few quotes below --
Times -- It's so hard to understand how the subprime mortgage crisis has triggered a financial crisis of global proportions.
O'Neill -- If you have ten bottles of water and one bottle had poison in it, and you didn't know which one, you probably wouldn't drink out of any of the ten bottles: that's basically what we got there.
Times -- Instead of helping Bear Stearns, why doesn't the Fed help homeowners?
O'Neill -- It's too late now. Going back a year ago, if the Fed and the Treasury had set out to help the institutions provide clarity and differentiate between good loans and bad loans, we wouldn't have gotten in this freeze situation.
Times -- How do you feel about McCain, who claims to be a straight talker?
O'Neill -- I don't want a straight talker, I want a leader. And a straight talker is one dimension of a leader.
Times -- McCain recently confessed in public that his grasp of economics is limited.
O'Neill -- Yeah, that's a great place to start from, isn't it?
Times -- Do you feel bitter about your service for the Bush administration?
O'Neill -- No. I'm thankful I got fired when I did, so that I didn't have to be associated with what they subsequently did.
Russian Intel is as good as our CIA
Don't believe for one minute that because the Soviet Union is no longer a communist country (though they still are in a sense) that they no longer are on top of their game in terms of Intel Gathering.
Just like Iran defended herself with releasing videos on Youtube about the boat incident, I would strongly advise all Iranians to carry video cameras for the next few weeks.
The uproar would be unbelievable if it got out on Youtube a video of U.S. Aircraft bombing Iran, and no doubt, with enough pressure, we could call for the impeachment of Bush.
To Liberty!
J.
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To Liberty!
J.
http://jdouglasfisher.blogspot.com
I'll believe it when I see
I'll believe it when I see it.... As of right now, I don't believe it.
No way.
No way.
Sounds plausible...
from another thread..
Payrolls probably shrank by 50,000, according to the median estimate of economists surveyed by Bloomberg News before the Labor Department's April 4 report. The last time the economy lost jobs for at least three consecutive months coincided with the start of the Iraq War in 2003.
http://bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=aXFH4XZOs3Uw...
The timing would be spot-on... and the average American will have justified in thier head spending 5 bucks a gallon for gas as being patriotic to the further movement to stamp out terror... blah.
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this is pretty obvious,
this is pretty obvious, bush-satan are gearing up the police state for the israeli-arab conflict for Obama.
Obama has surrounded himself with anti-israel jews.
Obama Advisor - US
Jews Hinder Peace
http://www.rense.com/general81/odbbm.htm
how many tibet's are there????????????
« on: March 24, 2008, 09:35:41 PM »
http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=32620.0
Russia and Japan form nuclear alliance
http://en.rian.ru/analysis/20080327/102358400.html
Russian intelligence sees U.S. military buildup on Iran border
http://www.infowars.com/?p=1144
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treaty_of_Mutual_Cooperation_an...
the commonwealth of independent states are part of Collective Security Organization (CSO).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shanghai_Cooperation_Organization
lastly never forget about nato
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NATO
its all staged crap, they want to prep 'frontruners' with wars to easily distract people, from drinking fluoridated water.
Iraq, Iran
Rush lied to get us into the Iraq war 3 1/2 minute video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bNws6IG696M 1minute and 10 second video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sm73wOuPL60&feature=related and 935 lies reported here ... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xz9Ew1UBBj0 and now is he liying about Iran to go to war again ??
Liberty is our campaigns gift to the world it is our manifest destiny.
Freedom is a movement who's time has come. Our campaign will lead world wide freedom.
Well
They are talking about how bad things are going in Iraq ....this is a complete turn around from the usual "the surge is working" statement that they normally chant. They are also blaming it on Al Saydr and he is supposedly hiding in....you guessed it IRAN.
I wrote the post on local Air Force base's night exercise
"Hill Air Force base in Northern Utah is on intensive night exercise run. Aerial war on Iran imminent?"
http://mparent7777-1.blogspot.com/2008/03/intensive-airforce...
