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Call Center Feedback Needed

I need feedback on whether there is support for developing a grassroots call center operation/assistance in implementing this proposal.

Calls are far more efficient than door to door and beginning now to establish this capability will allow for growth/refinement of the operation. Also, having the potential to quickly and directly get the RP word out and get feedback on the message and data on it's acceptance will become more important going forward to the primaries and general election. Being able to massively target specific important and/or weaker support areas rapidly would add an important tool for the revolution.

We all know time is very short/it is crunch time. Therefore, it is essential that we get as much bang for our buck/time as possible.

Success in two areas, IMO, leads to the greatest overall return to our effort to get RP nominated/elected our next Potus:

1. Total Fund Raising-Let's face it, this is the way the game is played and we can all see that our most important breakthrough to date has come largely(solely?) due to putting up respectable F R numbers.

2. Gain more new committed/diehard supporters to our cause-i.e. each additional foot soldier for the effort has great potential for a multiplier effect (the "and they told two people" concept). Additionally, any person recruited to the cause with the dedication to help spread the good word has a high probability of contributing money/casting a vote.

How to kill the above two birds with the most efficient stone possible?

My proposal to answer that question follows(in brief):

***The proposal is to initiate an organized but decentralized phone bank operation as soon as the basic details can be agreed upon.******

-Many of us have unlimited domestic long distance phone plans, as such our costs for calling masses of people in Iowa/NH/SC/MI/WY/etc. over the next few months are no greater than under normal circumstances.

-Actively/directly explaining RP's message is more effective than simply encouraging people to "do their own research", helps eliminate the chance that the message is garbled/an incorrect first impression and allows for immediate feedback as to acceptance of the message and data to measure progress.

I have further support for my contention that this proposal is the best way, at this time, to achieve 1. and 2. above and have some specific ideas about how best to implement this proposal but I would first like to ask for feedback from the members of this forum as to whether the concept is worth exploring further. Please take a few moments to consider my proposal and express your view on the matter.

Thanks

gm

PS- If this idea has been proposed before I apologize for not being aware of that fact and request to be directed to the relevant info/contact.



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Clearing Up what seems to be a Misunderstanding

about the concept/proposal. For lack of a better term I have used the term "Call Center" but in fact the idea is a decentralized phone bank/call center of sorts. What this means is each volunteer makes calls from their own home whenever they have time to do so and at their own expense. There would be a means to organize this as a national undertaking in several important aspects from a central location(Website?)including but not limited to:

1. One central location where each volunteer may get a batch/new batch of numbers to call so that the same number does not get repeat calls.

2. The same central point will be used to report back results/lessons learn/feedback from respondents PRO and CON regarding RP and the message of the Revolution.

3 Central point for quidelines/procedures/do and dont/etc.

4. Central point for goals/new target areas/measuring success

5. Central point to register new volunteers for this effort(BTW this is probably the most critical goal of this undertaking is to recruit new volunteers to make calls and Donate)

6-? Other useful functions for the coordinating central point like perhaps doing our own in-house "scientific polling"

"You are a den of vipers and thieves."

I mean to rout you out!

-Just because you are among us, does not make you with us

-The door is wide open, anything can slither in

Pitfalls...

How do you make sure everyone is trained properly then?

For example, we wouldn't be calling to ask who people are voting for - that's invasion of privacy. We would however, call to remind people there is a primary on such and such a date and to please vote for Ron Paul. That's how it's done. Then you get to say your piece and if they don't want to talk further they say thank you goodbye. If they have questions you can direct them to the website or something.

But if it's from out of state, how are all these people going to be familiar with what goes on in NH? NH people can be very crusty!

Jane Aitken, 35-Year Veteran Teacher
Ron Paul 2008 Consultant
GOP Woman of the Year 2009
Founder NH Tea Party Coalition (NOT AFFILIATED WITH ANY FAKE 2009 GROUP)
Founder USPEINetwork @ Yahoo (Nat'l Edu Activism Group)
Board Coalition of NH Taxpayers

Campaign frowns on this

The campaign would rather your efforts be to work directly with them.

A spiffy new mailing is going out to ALL GOP VOTERS in NH soon and then we will follow up with calls, TV ads, etc. We've already had two great radio ads playing day in and out.

