December 21, 2012

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I know this is off topic so I will not be at all offended if this is ignored or flagged.

It's my personal opinion that electing Ron Paul president is far more important than even the most enthusiastic Paul supporter realizes. I could be wrong of course, but it's just my opinion. I believe that whoever is elected in 2008 will have immense challenges that will increase drastically as each month and year passes. Only Paul is capable of handling these challenges.

The reason I put December 21, 2012 in the subject line is because even if this date does not turn out to be as traumatic as some people speculate, human nature will ensure that some things DO change to make it at least somewhat of a notable date in history. Sort of like the Y2K event. People paid a premium for generators and certain foods even though they didn't need to.

There are many sources that predict terrible times ahead, and quite a few that preidct this date in particular. The reason this is important now is because whoever is elected president in 2008 will preside over this date. And even assuming if nothing happens, the closer we get to this date, the greater the likelihood of things like bank runs, food shortages, etc. Should this date prove to be uneventful, the things people could do leading up to it might very well put this next president into a VERY unique position. Suspending the constitution might very well be the LAST thing people are worried about.

Just my thoughts on this matter. I just think the perception and panic tendencies of some people could force some interesting choices when that date gets close and therefore will require even more the need for a truly Constitutional president like Ron Paul.

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Its the end of the world as

Its the end of the world as we know it...and I feel fine...R.E.M.

You can't get around the

You can't get around the word of God no matter who you elect president.

People Who Don’t Get It - Repost

If you pay attention to such things, the significance of the year 2012 goes hand in hand with moving into a new age. The Age of Aquarius. Jesus was the one to announce the Age of Aquarius:

"a man will meet you carrying an earthen pitcher of
water; follow him into the house where he goes in"
(Luke 22:10; Mark 14:13.)

Aquarius is the water bearer. For those who understand the Bible in conjunction with astrology, the coming of the water bearer is not insignificant. We are moving into the 4th dimension and our old 3D constructs are fading. The veil is being lifted. It is an exciting time to be alive. Also recognized that with all the dark things in the world, there are also equally many proactive positive thing happening. The Ron Paul movement is indeed a reflection of that. I have attached an article which I believe sums up how to best effect the masses during the transition to a more awakened state. We must lead by example, for it is in fact true that we are the ones we’ve been waiting for.

http://www.dailyom.com/articles/2008/13325.html
April 7, 2008
People Who Don’t Get It
Compassion for All

You may be someone who understands the true nature of reality, perceiving deeply that we all emanate from the same source, that we are all essentially one, and that we are here on Earth to love one another. To understand this is to be awakened to the true nature of the self, and this understanding is a blessing. Nevertheless, people who just do not get it are seemingly everywhere and, often, occupy positions of power. It can be frustrating and painful to watch them behave unconsciously.

We all encounter individuals such as this in our families, at work, and in all areas of public life. It is easy to find ourselves feeling intolerant of these people, wishing we could be free of them even though we know that separation from them is an illusion.

It helps sometimes to think of us all as different parts of one psyche. Within our own hearts and minds we have dark places that need healing, just as the heart and mind of the world have their dark places. The health of the whole organism depends upon the relative health of the individuals within it. We increase harmony when we hold on to the light, not allowing it to be clouded by judgment, anger, and fear about those who behave unconsciously. It is easier to accomplish this if we don’t focus on the negative qualities of individuals and instead on how increasing our own light will increase that of the overall picture.

When dealing with people who seem very unconscious, it helps to remember that everyone must find their own way to awakening, and that the experiences they are having are an essential part of their process. Holding them in the glow of our energy may be the best way to awaken theirs. At the same time, we are inspired by their example to look within and shed light on our own unconscious places, sacrificing the urge to judge and surrendering instead to humble self-inquiry.

It is almost midnight here

on the west coast here, so it has to be really late for you guys to the midwest and the east. The bottom line, even though we have a hundred explanations of what is "really going on", for some reason it will be an ever changing story line, and we are all in it together, which makes it fun. Untill tomorrow, we are in this together, let us see where tomorrow takes us.

Quantum theory or String

Quantum theory or String theory might say that all these explanations are possibilities and uncertainty is part of the equation.

"It is like a finger pointing away to the moon, don't concentrate on the finger or you will miss all the heavenly glory." - Bruce Lee

"But, indeed, no private person has a right to complain, by suit in court, on the ground of a breach of the Constitution. The Constitution it is true, is a compact, but he is not a party to it."

better move,,,,,,,,,,

A Bosnian man whose home has been hit an incredible five times by meteorites believes he is being targeted by aliens.

Experts at Belgrade University have confirmed that all the rocks Radivoje Lajic has handed over were meteorites.

They are now investigating local magnetic fields to try and work out what makes the property so attractive to the heavenly bodies.

But Mr Lajic, who has had a steel girder reinforced roof put on the house he owns in the northern village of Gornja Lamovite, has an alternative explanation.

He said: "I am obviously being targeted by extraterrestrials. I don't know what I have done to annoy them but there is no other explanation that makes sense. The chance of being hit by a meteorite is so small that getting hit five times has to be deliberate."