Original post where it was published, at the bottom in the link.
Here's the excerpt.
Last Night's Flights
by Jenny37415 @ 7:16pm - Thu Mar 27th, 2008
You know, last night, I too was awakened by the strong sounds of the aircrafts. I live less than a mile away from the runway. I am COMPLETELY fine with it awakening me. However, my concern was not “how could they do this late at night”… my concern was how unusual it was to hear so many flights, so intensively, and so late in the evening. [!!!] I am sorry, but I have only been here 10 months. And, since I have lived here, I have not heard that MUCH chaos with flights. I appreciate how I have been educated today regarding the possibilities of training extensively at night. Yet, last night was very alarming to me. I did not have those pieces. What I DID know is that we had all heard the news of the confusion with missiles sent to Taiwan from Hill Air Force Base. Plus, the high concerns of how the pentagon is now having to face this major issue (hopefully, with no repercussions – who is to say that China is not looking for an excuse). I also heard how the Air Force base could be in jeopardy when it is time for them to be considered for renewal. Thus, with the breaking news yesterday and having unsettled feelings regarding it, AND THEN hearing the high number of powerful aircrafts last night....Gosh, dog it, I became more unsettled and scared. Sorry, I am new to living by an Air Force base. Sue me. There was even at one point the most HORRIFIC sound from one jet. So… I turned on the news, concerned with what was going on… and they did not have anything to report, which made me feel more at ease. Obviously, the activity was not noteworthy. However, this morning, I finally did not feel alone when it was reported on the news that others were highly concerned. Once again, I do NOT have a problem with flights at nighttime or during the day. I adore soldiers and the gifts they give our country. I sleep with a soldier every night. I KNOW how they feel and what they fight for…. I am an army wife, husband is away. They can fly all night as far as I am concerned. Yet, with the situations that arose yesterday… Why, yes, I was alarmed. In the world we live in… We can never be so sure. So, those of you who “know it all”…. Thankfully, you were right. This time. I do thank KSL [local Utah tv news station NBC affiliate in SLC] for giving some of us, some peace of mind.
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"It is to be regretted that the rich and powerful too often bend the acts of government to their own selfish purposes... There are no necessary evils in government. Its evils exist only in its abuses." Andrew Jackson
True or Not
Whether this story is true or not, I pray with all my heart, that Almighty God would in His perfect justice, send down fire from heaven and consume all these dispicable, whoremongering, lying, self serving, loathsome murderers in Washington D.C. and that all the earth would know that it was He who has done it.
Repent America and get back on your knees to Him who alone can deliver us from these evil bastards! ( that is a Biblical word by the way )
" In Thee O Lord do I put my trust " ~ Psalm 31:1~
Ain't gonna happen
Pray all you want, the only way those evil traitors to humanity will be punished is if We the People choose to punish them, and they know that. But you stay on your knees and keep praying for "perfect justice". Meanwhile, your fellow human beings are acting to have them removed. If we succede, you thank your God for allowing you to sit around and pray while we do the dirty work, and if we fail, you can pray for forgiveness when the police state locks you away.
I'm not trying to be mean, but if even your god does exist, he only helps those who help themselves.
~I will never again accept the lesser of two evils.~
~I will never again accept the lesser of two evils.~
Do you seriously think..
.. the Elite families and the neocons are going to let us vote our wealth and freedom back?
That they will just up and say, "Oh, we're sorry we didn't think you cared. Here's your wealth and freedom back!".
Hahahahaha! ... right...
Who said anything..
..about voting?
~I will never again accept the lesser of two evils.~
~I will never again accept the lesser of two evils.~
I am a God fearing..
human, and I surely hope that if the Lord has this plan, it happens before our convention, and the November 2008 election because only Ron Paul will be the one, and only Nominee of Republican, and Democratic parties left standing. Our God is Just, and good will prevail. And for those of you that do not believe in God, please continue to believe that good will prevail, and you are on the good side.