Jane Aitken, 35-Year Veteran Teacher
Ron Paul 2008 Consultant
GOP Woman of the Year 2009
Founder NH Tea Party Coalition (NOT AFFILIATED WITH ANY FAKE 2009 GROUP)
Founder USPEINetwork @ Yahoo (Nat'l Edu Activism Group)
Board Coalition of NH Taxpayers

Phone Bank Needed

How can I get in on the Phone Bank -- Call center? I need registered voter list of names, addresses, and numbers. I can Call from here Arizona time between 4pm to 6 pm. Every day. More on weekends.

When is the website going to allow us to sign up for a Call Center?

Romney's people have a call center going in South Carolina for several months already. Hey Campaign ....LETS move it with the CALLING !

COUNT ME IN !!!!

Here is Harpers mag saying Romney has been call for many many months...Oh shoot ! When I go to Huffington fund race website to see who is donating money in Wyoming, Iowa, Michigan its $2,300 every time to Romney, next is $2,300 for McCain, .....& much less.by my count Giuliani is next, ....next getting the small donations are then Thompson, then as prinkle for Ron Paul...and his donations are only like $500.
Have yet to see a Huckabee donation.

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can't be renegade

I can see that they would frown on running a renegade phone bank. But, this should certainly be coordinated directly with the official campaign efforts using their scripts, call sheets, etc.

I am not the least opposed to coordinating w/ the campaign...

however, what I had envisioned was along the lines of a concerned citizen to other (potentially) concerned citizens outreach, at least initially. During this time we could establish the network of concerned citizen volunteers.

What is a concerned citizens to concerned citizens outreach?

For example, I/other volunteer call a listed phone number and say that I am becoming very concerned about the direction the country has been heading and was moved to survey whether other Americans were concerned/what were those concerns. Also I would state I was offering others the opportunity to express any concerns/soliciting the views of others because I have grown skeptical of the established institutions accuracy/competance in measuring and reporting the pulse of the nation(areas/degree of concern) and desired potential solution to address those concerns. From that point any particular direction of the conversation between two private US citizens may evolve from there. The recipient of the call would be advised that others are making similar citizen to citizen outreach calls and we welcome others to join our dialog from one citizen to another. That is we are connecting one citizen to another directly rather than the TOP DOWN system of the powers that be that bombard us with their packaged message then use their TOP DOWN institutions to test if their message is taking hold.

The above is merely a possible way to model this concept, the beauty of the Revolution is we already have many intelligent, creative, talented individuals with diverse skills/backgrounds/perspectives devoted to the cause. I believe this is an avenue that MUST be explored and implemented but I also wish for others to bring their talents to refining a concept I have spent some time pondering.

"You are a den of vipers and thieves."

I mean to rout you out!

-Just because you are among us, does not make you with us

-The door is wide open, anything can slither in

Campaign

The campaign can't have anything to do with money spent outside of themselves. Thus they could not guide you on it either.

And yes there have been some things done that were not good, without going in to detail, so you have to be careful. Otherwise, the campaign just ends up spending time diffusing the blowback.

Jane Aitken, 35-Year Veteran Teacher
Ron Paul 2008 Consultant
GOP Woman of the Year 2009
Founder NH Tea Party Coalition (NOT AFFILIATED WITH ANY FAKE 2009 GROUP)
Founder USPEINetwork @ Yahoo (Nat'l Edu Activism Group)
Board Coalition of NH Taxpayers

Jane

are you with the campaign? I would not want to initiate/do something that the campaign is against/causes them problems/is not permitted by campaign laws/etc. I have to point out though that what I had in mind was an effort completely unconnected/directed/guided/supported to/by the campaign and would in no way seek or accept funding from the campaign. This concept is to be funded(cost of calling) by each individual participant/volunteer and to a large degree is based on the fact that many have calling plans that allow unlimited long distance calling in the US for a flat monthly fee.

Please advise if this concept violates any campaign laws or if the official RP campaign does not want this type of effort.

Thanks,

gm

"You are a den of vipers and thieves."

I mean to rout you out!

-Just because you are among us, does not make you with us

-The door is wide open, anything can slither in

Laws about support methods

There is no law against you doing this separately from the campaign, but I think there are laws to insure that you clearly state so, just like the disclaimers you see on the bottom of indepenently produced flyers etc.

Sometimes things can blow back on us, and we are constantly putting out fires, so whatever you decide to do be careful. Because even if it's unofficial, it still reflects badly on the campaign because most people do not take that into consideration. We've had some problems in the past...the eagerness to help is understandable but since these things are already ongoing with the campaign, why not just join them?