The first meteorite fell on his house in November last year and since then a further four have smashed into his home. The strikes always happen when it is raining heavily, never when there are clear skies.

He said: "I did not know what the strange-looking stones were at first but I have since had them all confirmed as meteorites by experts at Belgrade University.

"I am being targeted by aliens. They are playing games with me. I don't know why they are doing this. When it rains I can't sleep for worrying about another strike."

If voting could really change things,
it would be illegal. Here is hoping for change!

This is BS.

"first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks...will deprive the people of all property" -Thomas Jefferson

government of the people, by the people, for the people
---

no, YOU are BS!

...if you make an accusation, back it up or sit down and shut up and let someone who is making sense speak because you are irrelevent!

its 'cos I owe ya, my young friend...
Rockin' the FREE world in Tennessee since 1957!

"No, YOU'RE b.s.!" "No,

"No, YOU'RE b.s.!" "No, YOU'RE b.s.!" ... and so it goes ...

hey!

i resemble that remark!

its 'cos I owe ya, my young friend...
Rockin' the FREE world in Tennessee since 1957!

LOL ecorob :)

LOL ecorob :)

BTW

Ron Paul 2008! (In case anyone has forgotten while reading this entertaining thread...) Also, does anyone have any interesting links on this topic. Like say: space.com, or NASA's thoughts on this matter?

Sorry, but NASA has no thoughts

on anything other than how to waste billions of dollars with nothing to show for it except a crapload of space junk floating around in outer space and people wearing diapers. I've found out more about Mars from my $25 telescope...

I used to do research on them and the waste and money spent is just mind-boggling. (teflon and memory foam could have been invented here for a lot less) The first chimpanzees and dogs sent off into space were "rewarded" by being sent to cages in vivisection labs while the astronauts were lauded as "heros." Yet another wasteful romanticized zillion $$$ program that could easily be shut down with no one missing a thing.

[hey, off-topic begets off-topic!]

However I do think the Mayans knew something -- they were a helluva lot more intuitive and sharper than NASA -- and the calendar date of 12/21/2012 is going to be very interesting.

Yes, my good men and women!

...just type in Nibiru anywhere in the world and please read and research!

I am sorry. I forget sometimes that some people are just realizing some very important things that our government would rather us not know anything about. Please forgive me.

its 'cos I owe ya, my young friend...
Rockin' the FREE world in Tennessee since 1957!

David Wilcock video is good.

David Wilcock video is good. It was posted a few pages back.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4951448613711060908...

There is a video out there that illustrates the history of the cover-up of Planet X. Basically every time something about Planet X has surfaced in the MSM it's only there for a very short time. Some editors have actually said, "Oops, sorry that was a mistake."

My first real look into most of this stuff started with Zecharia Sitchin and Lloyd Pye.

http://www.sitchin.com/
http://www.lloydpye.com/

All depends on what angle you want or how far down the rabbit hole you wanna look. You can YouTube or Google Planet X, Nibiru, Nephilum, Annunaki, Igigi, 2012, Mayan Prophecy, or the two gentlemen I mentioned previously and it should keep anyone not familiar with Planet X phenomenon busy for days.

"It is like a finger pointing away to the moon, don't concentrate on the finger or you will miss all the heavenly glory." - Bruce Lee

"But, indeed, no private person has a right to complain, by suit in court, on the ground of a breach of the Constitution. The Constitution it is true, is a compact, but he is not a party to it."

Do

You have any knowledge of where I may be able to find a torrent for this? Some of the video is missing... Both Youtube and google...

Apologizes, I do not know.

Apologizes, I do not know. Try adding part1 to the video title and search it. You should be able to find the collection in series. The video locked up on me and I just reloaded and skipped to were it locked.

"It is like a finger pointing away to the moon, don't concentrate on the finger or you will miss all the heavenly glory." - Bruce Lee

"But, indeed, no private person has a right to complain, by suit in court, on the ground of a breach of the Constitution. The Constitution it is true, is a compact, but he is not a party to it."

Patrick Geryl has 3 books on 2012.

He studied and broke the pyramid codes at Mayan sites. He used the mathematical codes, the history (written on walls) of Atlantis, plus astrology and astronomy---in other words a multidisciplinary approach---to PROVE (at least to himself and anyone who gets the math codes he presents) that the
Mayans AND EGYPTIANS (both descendants of Atlantis) were trying to warn us of a pole shift coming Dec. 21, 2012. He gives evidence that the Atlantians
were able to calculate when THEIR OWN pole shift would happen, prepared well with boats and food, escaped, and decided to warn future generations.

They knew language would change, books would be destroyed, etc, over the next 11,000 years (the cycle). That is why they decided to put their warning in something indestructible: pyramids!

Anyhow reading his books set me free in a way. I no longer worry about having money to retire!
To survive a pole shift you have to have an underground place....the global elite do.....I wonder how this will all unfold. We certainly picked an interesting time to (re)incarnate!

I've read Geryl...

I think he has a workable theory, sorta.. he just has the timeline all wrong. He also likes leaving things out to support his theory... It is a classic mistake that most historians make to think that the first civilizations were a mere 6-7 thousand years ago. The Hopi tell that they were just re-emerging from killing themselves into barbarianism the time before. Nope, you need to go back further... look at some of the early Persian religions... they give some clues.

