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IN HISTORY HAS THERE EVER BEEN A DELEGATE REVOLT?? where the delegates voted for someone other than who they were supposed to??

IF ANYONE KNOW S THIS PLEASE POST!!!We need to find out if this has ever happened before in our republics History!!




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If anyone has any information.... on this more than is below..

pleases post....PERHAPS IF YOU CAN DO RESEARCH...ON OUR NATIONS ...DELEGATE PROCESS...

IT WILL REALLY HELP!!!!

I think I found the answer.....

.found this post on another thread ..think its the answer....
Hello Freedom Lovers

We believe it is possible to win the hearts and minds of enough of the National Delegates and Alternates to the RNC this September, that Ron Paul can still win.

Abraham Lincoln got the nomination starting with only one state behind him in the first round, and in 2004 Missouri, for one, proved that a state's delegates can simply abstain for a round and unbind themselves.

We have started the National DVDs for Delegates Project in order to make this happen this year.

Help us! We still need delegate lists, money for production and postage, and organizers in each state.

Please Donate to or Join with us Now!

In answer to a few of the questions I've seen here:

1. Some people have trouble registering accounts. Check your spam mail box for confirmation emails from our server--for some reason gmail, yahoo, and hotmail don't seem to be relaying our registration response email. You are required to open that email and click a link to confirm that the email listed in your registration really exists.

2. We are improving the donation page. Now we have resumes up for the President and Treasurer, as well as a Project Budget.

3. To see some of who I am and what I've done so far, look at the last link in my signature here--you can actually view the Alaskan DVD for Delegates we sent to all the non-Ron Paul delegates before the Alaskan GOP Convention in March. Note, we only had two weeks to prepare that from when we decided to go for it. We spent 6 weeks writing and refining a script and plan fo rfirst DVD in this project.

4. We need help spreading the word to get the donations we need. Let your meetups know we exist and are working hard to make a difference. If your state had a group that can help with delegate list collection and DVD distribution, let them know.

5. We created a legal framework for two organizations that will allow us to support other federal candidates along the same values, and to work to educate others with ongoing efforts. Part of our budget for this project includes those startup costs of using attorney's and filing papers. But we are built to last and serve this movement in the longer term.

Please reply to me with any questions or problems.

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Evan Cutler,
National DVDs for Delegates Project, Organizer
http://www.dvds4delegates.com/
http://ronpaul.meetup.com/1873/
Alaska Ron Paul Delegates, Organizer
http://ronpaul.meetup.com/1826/
Alaska DVD for Delegates, Organizer
http://www.ronpauldelegates.info/

spread the above article to those who doubt we can win...

it is COMPLETELY WITHIN THE REALM OF SERIOUS POSSIBLY

Digg it ;)

http://digg.com/politics/THE_REVOLUTION_IS_ON_2

The DP is proof that the grassroots support for Ron Paul and his peaceful message of individual liberty is large, real, and not going away!

Shuuu

Jdayh, don't forget there are plants among us. Now, having said that we will make history one way or another. Stand back.......

Turn in a blank ballot...

is my plan. What are they going to do, send me home? Banish me from the party? BRING ON THE BALLOTS!!!!!!!!!!

More links

Here's some more links that have some good insight.
http://www.ronpaulwarroom.com/?p=9511
http://ronpaulchat.net/drpaulwillwin.html

so it seems that abstaining from a vote is the key word here

if anyone has more time and can research this more please post your results...this can give ALOT OF HOPE AND ENERGY TO THE RON PAUL MOVEMENT AT THIS TIME!!!

Delegate revolt

You need to look at the 1860 Republican Convention (Lincoln's nomination).It wasn't a total revolt,but there were several candidates and many abstained in the first vote,which allowed them to vote however they wanted in the second.And some from (Ohio) switched their vote from who they voted on the second vote, to Lincoln on the third vote which swung the election in his favor.(The Lincoln delegates whispered to the Ohio delegates that Lincoln would give them what they were seeking in the candidate they had been voting for).

Interesting-Thanks!

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aha!!! they abstained!!!

this is fantastic...can you provide a link to this knowledge!!!
WE NEED IT RIGHT A WAY!!!