Jane Aitken, 35-Year Veteran Teacher
Ron Paul 2008 Consultant
GOP Woman of the Year 2009
Founder NH Tea Party Coalition (NOT AFFILIATED WITH ANY FAKE 2009 GROUP)
Founder USPEINetwork @ Yahoo (Nat'l Edu Activism Group)
Board Coalition of NH Taxpayers

I don't know what the laws

I don't know what the laws are, or what the campaign initiatives are. But, I like the online idea. I don't see why you couldn't coordinate some sort of website for grass roots people to do canvassing from home, but it may be difficult. I am sure the campaign would want to train and screen all these volunteers before providing their sensitive info...

The campaign pays for voter databases, which help target potential voters. This list includes unlisted numbers, which explains why you may get calls from campaigns even if you are unlisted.

Now, I suppose you could purchase these databases for yourself, and set this all in motion on your own, then donate the data to the campaign. However, I don't know if that's legal or advisable.

Is there a campaign office near you? I'm going to check out the NYC HQ tomorrow, so I'll let you know what they say....

YES.

Some form of call center would be great--- contact me with details.

[i also managed (now only part time) a call center for a small business- i unfortunately can't put their equipment to use, but i can put the skills i learned there to use in helping organize this.

email is the most efficient way to reach me:

jaredlabell@gmail.com



-jared-




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This is so important

We should be organizing precinct operations based upon phone bank collaboration across the country. The GOTV effort needs to be well organized, and the groundwork needs to begin immediately.

This is why I think each local meetup needs to adopt a few NH precincts for phone canvasing and spreading the message. This way each meetup can be in direct contact with troops on the street and keep data synchronized more effectively. It is essential that data is shared with the local precinct operatives or efforts will be wasted.

This is more efficient than traveling to NH, and calls can be made during spare time for those of us who can't take time off to travel.

I have experience in GOTV operations, but most of us are probably new to this. So, we'll need some instruction. Perhaps we should set up a website to inform and organize. Of course, we need some kind of secure signin to prevent infiltrators and impostors.

Election day is 50% of the importance, and 50% of our efforts from here on should be towards GOTV.

Let me know if this is being discussed elsewhere. I hope something like this is already in motion.

Thanks for the Feedback

One question, what does GOTV stand for(hoping that is not a stupid question)?

"You are a den of vipers and thieves."

I mean to rout you out!

-Just because you are among us, does not make you with us

-The door is wide open, anything can slither in

Stands for

Get Out To Vote

Get Out The Vote

It essentially means election day operations. All the canvasing and data collection are for the purpose of using it in "GOTV" operations.

You take the data you have collected throughout the campaign (phone bank and door to door), and use it to make sure all of your "pluses" (supporters) go to the polls.

It's essential that any phone banking is collaborated with GOTV so the people out in the precincts know who is on our side. Also, to make sure we don't call each person 10 times and harass them at their home.

Wikipedia GOTV

i encourage everyone to familiarize yourselves with the activities of a campaign since many of us haven't done this before.

also wiki canvassing

great points

I have been considering this concept for some time and have a basic framework on how it should be implemented. I have specific ideas on avoiding many problems including this one you mention:
"Also, to make sure we don't call each person 10 times and harass them at their home."

I believe it is quite doable and worth doing but I want to find out if there is enough support for the idea to make it worth the effort to set up.

Please assist me in spreading the word to determine interest.

Thanks again.

"You are a den of vipers and thieves."

I mean to rout you out!

-Just because you are among us, does not make you with us

-The door is wide open, anything can slither in

there will be support for this...

this is way too important and in my opinion a better way to spend time helping the campaign than surfing the web to read the latest posts.

people can be encouraged to participate through the web, the the framework must be there first.

It's also essential that it is coordinated with the official campaign.

Is there a way we can discuss your ideas offline through email and get this rolling?

Yes we can do that

but at this stage(I do not intend to drag this out) I would like the discussion of the general concept to discussed in public so others may weigh in and at the same time assist in spreading the word to others that would like to make calls. Does that seem reasonable to you? Do you have any reason why you think this should not be discussed in the general forum? Please let me know, I am open to any and all suggestions/nothing is yet written in stone.

"You are a den of vipers and thieves."

I mean to rout you out!

-Just because you are among us, does not make you with us

-The door is wide open, anything can slither in