How long did it actually take people to go from a base society to our current tech level? 700 years or so? Yet everyone just doesn't think of that whole 20,000 year period 14,000 years ago where supposedly nothing happened...lol

~Live life to its fullest, with an open heart, open arms and most important... an open mind~

alot of eco- and

alot of eco- and paleogeological evidence within these books.

heed the ways of the hopi!!!!!

Maybe this will be another

section of the Zeitgeist movie in 20 years.

sheesh

'Live for yourself, there's no one else more worth living for,
Begging hands and bleeding hearts
Will only cry out for more...'

'Live for yourself, there's no one else more worth living for,
Begging hands and bleeding hearts
Will only cry out for more...'

December 12, 2012 is just a day in the year

There is no way to determine the date of Christ's coming. Jesus said only the Heavenly Father knew the exact day. Our job as believers - followers of Christ - is to "occupy til I come" - Luke 19:13 (KJV). Let us pray for great servant leaders to be elected, wisdom to know who they are, and work as hard as we can for those great servant leaders who the Lord reveals when they seek election.

Anyone who wants to become a follower of Jesus need only confess and repent of sin and admit their need for a Savior and to know that Jesus took your place and the punishment for your sins. Feel free to email me at eesjresquire@netscape.net for more details.

Sandy

Sandy Sanders
www.varight.com

Jesus was the one to announce the Age of Aquarius:

"a man will meet you carrying an earthen pitcher of
water; follow him into the house where he goes in"
(Luke 22:10; Mark 14:13.)

another version is

jesus told Peter and John to go and prepare the passover that they might eat. They in turn asked him "where wilt thou that we prepare?"

His response was Luke 22:10-13 To go into the city and they would meet a man bearing a pitcher of water (which was rare to see a MAN carry a pitcher, as women carried pitchers, men carried wine flasks. Jesus knew he would be there and his house would have the place to be prepared for the passover)

They were to enter the house and relate to the goodman of the house that the Master saith unto thee, "Where is the guestchamber, where I shall eat the passover with my disciples?" Jesus went on to say that the owner of the house would show them an upper room. There ,they were to make ready the passover...the last passover, the lords supper... He told the prophecy what would come to pass. His betrayal, his death, his reserection..... Prophecy again fulfilled

humm.

You seem to have stumbled into the wrong post. Of course it's not in the bible. It is based on a Sumerian dating system of the cosmos.

Just a few thousand years before Christ's time is all.

We can all say what needs to be done, but who here lead by example today?

Find out if you have a local militia - http://www.uaff.us/

Real Patriots for 9/11 truth -- http://patriotsquestion911.com/

You're off by a year

.
The stuff is supposed to hit the fan in 2011, so by 2012 things will either be fantastic... or over.

Before you start posting, a little research might profit you. You can start with Carl Josef Calleman's The Mayan Calendar and the Transformation of Consciousness. It is probably the best book on the subject.

We are, according to the Mayan Calendar, just now in the 5th night, a period that will last another 3 years, leading up to 2012. Calleman is not alone in his interpretation - lots of people are saying that we (all of us) are heading into a very rocky time that will culminate in 2011.

After that.. who knows? I think we'll be fine eventually.

hmmm

"Before you start posting, a little research might profit you. "

A little research, or should we research only who you understand and study?

That response seems a little harsh don't you think?

One thing I'd like to add to

One thing I'd like to add to this that is different from all other doomsday predictions. Y2k and the like were all a count down to the zero hour with a calm before the storm. When the clock strikes midnight or that magic hour then the truth will be revealed!!! Well unlike though story's and predictions. Planet X is happening right now, if at all. There is no instant gratification no countdown to zero hour. Well there is, but not one that will matter if Planet X is happening. There will be no calm before the storm and if there is then this is it. Long before 12/12/12 the truth about Planet X will/should already be revealed with turbulent planetary changes which would begin well before 2012 and most likely only peeking when the 2012 zero hour occurs. If Planet X is happening we'll all have at least a year to panic together and say our "I told you so's". lol

"It is like a finger pointing away to the moon, don't concentrate on the finger or you will miss all the heavenly glory." - Bruce Lee

"But, indeed, no private person has a right to complain, by suit in court, on the ground of a breach of the Constitution. The Constitution it is true, is a compact, but he is not a party to it."

Planet X

.
Long ago a woman named Nancy Lieder said that Planet X would pass near enough to earth to cause a variety of cosmic disturbances, likely to end life on earth. She even set a date: May 2003. I heard her on Coast to Coast AM with George Noory and she was quite insistent. Never happened, obviously.

However, other scientists have come forward and have said, yes there is a Planet X, but it's so far out that it poses no risk.

And yes, Y2K was a big fizzle. You may remember Gary North, who also appeared on the Art Bell show. Gary had moved to the moutains, had his own source of power, water, and lots of food. Obviously, that was another fizzle.

But I think the Mayan calendar stuff has merit. If you read the Calleman book, he makes a good and strong case for it's validity.