Abstaining

I might have spoken too quick about how Lincoln came by his votes,but there are plenty other instances were delegates have abstained from voting to alter the outcome.In Lincoln's case there were several candidates and they didn't have to abstain,they just had to give one candidate the proper amount of votes.But in the case of the 2008 nomination abstaining can come into play very much.If a large number of the other candidates delegates choose to abstain from voting (McCain,Romney,Guiliani,etc.) and Ron Paul's delegates vote it could throw McCain's numbers below the amount needed and there would have to be a second vote.Then if the Ron Paul delegates do a little bit of Lincoln strategy they could garner enough votes to topple McCain. Here's some links to get a better look at things.
http://www.greatamericanhistory.net/nomination.htm
http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=MDNhNmNhYzJjMzg2ODRmMjI...
http://www.mrlincolnandnewyork.org/inside.asp?ID=83&subjectID=4

well somthing is going on...

http://digg.com/2008_us_elections/John_McCain_VS_John_McCain_9

http://www.campaignforliberty.com/

The DP is proof that the grassroots support for Ron Paul and his peaceful message of individual liberty is large, real, and not going away!

Just wait

till McSame has his Howard Dean moment, the Delegates will be freed.

so if he drops out..say for medical reasons...

then all of his delegates are up for grabs? or can he suggest who to have them vote for? Is there a legal precedent or procedure on this??

and we must be ready!!!!

there are so many projects people can still get involved with!! to elect Dr. Paul!!!

Medicated McCain

Yep the day when he forgets to take his meds he'll go off and be his true self.

Or

he over meds and pisses himself like he is prone to do.

How many of us

are nurses looking for a short term gig?

wow new breaking news on this is now available!!!

I will post it as soon as I figure out all the details!!!

this is FANTASTIC NEWS!!!

Well, I still know the news, but someone mentioned above that

there are trolls and watchers out there, and what I know is highly secretive...so lets just say that the reason I have not given up is due to what I know and that most people don't have a clue about....

suffice to say....this campaign IS NOT OVER ...and that is the best I can do without saying what I know about.....

We're waiting...

C'mon, Jdayh. What's up ?

Jdayh?

What is it?! At least give us a clue!

"I think we are living in a world of lies: lies that don't even know they are lies, because they are the children and grandchildren of lies." ~ Chris Floyd

news about what?

news about what?

Well, I still know the news, but someone mentioned above that..

there are trolls and watchers out there, and what I know is highly secretive...so lets just say that the reason I have not given up is due to what I know and that most people don't have a clue about....

suffice to say....this campaign IS NOT OVER ...and that is the best I can do without saying what I know about.....

---if you knew how many committed delegates there actually were...you would campaign as hard as if he were already nominated.....I MEAN HARD CORE...GO AFTER OBAMA..INDEPENDENTS, AND former Huckster/mccains.

Is'nt that

what happened with Lincoln?

WHY

Why can't the delegates simply vote "no confidence" in John McCain and then let a true "brokered convention" begin....then when the hardcore politicking begins...push for Ron Paul? Of course a little info before hand wouldn't hurt...but just getting the Mitt Romney, Mike Huckabee, etc. supporters to vote "No Confidence" in John McCain ought to be fairly easy and would be an excellent starting point.... If can't get Ron Paul nominated, then anyone is better than McCain.

they shut down the

they shut down the possiblility of a brokered convention because they know the would loose. We have been robbed of our vote-diebold or not!

"The true patriot is motivated by a sense of responsibility, and out of self interest -- for himself, his family, and the future of his country -- to resist government abuse of power. He rejects the notion that patriotism means obedience to the state."Ron

"...the most memorable concern of mankind
is the guts it takes to
face the sunlight again."-Charles Bukowski

We can do it!

.
We believe it is possible to win the hearts and minds of enough of the National Delegates and Alternates to the RNC this September, that Ron Paul can still win.

Abraham Lincoln got the nomination starting with only one state behind him in the first round, and in 2004 Missouri, for one, proved that a state's delegates can simply absstain for a round and unbind themselves.

We have started the National DVDs for Delegates Project in order to make this happen this year.

Help us! We still need delegate lists, money for production and postage, and organizers in each state.

Please Donate to or Join with us Now!

Evan Cutler,
National DVDs for Delegates Project, Organizer
www.dvds4delegates.com and
http://ronpaul.meetup.com/1873/
Alaska Ron Paul Delegates, Organizer
http://ronpaul.meetup.com/1826/
Alaska DVD for Delegates, Organzier
http://www.ronpauldelegates.info

Evan Cutler,
National DVDs for Delegates Project, Organizer -- www.dvds4delegates.com and htttp://ronpaul.meetup.com/1873/
Alaska Ron Paul Delegates, Organizer -- http://ronpaul.meetup.com/1826/
Alaska DVD for Delegates, Organizer -- http://www.ronpa

BTW I wholeheartedly agree with you !!!

I have a couple questions though..

1--have you sent any dvds out to national delegates yet?

2-- did you receive feedback from any of those you sent?

3-- if you haven't, sent any to national delegates yet, what type of results did you get from you state...(ie, did you convert 10%-15%, etc)

4-- and , just to make sure I understand, this target is not for state delegates, its for national delegates.. right??